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Title: NEW POLL: 60% OF REPUBLICANS WILL NOT VOTE IN 2016 IF BUSH IS THE NOMINEE
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Game Changer PAC
URL Source: http://gamechangerpac.com/new-poll- ... n-2016-if-bush-is-the-nominee/
Published: May 9, 2015
Author: Timothy Core
Post Date: 2015-05-09 11:13:52 by Hondo68
Keywords: None
Views: 16854
Comments: 65
In a poll by Game Changer PAC, surveying 2,226 likely Republican voters, 59.66% of respondents said that if Jeb Bush ends up as the 2016 Republican Presidential Nominee… they won’t vote at all in the 2016 General Election. The poll shows that Republican voters are tired of holding their noses and will no longer vote in lock-step with the party. Bush is seen as a fundraising powerhouse and is on track to raise over 100 million dollars by the end of May. This fact is causing the establishment wing of the Republican party to salivate more than Pavlov’s Dogs in a fire drill. The sad fact is that throughout recent history BOTH major parties have decided which perspective nominees will be endorsed by the full weight of their parties primarily on fundraising successes. The Republican party has been dealing with push-back from this model for the last few years with the rise of the Tea Party- and has seen some positive results and an energized base- though this is not the party’s doing or desire. The Democrat party has maintained this model and used the rise of the Tea Party as fodder for negative campaign ads. With some candidates and strategists even going so far as to brand Republican candidates with ZERO tea party support as “Tea Partiers” or “Tea Baggers” in the hopes that by branding them in that way the Democrat’s low-information segment will become energized due to a stigma that has been unfairly attached to all members of the Tea Party due to the actions of a few of them. While it is still too early to tell if the establishment wings of both parties will get the message that simply running candidates that share 90% of the same views, just with a different letter behind their name, doesn’t work anymore. The American people are doing their best to try to get that message across. However, when you listen to most pundits, the race has already been fought. Most have declared that in the 2016 general election Jeb Bush will be pitted against Hillary Clinton and that Clinton will come out ahead, ultimately becoming the 45th President of the United States. But in reality we still have no clue who the nominees will be much less the next President. Currently there are over 300 people who have filed with the FEC to run for President in 2016, with more added all the time. One thing is for sure though: If Jeb Bush is the Republican Presidential Nominee, whoever the Democrat Presidential Nominee is will be the next President. A large number of people have accused Game Changer PAC of lying about the results, Of making the whole thing up as a hit piece against Jeb Bush, Of not using a random sample for our poll, et cetera ad nauseam. This update is to clarify some of those misconceptions. Jerry Brown (Democratic incumbent) We understand that this is not a favorable poll result for Jeb Bush. We understand why so many have reservations about believing the results. However, those were the results. Thank you for reading. For those of you that are complaining about the Margin of Error. We calculated margin of error using the z*-Value for 95% confidence (standard) which is 1.96 we used the proper equation of : Z√P(1-P)/n=1.96√(0.5966)(.4034)/2226 =(1.96)(0.010397) = 0.02037812 Which means a 2% margin of error
Poster Comment: Even more despised than Willie-Mitt?
UPDATE (5/8/2015):
Neel Kashkari (“Establishment” Republican candidate)
Tim Donnelly (“Tea Party” Republican candidate)
Kashkari was seen by many Tea Party Republicans as more liberal than Brown due to his management of the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP). Donnelly was a founding member of the “Minute Men” civilian border patrol and an unabashed right winger. Kashkari was a late entry, to replace Able Maldonado who dropped out, with a lot of money behind him.
Because of Kashkari’s perceived liberalism many far right Republicans publicly stated that they would skip the General Election if Donnelly wasn’t the nominee -Since write-ins aren’t allowed in partisan General Elections in California due to Prop 14.
Kashkari went on to beat Donnelly in the Primary and then those who said that they wouldn’t vote in the general, didn’t. The 2014 California Gubernatorial General Election had a turnout rate of 21.4% which was not only a record low but less than half of the turn out seen in the 2010 midterms.UPDATE 2 (5/8/15)
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#25. To: Vicomte13 (#9)
It's too early to tell. Lots of people "look good" in theory,but then fall apart once they start campaigning and start compromising their principles.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
You could always vote for me. That way I would get two votes.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
What is your political stand on snapping turtles
Yeah, wingnuts who believe in things like Constitutional republics vs. oligarchies run by false messiahs (whether they be of the R or D variety). Imagine that. Both branches of the ruling party have their wingnuts. But since the natural flow of self governance is to move ever leftward and to devolve into socialism, statism and then finally dictatorship, the D branch wingnuts have an advantage. Their "stuff" gets done. So it doesn't matter whether they back an Obozo, a Xlinton, a Sanders or a Warren. Just as sure as water finds its level, the fedgov is going to devolve faster and faster. So the only disappointment the D wingnuts ever experience is thinking their person didn't "go far enough". The R branch wingnuts, however, are constanty lied to by those who pander to them. Because those wingnuts not only want gov't to stop growning and stop taking away freedoms, but they actually want it to go back to some semblance of abiding by the Constitution. Something that's never, ever going to happen. So THIS wingnut - who's finally woken up to the fact that it doesn't matter whether a D or an R is dictator - has decided not to play anymore.
You could have saved yourself a lot of keystrokes by just admitting you're politically irrelevant. Is that whole I'll-get-even-with-them-all-by-not-voting thing really working out so well for you? Keeps you warm at night? Voting may be almost pointless but not voting is complete irrelevance.
I am, and I know it. You are too, but apparently you do not know it. How's that 2014 mid term working out for you? Boy that Boehner and McConnell - really kicking Zero's butt, eh?
I will never vote for Bush. He is a piece of shit. People who vote for Bush are pieces of shit.
Nope. Perry isn't that great. Walker changed his position on immigration.
I would vote for Rand if he gets the nomination.
How do you reconcile your vote for a popular GOP candidate a few years back? Let's jerk your memory into the forefront of thought: Johnny McCain.
All Jeb will do is split the non KILLARY voters. He stands no chance.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
I'm not dumb enough to believe that Obama is as bad as McCain. You just complain no matter what. That is apparently your purpose on earth.
Who are you looking at now?
I would vote for Rand if he gets the nomination. Same here....of course.
Ted Cruz. Then Rand Paul. Maybe Walker. No Bush No Christie No Huckabee Maybe just Maybe Perry
Every summer a pair of box turtles mate in my back
There is an "apparent" disconnect about principles and agreement of observed contemporary standards in society. You believe in this silly society called "America" and you believe you can change it. I do not believe America can be fixed. You don't realize what you are doing on this forum; and you are the supreme moderator.
Change their lives around; give 'em a shoe.
I am with you on the "no" list. I have always held open to Cruz. Perry doesn't "show" well for the cameras, but he has a great accomplishment record....and he was a governor. I would like to see him as VP, at least. Edit: I forgot to mention Rand Paul. Oh....never mind.
In 2011, this bastard was kicked out of the GOP nomination: Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s support for a law allowing illegal immigrants in Texas to pay in-state tuition is emerging as a key vulnerability as he seeks to maintain his frontrunner status in the Republican presidential race. At Thursday’s GOP debate in Florida, Perry defended his support for the Texas DREAM Act by calling critics of the law insensitive. “If you say that we should not educate children who have come into our state for no other reason than they have been brought there by no fault of their own, I don’t think you have a heart,” Perry said.
Yes. As most of us knew all along, you are a dumb fuck. It isn't your fault but most responsible people ask: why do we pay for this abortion called, "Gatlin."
I am against strongly against abortion, but I would have easily made an exception in your case.
You have so many cases on your shoulders, I'm but a small fry. You are a liar and a thief.
Can't never could.
Yeah, especially if you do not want to be the one to lock & load and lead the charge. What do you suggest?
Si vis pacem, para bellum
That is pretty much where I am.
Si vis pacem, para bellum
Are you voting?
To: buckeroo I am against strongly against abortion, but I would have easily made an exception in your case. His mother should have ate his bones before they hardened.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
10 years shorter than it takes for the male to orgasm.
потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Of course, I always do.
Si vis pacem, para bellum
Yes,Poppy. The Dims started selling us out to the communists under Roosevelt,and it was Poppy that sold us out to the Nazi.s And to think we all grew up thinking the Nazi's had lost WW-2! You should go all the way back in tyme and refreshyour recollection for the study of Abe Lincoln, the first US President of GOP creation. You must be older than me. Lincoln was long dead before I ever voted for anybody. Granted,he was a truly corrupt and evil bastard,also.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
That depends. Are we talking pastel turtles,or day-glo turtles?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
That is unfair to pieces of shit. Some are smarter than the typical Bush voter.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
But the question is - will it be a change for the better?
If they do vote for any among the collection of empty-headed jackasses, will it make any difference?
Ahh yes - I can see from where your confusion arises!
Either that,or done more. Tough call.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
The Turtles - September 1965.
Eastern painted turtle: Box Turtle:
A lot of conspiracy theories have it that the Bush wing tried to kill Reagan via a brainwashed Bush family freind.
Will Walker do? Paul? Perry? Is there somebody else viable out there who seriously has any shot that I'm forgetting.
#26. To: Chuck_Wagon (#11)
So who the heck am I supposed to vote for?
#27. To: sneakypete (#26)
You could always vote for me.
versus painted turtles?
#28. To: Chuck_Wagon (#27)
#29. To: TooConservative (#20)
the various wingnuts
#30. To: Rufus T Firefly (#29)
So THIS wingnut - who's finally woken up to the fact that it doesn't matter whether a D or an R is dictator - has decided not to play anymore.
#31. To: TooConservative (#30)
You could have saved yourself a lot of keystrokes by just admitting you're politically irrelevant.
Is that whole I'll-get-even-with-them-all-by-not-voting thing really working out so well for you? Keeps you warm at night?
Voting may be almost pointless but not voting is complete irrelevance.
Yeah, they had voting in the old USSR, too.
#32. To: Gatlin (#1)
#33. To: Gatlin (#10)
That might not be a bad ticket, actually: Walker/Perry; Wisconsin and Texas. Yep.
#34. To: Chuck_Wagon (#11)
and I won't vote for Rand.
#35. To: A K A Stone, Gatlin (#32)
I will never vote for Bush. He is a piece of shit. People who vote for Bush are pieces of shit.
#36. To: A K A Stone (#34)
#37. To: buckeroo (#35)
How do you reconcile your vote for a popular GOP candidate a few years back? Let's jerk your memory into the forefront of thought: Johnny McCain.
#38. To: A K A Stone (#33)
#39. To: A K A Stone, Chuck_Wagon (#34)
and I won't vote for Rand.
#40. To: Gatlin (#38)
#41. To: buckeroo (#28)
...Turtle Sex...
yard under the azalea bushes. I'm convinced it's
the same pair. The AVERAGE lifespan of the things
is 50 years.
#42. To: A K A Stone (#37)
You just complain no matter what.
#43. To: Chuck_Wagon (#41)
#44. To: A K A Stone (#40)
(Edited)
#45. To: Gatlin (#44)
Perry doesn't "show" well for the cameras, but he has a great accomplishment record....and he was a governor. I would like to see him as VP, at least.
By Sandhya Somashekhar and Perry Bacon Jr. September 23, 2011
#46. To: Gatlin (#44)
#47. To: buckeroo (#46)
#48. To: Gatlin (#47)
I am against strongly against abortion, but I would have easily made an exception in your case.
#49. To: buckeroo (#42)
You believe in this silly society called "America" and you believe you can change it. I do not believe America can be fixed.
#50. To: buckeroo (#19)
Waiting for "TSHTF" seems a bit boring to me
#51. To: buckeroo (#42)
" I do not believe America can be fixed. "
#52. To: Stoner (#51)
#53. To: Gatlin (#47)
#54. To: Chuck_Wagon (#41)
...Turtle Sex... Every summer a pair of box turtles mate in my back yard under the azalea bushes. I'm convinced it's the same pair. The AVERAGE lifespan of the things is 50 years.
#55. To: buckeroo (#52)
" Are you voting? "
#56. To: buckeroo (#24)
Poppy?
#57. To: Chuck_Wagon (#27)
What is your political stand on snapping turtles versus painted turtles?
#58. To: A K A Stone (#32)
People who vote for Bush are pieces of shit.
#59. To: buckeroo (#43)
...Change their lives around; give 'em a shoe....
Or will it just lead to turtle-divorce?
Hey - If we propose meddle with sex-lives in the wild
kingdom - these questions need to be asked...
#60. To: hondo68 (#0)
(Edited)
60% OF REPUBLICANS WILL NOT VOTE IN 2016 IF BUSH IS THE NOMINEE
#61. To: sneakypete (#57)
...day-glo turtles?
You should have skipped the hallucinogens all those years ago!
But I have to admit that the music was pretty good! 
#62. To: Chuck_Wagon (#61)
You should have skipped the hallucinogens all those years ago!
#63. To: sneakypete (#62)
Whoa. I was only a year and a half old. Almost.
#64. To: sneakypete (#62)
#65. To: TooConservative, Vicomte13, redleghunter (#20)
It's rare that the various wingnuts can unite to prevent the party elite from imposing a nominee. Reagan was a notable exception where the party base imposed a candidate on the GOP that they didn't want. The party elite wanted a Bush back in 1980, not Reagan.
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