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Title: Karl Rove surrenders to ObamaCare
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-bl ... l-rove-surrenders-to-obamacare
Published: May 8, 2015
Author: Brent Budowsky
Post Date: 2015-05-08 23:09:57 by out damned spot
Keywords: Rove, Obamacare, sell out
Views: 6285
Comments: 32

It is with great pleasure that I rise in praise of Karl Rove, who now largely agrees with me that Republicans should place into the dustbin their bogus proposal to repeal ObamaCare.

In my recent column in The Hill, "The 'Clinton Cash' con," I suggested that the new book by Peter Schweizer proves absolutely nothing on the matter of whether Hillary Clinton committed any wrongdoing, and it is a con to suggest or imply otherwise. I add today a discussion of another con game by Republicans, the suggestion that they will repeal ObamaCare, which they know they will not do, but pretend they will to give red meat to the right-wing base; a promise they know they will not keep.

And now comes Rove, on the op-ed page of The Wall Street Journal and the other places he inhabits, telling Republicans (correctly) that their pledge to repeal ObamaCare is a bad and politically stupid idea. Rove's acknowledges (correctly) that it will not be repealed, and warns Republicans (correctly) they could pay a heavy price with voters if the Supreme Court overturns ObamaCare and Republicans have to face endless news stories about the bad things that happen to Americans if ObamaCare is overturned or repealed and Republicans have nothing to offer instead (which they don't).

I believe Chief Justice John Roberts and a Supreme Court majority will uphold ObamaCare in its upcoming and monumental decision. I believe the court will agree with me that the legislative intent of the law is clear, that all exchanges should receive subsidies, and that they will agree with me that the havoc to healthcare and the painful damage to Americans from a decision against ObamaCare, or repeal of ObamaCare, would be a disaster.

Rove's surrender to ObamaCare, advising Republicans against pretending they would repeal ObamaCare, is politically very wise. Rove's fear about what happens to Republicans if the court does overturn ObamaCare provisions and the world witnesses horror stories of Americans being hurt because of Republican anti-ObamaCare politics — without any Republican policy to undo the damage — is politically brilliant.

Imagine daily stories on television about very ill Americans being stripped of healthcare, about children losing their insurance because they would no longer be covered by their parent's policies, about Americans with preexisting conditions being thrown to the insurance wolves without ObamaCare, and about huge insurance premium increases that would punish many millions of Americans because of the Republican war against ObamaCare.

When the first American dies because of the loss of ObamaCare, the world will witness the mother of all Republican and conservative cons: the death panels were not caused by ObamaCare; they were prevented by ObamaCare, and without ObamaCare, people will die and voters will blame Republicans for the real equivalent of death panels, created by the Republicans in their war against ObamaCare.

For once, Rove is right: Republicans should surrender in their war to repeal ObamaCare, and if they do not, Democrats will win big and Republicans will lose big — no matter how the Supreme Court decides.

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#1. To: out damned spot (#0) (Edited)

Karl Rove surrenders to ObamaCare

Rove, and those like him, haven't surrendered anything. To surrender you must have been part of an opposing force. Rove, and others, have never been a part of any opposition. What he has always represented is a catch-up program to see how well he can adopt measures that will buy votes in a progressively parasitic indolent decaying society that will not provide for it's self, but expects to receive everything through a process of Marxist wealth distribution.

Socialists come up with an idea, and he jumps on their bandwagon. It's affirmative action for a nation of clucks.

rlk  posted on  2015-05-09   2:36:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: rlk (#1)

Obamacare was created because the private sector proved itself incapable of providing affordable health care.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-05-09   5:54:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Willie Green (#2)

"Obamacare was created because the private sector proved itself incapable of providing affordable health care."

The private sector was doing just fine until Congress passed the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA) in 1986, forcing hospitals to treat patients irregardless of their ability to pay.

In order to compensate for that free care, hospitals jacked up the rates on those who could pay. Or they would have gone bankrupt.

More and more people decided they didn't need to pay for health insurance once they realized medical treatment was free. Hell, even people who qualified for free Medicaid weren't signing up.

So Obama's solution was to force everyone to buy health insurance, hoping the insurance companies would be so grateful for the increased business that they'd lower their rates.

Hah! They raised them.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-05-09   8:42:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: misterwhite (#6)

The private sector was doing just fine until Congress passed the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA) in 1986, forcing hospitals to treat patients irregardless of their ability to pay.

What were hospitals doing before EMTALA?
Tossing patients out in the gutter to die if they couldn't afford emergency treatment?

That's not a civilized solution for the wealthiest nation on the face of the planet.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-05-09   9:16:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Willie Green (#7)

"What were hospitals doing before EMTALA?" "Tossing patients out in the gutter to die if they couldn't afford emergency treatment?"

Have you read stories about that happening? Was that a huge scandal at the time? Seems that it would be, don't you think?

Yet we heard nothing. Why would you even bring that up?

Before 1986, people treated health care they way they treated any other service. They would no more demand free medical care than they would demand a free oil change. They bought insurance or paid cash. It's called "personal responsibility".

"That's not a civilized solution for the wealthiest nation on the face of the planet."

I see. But it is civilized to take my hard-earned money and give it to someone else?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-05-09   9:26:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: misterwhite (#8)

Have you read stories about that happening? Was that a huge scandal at the time? Seems that it would be, don't you think?
Yet we heard nothing. Why would you even bring that up?

Because despite your revisionist denial, "patient dumping" of indigent & uninsured patients was indeed a scandalous practice prior to enactment of EMTALA.

But it is civilized to take my hard-earned money and give it to someone else?

It's no different than any other insurance policy that you pay into more than you collect. That's how insurance works.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-05-09   9:53:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Willie Green (#9)

Because despite your revisionist denial, "patient dumping" of indigent & uninsured patients was indeed a scandalous practice prior to enactment of EMTALA.

Well, YOUR compassion is costing ME money.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-05-10   8:57:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: misterwhite (#23)

Well as Leonard Nimoy used to say: "Live long and prosper!"

Willie Green  posted on  2015-05-10   10:00:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Willie Green (#24)

"Well as Leonard Nimoy used to say: "Live long and prosper!"

Yeah. That didn't cost him anything to say it.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-05-10   10:25:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: misterwhite (#25)

Yeah. That didn't cost him anything to say it.

Well if you don't like Obamacare, then you should be in favor of Single Payer Universal Health Care for everybody. The system of private insurance companies that we have now is horribly inefficient. Not only is each private company a separate and distinctive non-productive bureaucracy, but each has to contend with a different set of rules and regulations for each state that it operates in.
But a National, Single Payer System can enjoy tremendous economies of scale by doing away with all that bureacratic and often conflicting red tape and providine a single, nationwide, standardized system for everybody! And best of all, absolutely NONE of your insurance premium gets sucked away as "profits" for rich people who can already afford medical care without buying insurance anyway.

Do you think the Koch Brothers or Sheldon Adelson buy health care insurance?
Hell no... of course not...
If any of those rich old coots has a medical emergency, they just buy the whole goddam hospital and threaten to lay everybody off if they don't get the best treatment available free of charge.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-05-10   10:51:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Willie Green (#26)

"But a National, Single Payer System can enjoy tremendous economies of scale ..."

Then vote for Hillary. That's what she proposed when she was First Lady (HillaryCare). Of course, her plan crashed and burned so bad it made the Hindenburg look like a bumpy landing. Nobody wanted it. Except you, obviously.

"And best of all, absolutely NONE of your insurance premium gets sucked away as "profits" for rich people"

True. All the premiums would go into the general fund -- like Social Security -- then be sucked away by the politicians and spent on something else.

At some point the healthcare system will be declared "broke", and services will need to be cut and premiums raised. And federal government "death panels" will kill more people than pre- EMTALA emergency room refusals.

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