Title: Love Source:
[None] URL Source:[None] Published:May 7, 2015 Author:A K A Stone Post Date:2015-05-07 20:54:34 by A K A Stone Keywords:None Views:24130 Comments:69
Well .. let me tell ya 'bout love. The Christians hate the Jews for murdering Jesus Christ & the Jews hate the Muslims & the Muslims hate the Christians. Oh and the Christians hate the Muslims and the Jews hate the Christians. And the Muslims hate the Jews. And the world is on the brink of WW3 because everyone is just "lovey-dovey."
Basically there isn't much love beyond American politicians running for President or any other federal, state or local office giving all of us: the best days of our lives, or so they say as our taxes keep climbing while the fed prints all the money they want to cover the TRILLIONS of debt that has done nothing.
Well .. let me tell ya 'bout love. The Christians hate the Jews for murdering Jesus Christ & the Jews hate the Muslims & the Muslims hate the Christians. Oh and the Christians hate the Muslims and the Jews hate the Christians. And the Muslims hate the Jews. And the world is on the brink of WW3 because everyone is just "lovey-dovey."
Not entirely accurate. There are some self proclaimed Christians who blame the Jews for Christ's sentence and death. But those that do so should read the part where Christ forgives them for those actions. Jesus Christ on the cross put an end to any hatred or animosity by saying those Words. Christians should follow His example. Jesus Christ put into action the words He spoke. So should those who follow Him.
The guy you mention is long gone & ain't comin' back. All these other, "self-proclaimed Christians" you discuss follow the example as they see fit; it varies all over the map of individual interpretations.
#25. To: tpaine, rlk, soso, buckeroo, redleghunter (#24)(Edited)
One way to avoid the above is to look at what the scriptures say. -- redleghunter
"Not this sh*t again? Pa................leazzzzzzzzzze." - soso
"One of the few times I have ever agreed with you on anything." --- rlk
"That makes three of us,--- a trinity of doubting Thomas's." - tpaine
Do you all three FOUR doubt:
1) The veracity of "authority" that are the Words and actions of Jesus Christ and God?
2) The veracity of the authority that *is* the entire Holy Bible? Either/or the Old Testament/New Testament?
3) The veracity of entire precept and acceptance that *any* "word of God" would be inspired or "transcribed" via God's spirit *to* man?
Or...
4)The Creator of the Universe -- God -- is incapable of doing so.
5) "God? I see no evidence He even exists. We live. We die. Period. There is no rhyme or reason or purpose to our existence."
So what is the nature of the disbelief or disconnect here with the Bible or God?
Is it merely a matter of rejecting "God," period? Have "hypocritical" Christians or "hateful" Christians deterred you from seeking faith? God's Word is all that should matter to you...and personal relationship.
John 10:27 "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me"
Matthew 7:7-8 "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened."
#30. To: Liberator, rlk, buckeroo, redleghunter (#25)
Do you all three FOUR doubt:
The thing I doubt is the fidelity of man scribes translating the Word Of God into mutilpe languages from a language of over two thousand years old and several hundread years removed (thousands in the case of the OT) from the events being described. God is perfect, man is not.
SO not this sh*t again. We have had lenghty discussions about this on a number of different threads here. So I will just say again, God is perfect, man is flawed. God is perfect, chruches are flawed. God is perfect, man organized and administered relions are flawed.
And let me make this perfectly clear to you, I have an abiding belief in God and Jesus. I do not have any belief in any man that claims to know the mind of God or knows the one true understanding of God's words. Over and out for me on this subject. You will find a sympatheic ear in redleghunter.
The thing I doubt is the fidelity of man scribes translating the Word Of God into mutilpe languages from a language of over two thousand years old and several hundread years removed (thousands in the case of the OT) from the events being described. God is perfect, man is not.
And let me make this perfectly clear to you, I have an abiding belief in God and Jesus.
Thanks for the honest, candid assessment and explanation.
In short it's the fidelity and survivability of translation of the events and of THE word of God over the many centuries that gives you pause...
Can you accept the notion that absolute nothing is impossible for God -- and everything *possible*? Then why harbor doubts of a Scripture inspired from God Himself and so transcribed exactly as He intended it be preserved? Yes, man is a liar, imperfect, and flawed. Yet man transcribed the Word. Perfectly. Moreover, as far as you or anyone can tell from scripture, does it appear that God is a liar? That is the true test of "fidelity."
You concede that you are a Believer. Despite your reservations over "fidelity" issues, there must be a convincing measure of intellectual and spiritual surety of faith within your own heart that the Gospel IS the word of God.
#34. To: Liberator, rlk, buckeroo, redleghunter (#31)
In short it's the fidelity and survivability of translation of the events and of THE word of God over the many centuries that gives you pause...
Let's try this one more time.
In short it's the fidelity and survivability of translationS of the events pertaining to man's representation of the word of God that gives me pause.
Languages from 2,000+ years ago are either dead or do not have the same meaning of words and idioms, etc. as they do today or 500 years ago or 1,000 years ago or 1,500 years ago. Every language changes over time. Just look at the English language as spoken and written in the U.S. over the past 200 years, even just 50 years (e.g. - the word gay used to mean happy, light hearted). Why do you think that there are so many versions of the NT and so many sects of Chrisianity that think that it they and only they have the true understanding of God's words?
I hope this clarifies my position for you. I really do not want to rehash this over and over again.
