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Title: Are the crew members of 1986 Space Shuttle Challenger still alive?
Source: Fellowship of The Minds
URL Source: http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/201 ... huttle-challenger-still-alive/
Published: May 1, 2015
Author: Dr. Eowyn
Post Date: 2015-05-01 14:25:55 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 6304
Comments: 13

Friends, wrap your head with duct tape (to prevent it from exploding). It’s Down-the-Rabbit-Hole time!

rabbit hole

If you’re age 40 years or older, you’d probably remember January 28, 1986.

That was day of the Challenger disaster, when the NASA Space Shuttle orbiter Challenger broke apart 73 seconds into its flight over the Atlantic Ocean, off the coast of Cape Canaveral, Florida at 11:38 EST. All seven crew members were killed, including five NASA astronauts and two payload specialists.

Millions of Americans (17% of the total population) watched the launch live on TV because of Payload Specialist Christa McAuliffe, the first teacher in space. Media coverage of the explosion was extensive: one study reported that 85% of Americans surveyed had heard the news within an hour of the accident.

Challenger disaster

We were told that Challenger disintegrated because of a malfunctioning O-ring seal in its right solid rocket booster. The O-ring failure caused a breach in the SRB joint it sealed, allowing pressurized burning gas from within the solid rocket motor to reach the outside and impinge upon the adjacent SRB aft field joint attachment hardware and external fuel tank, leading to the structural failure of the external tank. Aerodynamic forces broke up the orbiter.

The crew compartment and many other vehicle fragments were eventually recovered from the ocean floor after a lengthy search and recovery operation. The exact timing of the death of the crew is unknown; several crew members are known to have survived the initial breakup of the spacecraft. But the shuttle had no escape system, and the impact of the crew compartment with the ocean surface was too violent to be survivable.

The disaster resulted in a 32-month hiatus in NASA’s shuttle program and the formation of the Rogers Commission, a special commission appointed by then President Ronald Reagan to investigate the accident. The commission found NASA’s organizational culture and decision-making processes had been key contributing factors to the accident.

These are the names of Challenger’s 7 crew members:

  1. Francis Richard Scobee, Commander
  2. Michael J. Smith, Pilot
  3. Ronald McNair, Mission Specialist
  4. Ellison Onizuka, Mission Specialist
  5. Judith Resnik, Mission Specialist
  6. Greg Jarvis, Payload Specialist
  7. Christa McAuliffe, Payload Specialist

But wait!

What if I were to tell you that most, if not all, of Challenger’s 7 crew members are still alive and thriving in their new professions, contrary to what we’ve been told?

That is the contention of simonshack and other contributors on the chat forum, CluesForum.info. They claim 6 of the 7 Challenger crew members are still alive; some even kept their names. Here’s their evidence.

Click pic below to enlarge

Challenger_flight_51-l_crew

1. Francis Richard Scobee, Commander of Challenger Space Shuttle

Born on May 19, 1939, Commander Francis Richard Scobee was 46 when he died in the Challenger explosion. He would be 75 years old if he were alive today.

Strangely, there’s a man also named Richard Scobee, the CEO of a Chicago marketing-advertising company called Cows in Trees, who bears a striking resemblance (factoring in the 30-year timelapse) Commander Richard Scobee.

Richard Scobee

The source of the pic on the right of CEO Richard Scobee is his LinkedIn page.

If you go on Cows in Trees’ website, you’ll see an animatioin of a rocket-powered cow in the sky with a swirling smoke-shaped 6, much like Space Shuttle Challenger as it was seen on TV exploding in mid-air. Wink, wink. CEO Richard Scobee sure has a sense of humor!

Cows in Trees & Challenger explosion

2. Michael J. Smith, Pilot of Challenger

Born on April 30, 1945, Challenger pilot Michael John Smith was 41 years old when he died in the explosion.

There’s a man also named Michael J. Smith, who bears a striking resemblance to astronaut Michael J. Smith — same horizontal eyebrows, same grey-blue eyes, same vertical indentation in the tip of the nose. This Michael J. Smith is a Professor Emeritus (retired) of Industrial and Systems Engineering at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, whose email address is mjsmith@cae.wisc.edu

Michael_J_Smith_compared

Astronaut Michael J. Smith would be 70 years old if he were still alive today. Well, hot diggidy damn, there just happens to be a 69-year-old Michael J. Smith (the professor?) whose addresses include Madison, Wisconsin! (He’s #74 on this LookUpAnyone list.)

3. Ronald McNair, Challenger’s Mission Specialist

Born on Oct. 21, 1950, Challenger’s mission specialist Ronald McNair, the second African-American astronaut, with a Ph.D. in physics, would be 64 years old if he had not perished in the space shuttle explosion. If Ronald (l) were still alive today, he would look just like this pic of his brother, Carl (r).

Ronald McNair

Carl McNair is an author, education consultant and inspirational speaker. He is the founder and president emeritus of the Ronald E. McNair Foundation in honor of his brother. Here’s Carl’s LinkedIn page.

4. Ellison Onizuka, Challenger Mission Specialist

Another Challenger mission specialist, Ellison Onizuka, the first Japanese-American astronaut, also has a lookalike brother named Claude. Born on June 24, 1946 in Hawaii, Ellison would be 68 years old today if he had not died in the Challenger explosion. If Ellison were still alive, he would look just like this pic of his younger brother Claude — same eyebrows, same eyes, same crow’s feet wrinkles, same nose, even the same hair-parting.

Ellison and Claude Onizuka

Claude Onizuka is a Liquor Adjudication Board Member of the Department of Liquor Control, County of Hawaii, Hilo, Hawaii.

5. Judith Resnick, Challenger Mission Specialist

Born on April 5, 1949, Challenger mission specialist Judith Arlene Resnick, with a Ph.D. in electrical engineering, was the first Jewish American astronaut to go into space and the second female American astronaut. She would be 66 years old today if she had not died in the explosion.

If she were alive today, it is not difficult to imagine that after 29 years, astronaut Judith Resnick would look like Arthur Liman Professor of Law Judith Resnick at Yale Law School — same dark curly hair, same eyebrow shape, same dark eyes.

Judith ResnickJudith Resnicks

Simonshack draws our attention to how both Judith Resnicks’ upper lips form a slight peak (on their left) when they speak:

Judith Resnicks

I searched Ancestry.com’s SSDI for Judith Resnick. I found the SSDIs for three women named “Judith Resnick,” none of whom is astronaut Judith Resnick. Here’s a screenshot I took of the search results:

Challenger - Resnick1

6. Sharon Christa McAuliffe, Challenger Payload Specialist

Born on Sept. 2, 1948, Sharon Christa McAuliffe was a social studies teacher at Concord High School in New Hampshire when she was selected from more than 11,000 applicants to participate in the NASA Teacher in Space Project. If Challenger had not exploded, she would be the first teacher in space. If she had not died in the Challenger disaster, McAuliffe would be 66 years old today.

Well, there’s a Sharon A. McAuliffe who’s an adjunct professor at Syracuse University College of Law, who kinda looks like like an older astronaut McAuliffe, factoring in the 30 years timelapse.

Sharon McAuliffe

 

Simonshack points us that “It may also be entirely coincidental” that Syracuse law professor Sharon is a cousin of Terry McAuliffe, the current governor of Virginia who was co-chairman of President Bill Clinton’s 1996 re-election campaign and chairman of Hillary Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign. Terry McAuliffe, an advocate of gun control, is also very much concerned about NASA funding issues. See here and here.

In the end we need to ask ourselves this question:

It’s one thing that one of the Challenger’s crew members resembles someone alive today. For that, we can chalk it up to a coincidence.

It’s another thing entirely that SIX members of the Challenger crew have doppelgängers who are alive, in some cases with exactly the same names (Richard Scobee, Michael J. Smith, Judith Resnick, Sharon McAuliffe). What are the chances of that?

You don’t have to be an expert in mathematics to know that those odds defy statistical probability.

H/t FOTM’s Martha Trowbridge

UPDATE:

(April 30, 2015, 4 hours I first published this post)

I had already verified that there is no SSDI for astronaut Judith Resnick, born in 1949 and supposedly died in January 1986. I was planning to look up the SSDIs of the other 6 Challenger crew members. Happily, brianv on CluesForum.info had already done that. Surprise! — not — he could not find their SSDIs.

SSDI listing for the Challenger Crew

  • Michael J. Smith, Date of Death (DOD) Feb 1986 – Your search returned no matches.
  • Richard Scobee DOD Feb 1986 – Your search returned no matches.
  • Ronald McNair DOD Feb 1986 – Your search returned no matches.
  • Ellison Onizuka DOD Feb 1986: Search produced two Ellison Onizuka who’d died: one on June 24, 1946; the other in January 1986.
  • Christa McAuliffe DOD Feb 1986 – Your search returned no matches.
  • Gregory Jarvis DOD Feb 1986 – Your search returned no matches.
  • Judith Resnik DOD Feb 1986 – Your search returned no matches.

Update (May 1, 2015):

A commenter pointed out that the SSDI searches were conducted for DOD in Feb. 1986 when the Challenger crew supposedly died in Jan. 1986. I just obtained a subscription to Ancestry.com and will search for the SSDI for the other 6 crew members, having already done that for Judith Resnick (see above). I’ll report the results I get later today. Stay tuned!

Update:

I found the SSDIs of Scobee, Smith, McNair, and Onizuka on Ancestry.com, but not of Resnick and McAuliffe. Will do a follow-up post on this later!

~Éowyn (13 images)

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

There are medications for paranoid schizophrenia. Maybe you should finally consider it.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-05-01   20:03:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: TooConservative (#1) (Edited)

To: Deckard

There are medications for paranoid schizophrenia. Maybe you should finally consider it.

Easy, TC. To even question Deckard means you must be a statist, bootlicking Brownshirt thug that wipes his ass on a certified and notarized copy of the USC. He is untouchable... unquestionable and an Oracle of all that's true and factual. His Modus operandi is perfect and flawless. He states it.... and if you disagree or question it, you are a traitor, drunk or statist.

It's a fight you can not win... he's not crazy. All of us are. lol

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-05-01   20:16:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: GrandIsland (#2)

Cowardly bozo sniper shit-stain.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-05-01   20:19:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: TooConservative (#1) (Edited)

There are medications for paranoid schizophrenia

Calm down princess - I found it interesting, nothing more.

In order to have a good conspiracy, you gotta have a reason.

This guy makes a lot of interesting claims but is unable to posit "why" this would have happened.

The question of "qui bono?" isn't addressed.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-05-01   20:23:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Deckard (#0)

Are the crew members of 1986 Space Shuttle Challenger still alive?

Let me check with Elvis and I'll get back to you on this.

cranko  posted on  2015-05-01   20:45:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Deckard (#0)

That is the contention of simonshack and other contributors on the chat forum, CluesForum.info. They claim 6 of the 7 Challenger crew members are still alive; some even kept their names. Here’s their evidence.

One conspiracy theory I would lend credence to is that the Fed Gov has established a hidden department somewhere that does nothing but promote fake tabloid level anti-gov conspiracy theories on discussion forums, for the purpose of creating an environment where any and all anti-gov theories that arise are quickly dismissed.

Including the theories that are accurate.

Pinguinite  posted on  2015-05-02   4:49:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Deckard (#0)

You took the tyme to post this trash? What on Earth were you considering at the moment you hit the "enter key" ... twilight zone?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-05-02   7:39:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Deckard (#0)

LOL.

Slow "news" day at the ministry of information?

VxH  posted on  2015-05-02   8:54:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Deckard (#0)

No. Next question.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2015-05-02   17:10:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Tooconservative, Deckard (#1)

Title: Are the crew members of 1986 Space Shuttle Challenger still alive?
Source: Fellowship of The Minds
URL Source: http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/201 ... huttle-challenger-still-alive/
Published: May 1, 2015
Author: Dr. Eowyn
Post Date: 2015-05-01 14:25:55 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 5755
Comments: 9

Friends, wrap your head with duct tape (to prevent it from exploding). It’s Down-the-Rabbit-Hole time!

Well, well. Lookie here at what I found in LF's great archives. (I'd recently posted validation and confirmation on exactly this same phenomena.)

But...but... GUESS WHO provides the very first post and accusation of "paranoid schizophrenia"?? BRAVO!! Epic Gatekeeping!

#1. To: Deckard (#0)

There are medications for paranoid schizophrenia. Maybe you should finally consider it.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-05-01   20:03:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply

Liberator  posted on  2019-10-08   14:57:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Pinguinite (#6)

One conspiracy theory I would lend credence to is that the Fed Gov has established a hidden department somewhere that does nothing but promote fake tabloid level anti-gov conspiracy theories on discussion forums, for the purpose of creating an environment where any and all anti-gov theories that arise are quickly dismissed.

Including the theories that are accurate.

Bears repeating. AGAIN.

Liberator  posted on  2019-10-08   14:58:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Liberator (#10)

But...but... GUESS WHO provides the very first post and accusation of "paranoid schizophrenia"??

It's still good advice. You should consider it.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-10-08   19:12:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Liberator, Biff Tannen (#11)

There are medications for paranoid schizophrenia. Maybe you should finally consider it. I'm stealing TC's line and directing it at you Liberator.

A K A Stone  posted on  2019-10-09   7:47:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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