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Title: Back PRIORS AND PRECEDENT Same-Sex Marriage Gets Its Big Day At The Supreme Court
Source: FiveThirtyEight
URL Source: http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/ ... -big-day-at-the-supreme-court/
Published: Apr 28, 2015
Author: Oliver Roeder
Post Date: 2015-04-29 12:33:58 by Jameson
Keywords: SCOTUS, Marraige, 538
Views: 25395
Comments: 119

The question of whether there is a constitutional right to same-sex marriage will finally have its day in court this week. On Tuesday, the Supreme Court will hear two and a half hours of oral argument in a quartet of cases on this subject. If the court reverses lower court rulings that upheld bans on same-sex marriage, it could mean that every state would have to honor such marriages performed in other states, and could require every state to permit them. A decision is expected this summer, most likely in late June. In this edition of Priors and Precedent, we’ll dig into some data and two sources of predictions for this landmark case. First, some background.

The Case

The petitioners are 12 couples and two widowers from states that bar same-sex marriage. A recent profile by NPR dubbed them “‘accidental activists,’ meaning they filed lawsuits not to further a cause but because of the way the bans affected their lives.”

The challenge to the bans, known as Obergefell v. Hodges, is actually four cases rolled into one.1 The court consolidated them and limited its consideration to these two questions:

Does the 14th Amendment require a state to license a marriage between two people of the same sex? Does the 14th Amendment require a state to recognize a marriage between two people of the same sex when their marriage was lawfully licensed and performed out-of-state?

The first is called the “marriage” question, the second the “recognition” question. The court will hear 90 minutes of argument on the former and an hour of argument on the latter. Civics refresher: The 14th Amendment guarantees certain rights under its “due process” and “equal protection” clauses.

If the answer to the first question is “yes,” then the answer to the second is irrelevant, of course.

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#11. To: Jameson (#0)

Does anyone really care about gay/lesbian marriages? I don't care at all. What I don't understand is why the USSC is involved with a "state's right" matter of marriage as though the US Constitution has some quality to express.

The USSC is a liberal court is all. They have expanded powers independent of their explicit branch of government in the US Constitution.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-04-29   21:42:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: buckeroo, nolu chan, liberator, GarySpFc, A K A Stone, CZ82 (#11)

Does anyone really care about gay/lesbian marriages? I don't care at all. What I don't understand is why the USSC is involved with a "state's right" matter of marriage as though the US Constitution has some quality to express.

A couple of points to your comments:

First is you are right this is a state matter. The only argument before the court should be if a state which prohibits gay 'marriage' has to accept a gay 'marriage' certificate from a state which does. But that begs the question...

Second, on 'who cares'?...Well you may not care but the souless minions of liberal marxism do care. They are taking advantage of those who don't care or disinterested to change our laws and constitution. That is why on every issue one must take a stand or someone else will take one for you.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-04-30   10:11:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: redleghunter, nolu chan, liberator, GarySpFc, A K A Stone, CZ82 (#22)

Well you may not care but the souless minions of liberal marxism do care.

Again, I don't care. Now, don't think it is an apathetic remarck. I am saying the norms of society are changing and I have no need to cling to some historical social norm.

Also, I have no need to jump on a bandwagon making changes. I am resilient to change, is all.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-04-30   22:08:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: buckeroo, liberator, CZ82 (#50)

Again, I don't care. Now, don't think it is an apathetic remarck. I am saying the norms of society are changing and I have no need to cling to some historical social norm.

Also, I have no need to jump on a bandwagon making changes. I am resilient to change, is all.

I wonder if the Roman emperor Valens thought the same before the Goths sacked him.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-05-01   2:08:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: redleghunter, Liberator, buckeroo (#61) (Edited)

I wonder if the Roman emperor Valens thought the same before the Goths sacked him.

You would think bucky can see that the idiots seem to be taking over in many places of authority and that the homos are in that crowd in large numbers. (Homos make up %10 of the total population in DC and how many of them run in the political circle)?

Wonder how he'll feel in the future if he's to be "sacked" (bent over the kitchen table) at some wacked out homo marriage ceremony/ritual?? (Where's Meguro when you need him he could comment on that)... :)

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