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The Left's War On Christians Title: We will not obey: Christian leaders threaten civil disobedience if Supreme Court legalizes gay marriage "We will not obey. Thats the blunt warning a group of prominent religious leaders is sending to the Supreme Court of the United States as they consider same-sex marriage. We respectfully warn the Supreme Court not to cross that line, read a document titled, Pledge in Solidarity to Defend Marriage. We stand united together in defense of marriage. Make no mistake about our resolve. While there are many things we can endure, redefining marriage is so fundamental to the natural order and the common good that this is the line we must draw and one we cannot and will not cross, the pledge states. The signees are a whos who of religious leaders including former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, former U.S. Senator Rick Santorum, National Religious Broadcasters president Jerry Johnson, Pastor John Hagee, and Franklin Graham, president and CEO of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association and Samaritans Purse. The pledge was co-drafted by Deacon Keith Fournier, a Catholic deacon, and Mat Staver, the founder of Liberty Counsel. Also involved in the document were Rick Scarborough, the president of Vision America Action and James Dobson, the founder of Family Talk Radio. Were sending a warning to the Supreme Court and frankly any court that crosses the line on the issue of marriage, Staver told me. He said that once same-sex marriage is elevated to the level of protected status it will transform the face of society and will result in the beginning of the end of Western Civilization. You are essentially saying that boys and girls dont need moms and dads that moms and dads are irrelevant, Staver said. Gender becomes pointless when government adopts same-sex marriage. It creates a genderless relationship out of a very gender-specific relationship. It says that it doesnt matter and that two moms or two dads are absolutely equivalent to a mom and a dad. Dobson said the legalization of same-sex marriage could fracture the nation. The institution of marriage is fundamental and it must be defended, he told me. Its the foundation for the entire culture. Its been in existence for 5,000 years. If you weaken it or if you undermine it the entire superstructure can come down. We see it as that important. And that means the possibility of Christians people of faith engaging in acts of civil disobedience. Yes, Im talking about civil disobedience, Staver said. Im talking about resistance and Im talking about peaceful resistance against unjust laws and unjust rulings. Thats quite a shocking statement. So I asked Mr. Staver to clarify his remarks. Im calling for people to not recognize the legitimacy of that ruling because its not grounded in the Rule of Law, he told me. They need to resist that ruling in every way possible. In a peaceful way they need to resist it as much as Martin Luther King, Jr. resisted unjust laws in his time. Scarborough said the pledge was meant to be forthright and clear. Were facing a real Constitutional crisis if the Supreme Court rules adversely from our perspective on same-sex marriage, he told me. For me theres no option. Im going to choose to serve the Lord. And I think that thousands of other pastors will take that position and hundreds of thousands if not millions of Christians. Scarborough is urging pastors across the nation to sign the pledge. He referenced the outrageous penalties being assessed against people of faith simply because they dont want to participate in a same-sex union. An Oregon bakery is facing a $135,000 fine for refusing to make a cake for a lesbian wedding and a Washington State florist faces fines for refusing to participate in a gay wedding. Christians are being declared the lawbreakers when we are simply living by what we have always believed, and by a set of laws that the culture historically has agreed to, he said. Right now the courts are changing the playing field and declaring that what the natural eye can see and natural law reveals is not truth. ... What will we do, and how will we respond? Dobson said theres no doubt that LGBT activists are targeting Christian business owners. For about 50 years the homosexual community has had as its goal to change the culture, to change the ideology and if necessary to force people who dont agree by use of the courts, Dobson told me. I think theres a collision here and we can all see it and where its going to go is anybodys guess but it is serious. To be clear the men and women who courageously signed this pledge did so knowing the hell storm that is about to be unleashed on them and their families. We have no choice, Staver told me. We cannot compromise our clear biblical convictions, our religious convictions.
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#1. To: out damned spot (#0)
Resist "the man"...I'm there!
Yeah we'll see how long the parrots remained perched once the tax-exempt gravy train dries up.
There is an upside and downside to this. The downside, if this happens, will be Christian charitable organizations losing their tax-exempt status. I am sure most are prepared to deal with this and from what I can tell most already operate as non-profit organizations. We already observed a few states deny Christian based adoption services based on state pro-sodomite laws. One being the emperor's 'home' state. The upside is all the charlatan prosperity gospel televangelists. The Beamer driving 'pastors' will have to find another gravy train. So really losing tax exempt status only hurts financially 'ministries' like Joel Osteen. Yet on a federal level the extension of such measures will also hurt some Christian based or run charities.
Yup. From what I gather, operations and budgets are already pretty tight. No island vacations or Beemers in the parking lots from what I've seen. Too much scrutiny from all directions in these kinds of churches. We already observed a few states deny Christian based adoption services based on state pro-sodomite laws. One being the emperor's 'home' state. Perfectly acceptable in the neo-America: Pro-abortion, pro-queer adoption, pro-queer marriage states. BUT the denial of Christian-based adoption and coercion of Christian-based business. As Satan's time grows shorter, things become MORE bizarre. And the weak succumb, compromise, or please their master. Where's that "angry God" sermon again? :-)
Did I post one? I think I did a few months ago.
Yes...but it was only a month or two ago (I believe.) I have it bookmarked somewhere.
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