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Title: We will not obey: Christian leaders threaten civil disobedience if Supreme Court legalizes gay marriage
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015 ... disobedience-if-supreme-court/
Published: Apr 28, 2015
Author: By Todd Starnes
Post Date: 2015-04-28 23:19:07 by out damned spot
Keywords: Christian, Supreme Court, civil disobedience
Views: 30273
Comments: 140

"We will not obey.”

That’s the blunt warning a group of prominent religious leaders is sending to the Supreme Court of the United States as they consider same-sex marriage.

“We respectfully warn the Supreme Court not to cross that line,” read a document titled, Pledge in Solidarity to Defend Marriage. “We stand united together in defense of marriage. Make no mistake about our resolve.”

“While there are many things we can endure, redefining marriage is so fundamental to the natural order and the common good that this is the line we must draw and one we cannot and will not cross,” the pledge states.

The signees are a who’s who of religious leaders including former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, former U.S. Senator Rick Santorum, National Religious Broadcasters president Jerry Johnson, Pastor John Hagee, and Franklin Graham, president and CEO of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association and Samaritan’s Purse.

The pledge was co-drafted by Deacon Keith Fournier, a Catholic deacon, and Mat Staver, the founder of Liberty Counsel. Also involved in the document were Rick Scarborough, the president of Vision America Action and James Dobson, the founder of Family Talk Radio.

“We’re sending a warning to the Supreme Court and frankly any court that crosses the line on the issue of marriage,” Staver told me.

He said that once same-sex marriage is elevated to the level of protected status – it will transform the face of society and will result in the “beginning of the end of Western Civilization.”

“You are essentially saying that boys and girls don’t need moms and dads – that moms and dads are irrelevant,” Staver said. “Gender becomes pointless when government adopts same-sex marriage. It creates a genderless relationship out of a very gender-specific relationship. It says that it doesn’t matter and that two moms or two dads are absolutely equivalent to a mom and a dad.”

Dobson said the legalization of same-sex marriage could fracture the nation.

“The institution of marriage is fundamental and it must be defended,” he told me. “It’s the foundation for the entire culture. It’s been in existence for 5,000 years. If you weaken it or if you undermine it – the entire superstructure can come down. We see it as that important.”

And that means the possibility of Christians – people of faith – engaging in acts of civil disobedience.

“Yes, I’m talking about civil disobedience,” Staver said. “I’m talking about resistance and I’m talking about peaceful resistance against unjust laws and unjust rulings.”

That’s quite a shocking statement. So I asked Mr. Staver to clarify his remarks.

“I’m calling for people to not recognize the legitimacy of that ruling because it’s not grounded in the Rule of Law,” he told me. “They need to resist that ruling in every way possible. In a peaceful way – they need to resist it as much as Martin Luther King, Jr. resisted unjust laws in his time.”

Scarborough said the pledge was meant to be forthright and clear.

“We’re facing a real Constitutional crisis if the Supreme Court rules adversely from our perspective on same-sex marriage,” he told me. For me there’s no option. I’m going to choose to serve the Lord. And I think that thousands of other pastors will take that position and hundreds of thousands – if not millions of Christians.”

Scarborough is urging pastors across the nation to sign the pledge.

He referenced the “outrageous penalties” being assessed against people of faith simply because they don’t want to participate in a same-sex union.

An Oregon bakery is facing a $135,000 fine for refusing to make a cake for a lesbian wedding and a Washington State florist faces fines for refusing to participate in a gay wedding.

“Christians are being declared the lawbreakers when we are simply living by what we have always believed, and by a set of laws that the culture historically has agreed to,” he said. “Right now the courts are changing the playing field and declaring that what the natural eye can see and natural law reveals is not truth. ... What will we do, and how will we respond?”

Dobson said there’s no doubt that LGBT activists are targeting Christian business owners.

“For about 50 years the homosexual community has had as its goal to change the culture, to change the ideology and if necessary – to force people who don’t agree by use of the courts,” Dobson told me. “I think there’s a collision here and we can all see it and where it’s going to go is anybody’s guess – but it is serious.”

To be clear – the men and women who courageously signed this pledge did so knowing the hell storm that is about to be unleashed on them – and their families.

“We have no choice,” Staver told me. “We cannot compromise our clear biblical convictions, our religious convictions.

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#5. To: out damned spot (#0)

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

These folks are fighting a losing battle.
Nobody is forcing them to abandon their personal their personal beliefs.
However, there are "leaders" of other Christian denominations, as well as Jewish, Scientologist, Agnostic, Buddhist, Muslim (although I doubt it), Wiccan and whatever else you can come up with "leaders" who favor gay marriage.

The SCOTUS interprets our laws based on the Consitution, NOT the Christian Bible.
Even if SCOTUS defers to the 10th Amendment, gay marriage acieves status akin to the Sunday Blue Laws: inconsistant from state to state, but eventually achieving national recognition as religious intolerance wanes.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-04-29   7:15:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Willie Green, sneakypete (#5)

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-04-29   8:28:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#6)

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-04-29   9:23:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Fred Mertz (#11) (Edited)

Basic timeline

In its 4.6 billion years circling the Sun, the Earth has harbored an increasing diversity of life forms:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_evolutionary_history_of_life

Maybe one of the homosexual activists in the peanut gallery would like to tell the class exactly where in the above timeline natural selection made homosexual masturbation more beneficial than heterosexual procreation?

VxH  posted on  2015-04-29   9:37:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: VxH (#13)

for the last 3.6 billion years, simple cells (prokaryotes);

I think that was increased recently by a few billion years. But what's a few billion years of unobserved 'science.':)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-04-29   11:07:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: redleghunter (#26)

unobserved 'science.'

What's the "observed 'science'" regarding the alleged slavery of the Jews in Egypt?

http://www.google.com/#q=were+hebrews+really+slaves+in+egypt

www.reformjudaism.org/were-jews-slaves-egypt

Evidently, there is none.

Rutro! Was the passover just another myth atop a pyramidesque pile of eunuch-parrot droppings?

Maybe Martin Luther wasn't delirious after all...

http://www.google.com/search?q=Luther+the+Jews+and+their+lies

VxH  posted on  2015-04-30   10:04:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: VxH, liberator (#57)

What's the "observed 'science'" regarding the alleged slavery of the Jews in Egypt?

Hundreds of thousands of Israelites....Sorry but most the Egyptians who 'witnessed' these things perished.

Exodus 1

The link above will get you started. Good read. YHWH speaks a lot in that book and also Himself writes these things down.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-04-30   10:15:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: redleghunter (#58)

Exodus 1

Been there read that. Who wrote Exodus?

Where's the archaeological evidence supporting the assertion the Hebrews were kept as slaves by their fellow Noahedic tribesmen?

VxH  posted on  2015-05-01   20:11:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: VxH (#121)

Where's the evidence the Torah is not historical?

redleghunter  posted on  2015-05-02   1:09:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: redleghunter (#122) (Edited)

Where's the evidence the Torah is not historical?

Where's the evidence it's not just another mythology concocted by invading, lying, victors and fallen "angels"?

The Torah devotes more than four books to the proposition that the Israelites came to Canaan after having been subjugated in Egypt for generations, and yet there is no archaeological evidence to support that they were ever in Egypt. A prolonged Egyptian stay should have left Egyptian elements in the material culture, such as the pottery found in the early Israelite settlements in Canaan, but there are none...
www.reformjudaism.org/were-jews-slaves-egypt

VxH  posted on  2015-05-02   8:24:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: VxH (#123)

Where's the evidence it's not just another mythology concocted by invading, lying, victors and fallen "angels"?

Jesus Christ followed and taught from Torah. Are you inferring Messiah spread myth?

redleghunter  posted on  2015-05-02   17:18:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: redleghunter (#124)

"The right to search for truth implies also a duty; one must not conceal any part of what one has recognized to be true." --Albert Einstein

a prolonged Egyptian stay should have left Egyptian elements in the material culture, such as the pottery found in the early Israelite settlements in Canaan, but there are none...

History is what history is.

VxH  posted on  2015-05-03   10:18:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: VxH (#125)

So some Egyptian Pharoah is going to record his greatest defeat or the greatest defeat of all Pharaohs?

They will record in pottery and coin the great plagues which inflicted them and cost them every first born.

Israel DID record their events. See Torah.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-05-03   13:16:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: redleghunter (#126) (Edited)

I forget, which tribe were the "Egyptians" related to again?

VxH  posted on  2015-05-04   21:12:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: VxH (#127)

Jeremiah 6:

16 Thus says the Lord:

“Stand in the ways and see, And ask for the old paths, where the good way is, And walk in it; Then you will find rest for your souls. But they said, ‘We will not walk in it.’ 17 Also, I set watchmen over you, saying, ‘Listen to the sound of the trumpet!’ But they said, ‘We will not listen.’ 18 Therefore hear, you nations, And know, O congregation, what is among them. 19 Hear, O earth! Behold, I will certainly bring calamity on this people— The fruit of their thoughts, Because they have not heeded My words Nor My law, but rejected it. 20 For what purpose to Me Comes frankincense from Sheba, And sweet cane from a far country? Your burnt offerings are not acceptable, Nor your sacrifices sweet to Me.” 21 Therefore thus says the Lord:

“Behold, I will lay stumbling blocks before this people, And the fathers and the sons together shall fall on them. The neighbor and his friend shall perish.”

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#138. To: redleghunter (#135) (Edited)

Bzzzt.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mizraim

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