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Title: DrugFacts: Marijuana
Source: National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA)
URL Source: http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/marijuana
Published: Apr 25, 2015
Author: NIDA
Post Date: 2015-04-25 08:43:31 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 18691
Comments: 81

The need for promoting appropriate use of drugs in the health care system is needed….marijuana as a cure all mania is not.

LF's Wacky Weed Kids are again making desperate attempts to promote irrational drug use.

The dynamic duo posted two articles falsely showing the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) position on marijuana.

A Few Good Men (1992):
Colonel Jessep: You want answers?! Lieutenant Kaffee: I want the truth! Colonel Jessep: You can't handle the truth!

You potheads want the NIDA position on marijuana, you can’t handle the NIDA position on marijuana….here it is anyway:

National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA)
The Science of Drug Abuse and Addiction
The mission of the NIDA is to lead the Nation in bringing the power of science to bear on drug abuse and addiction
DrugFacts: Marijuana
Revised April 2015

What is marijuana

Marijuana refers to the dried leaves, flowers, stems, and seeds from the hemp plant, Cannabis sativa. The plant contains the mind- altering chemical delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) and other related compounds. Extracts with high amounts of THC can also be made from the cannabis plant (see "Marijuana Extracts").

Marijuana is the most commonly used illicit drug in the United States (SAMHSA, 2014). Its use is widespread among young people. According to a yearly survey of middle and high school students, rates of marijuana use have steadied in the past few years after several years of increase. However, the number of young people who believe marijuana use is risky is decreasing (Johnston, 2014).

Legalization of marijuana for medical use or adult recreational use in a growing number of states may affect these views. Read more about marijuana as medicine in DrugFacts: Is Marijuana Medicine? at www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/marijuana-medicine.

Photo of dried marijuana and 
joints.

How do people use marijuana?

People smoke marijuana in hand-rolled cigarettes (joints) or in pipes or water pipes (bongs). They also smoke it in blunts—emptied cigars that have been partly or completely refilled with marijuana. To avoid inhaling smoke, more people are using vaporizers. These devices pull the active ingredients (including THC) from the marijuana and collect their vapor in a storage unit. A person then inhales the vapor, not the smoke.

Users can mix marijuana in food (edibles), such as brownies, cookies, or candy, or brew it as a tea. A newly popular method of use is smoking or eating different forms of THC-rich resins (see "Marijuana Extracts").

Marijuana Extracts

Smoking THC-rich resins extracted from the marijuana plant is on the rise. Users call this practice dabbing. People are using various forms of these extracts, such as:

  • hash oil or honey oil—a gooey liquid
  • wax or budder—a soft solid with a texture like lip balm
  • shatter—a hard, amber-colored solid

These extracts can deliver extremely large amounts of THC to users, and their use has sent some people to the emergency room. Another danger is in preparing these extracts, which usually involves butane (lighter fluid). A number of people who have used butane to make extracts at home have caused fires and explosions and have been seriously burned.

How does marijuana affect the brain?

Marijuana has both short- and long-term effects on the brain.

Image of a cross section of the 
brain with marked areas that are affected by THC.

THC (in magenta) acts on numerous areas in the brain.

Short-term effects

When a person smokes marijuana, THC quickly passes from the lungs into the bloodstream. The blood carries the chemical to the brain and other organs throughout the body. The body absorbs THC more slowly when the person eats or drinks it. In that case, the user generally feels the effects after 30 minutes to 1 hour.

THC acts on specific brain cell receptors that ordinarily react to natural THC-like chemicals in the brain. These natural chemicals play a role in normal brain development and function.

Marijuana overactivates parts of the brain that contain the highest number of these receptors. This causes the "high" that users feel. Other effects include:

  • altered senses (for example, seeing brighter colors)
  • altered sense of time
  • changes in mood
  • impaired body movement
  • difficulty with thinking and problem-solving
  • impaired memory
Silhouette of a seated young 
male, hunched over with his head resting in his hand.

Long-term effects

Marijuana also affects brain development. When marijuana users begin using as teenagers, the drug may reduce thinking, memory, and learning functions and affect how the brain builds connections between the areas necessary for these functions.

Marijuana’s effects on these abilities may last a long time or even be permanent.

For example, a study showed that people who started smoking marijuana heavily in their teens and had an ongoing cannabis use disorder lost an average of eight IQ points between ages 13 and 38. The lost mental abilities did not fully return in those who quit marijuana as adults. Those who started smoking marijuana as adults did not show notable IQ declines (Meier, 2012).

A Rise in Marijuana’s THC Levels

The amount of THC in marijuana has been increasing steadily over the past few decades. For a new user, this may mean exposure to higher THC levels with a greater chance of a harmful reaction. Higher THC levels may explain the rise in emergency room visits involving marijuana use.

The popularity of edibles also increases the chance of users having harmful reactions. Edibles take longer to digest and produce a high. Therefore, people may consume more to feel the effects faster, leading to dangerous results.

Dabbing is yet another growing trend. More people are using marijuana extracts that provide stronger doses, and therefore stronger effects, of THC (see "Marijuana Extracts").

Higher THC levels may mean a greater risk for addiction if users are regularly exposing themselves to high doses.

What are the other health effects of marijuana?

Marijuana use may have a wide range of effects, both physical and mental.

Physical effects

  • Breathing problems. Marijuana smoke irritates the lungs, and frequent marijuana smokers can have the same breathing problems that tobacco smokers have. These problems include daily cough and phlegm, more frequent lung illness, and a higher risk of lung infections. Researchers still do not know whether marijuana smokers have a higher risk for lung cancer.
  • Increased heart rate. Marijuana raises heart rate for up to 3 hours after smoking. This effect may increase the chance of heart attack. Older people and those with heart problems may be at higher risk
  • Problems with child development during and after pregnancy. Marijuana use during pregnancy is linked to increased risk of both brain and behavioral problems in babies. If a pregnant woman uses marijuana, the drug may affect certain developing parts of the fetus’s brain. Resulting challenges for the child may include problems with attention, memory, and problem-solving.

Mental effects

Long-term marijuana use has been linked to mental illness in some users, such as:

  • temporary hallucinations—sensations and images that seem real though they are not
  • temporary paranoia—extreme and unreasonable distrust of others
  • worsening symptoms in patients with schizophrenia (a severe mental disorder with symptoms such as hallucinations, paranoia, and disorganized thinking)

Marijuana use has also been linked to other mental health problems, such as:

  • depression
  • anxiety
  • suicidal thoughts among teens

Is marijuana addictive?

Contrary to common belief, marijuana can be addictive. Research suggests that about 1 in 11 users becomes addicted to marijuana (Anthony, 1994; Lopez-Quintero 2011).This number increases among those who start as teens (to about 17 percent, or 1 in 6) and among people who use marijuana daily (to 25-50 percent) (Hall, 2009a; Hall, 2009b).

How Does Marijuana Affect a User’s Life?

Compared to nonusers, heavy marijuana users more often report the following:

  • lower life satisfaction
  • poorer mental health
  • poorer physical health
  • more relationship problems

Users also report less academic and career success. For example, marijuana use is linked to a higher likelihood of dropping out of school (McCaffrey, 2010). It is also linked to more job absences, accidents, and injuries (Zwerling, 1990).

How can people get treatment for marijuana addiction?

Long-term marijuana users trying to quit report withdrawal symptoms that make quitting difficult. These include:

  • grouchiness
  • sleeplessness
  • decreased appetite
  • anxiety
  • cravings

Behavioral support has been effective in treating marijuana addiction. Examples include therapy and motivational incentives (providing rewards to patients who remain substance free). No medications are currently available to treat marijuana addiction. However, continuing research may lead to new medications that help ease withdrawal symptoms, block the effects of marijuana, and prevent relapse.

Points to Remember

  • Marijuana refers to the dried leaves, flowers, stems, and seeds from the hemp plant, Cannabis sativa.
  • The plant contains the mind-altering chemical delta-9- tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) and other related compounds.
  • People use marijuana by smoking, eating, drinking, and inhaling it.
  • Smoking THC-rich extracts from the marijuana plant (a practice called dabbing) is on the rise.
  • THC overactivates certain brain cell receptors, resulting in effects such as:
    • altered senses
    • changes in mood
    • impaired body movement
    • difficulty with thinking and problem-solving
    • impaired memory and learning
  • Marijuana use may have a wide range of effects, both physical and mental, which include:
    • breathing illnesses
    • possible harm to a fetus’s brain in pregnant users
    • hallucinations and paranoia
  • The amount of THC in marijuana has been increasing steadily, creating more harmful effects for users.
  • Marijuana can be addictive.
  • Treatment for marijuana addiction includes forms of behavioral therapy. No medications currently exist for treatment.

Learn More

For more information on marijuana and marijuana use, visit:

For more information on marijuana as medicine and on state laws related to marijuana, visit:

Monitoring the Future

Learn more about the Monitoring the Future survey, which annually measures drug, alcohol, and tobacco use and related attitudes among teenage students nationwide:
www.drugabuse.gov/related-topics/trends- statistics/monitoring-future

http://www.dr ug abuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/marijuana.

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#1. To: Gatlin (#0) (Edited)

marijuana as a cure all mania

promote irrational drug use

Isn't it a bit early to be drinking?

WARNING: Mixing prescription drugs with alcohol may lead to paranoid delusions, and posts like yours!


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-04-25   9:14:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: hondo68 (#1)

WARNING: Mixing prescription drugs with alcohol may lead to paranoid delusions, and posts like yours!

I'm starting to think that the clown works for fed.gov.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-04-25   9:20:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Gatlin (#0)

Well, so far you're right. The ignorant dopers can't handle the truth.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-04-25   9:57:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Gatlin (#0)

Are you high?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-04-25   10:44:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: misterwhite (#3) (Edited)

Well, so far you're right.

According to fed.gov.

Of course, we all know they never lie.

They do however engage in pseudo-scientific propaganda.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-04-25   11:10:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: misterwhite (#3)

Well, so far you're right. The ignorant dopers can't handle the truth.

Ignorance is a blight on their drug craving minds and their panic posting of falsely misleading articles won't solve it. Their inability to handle truth makes them so annoying to mainstream society. They serve as gruesome reality portraying those who wish to spawn Americans to relax their attitudes towards abuse, addiction and crime.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-25   11:40:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: All (#0)

LF's Wacky Weed Kids are again making desperate attempts to promote irrational drug use.

Potheads are loaded with an arsenal of copy and paste topics to throw at anyone who objects to their grim habit. They try to show reasons why pot is good yet they will never admit that they smoke the drug simply to get high. Why they love to feel bleary and weak is unknown even to them. The escapism they seek can be described as extreme selfishness to avoid reality. The basic dishonesty concerning their motives is but one reason I will forever distrust the reefer freak.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-25   11:56:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Gatlin, Excalibur, Operation 40, hondo68, Orwellian Nightmare, sneakypete, TooConservative, buckeroo (#7)

...their grim habit.

...The escapism they seek...

...reefer freak.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-04-25   12:05:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Deckard (#8)

These threads are pointless. No one is going to be convinced to change their position, nor is LF a site read by a lot of lurkers.

So the viciousness of the infighting on these threads seems mostly due to there being so little to gain or lose.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-04-25   12:16:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: All (#7)

Potheads are loaded with an arsenal of copy and paste topics to throw at anyone who objects to their grim habit.

The ghoulish marijuana fiends will not accept that some people just don’t want to put their brains at a disadvantage to have their drug problem. Afflicted potheads live in their own world having convinced themselves that being numb and idiotic is an acceptable noble trait. Maybe that is why they deny the potential for addiction on one hand, and then spend hours trying to convince others to take up their habit on the other.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-25   12:17:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Gatlin (#10)

The ghoulish marijuana fiends....

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“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-04-25   12:19:50 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Deckard (#8)

Thank you, Deckard, for that publick service announcement. I quit.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-04-25   12:22:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: TooConservative (#9)

These threads are pointless.

Smoking pot is pointless. It results in weakened mental faculties and sometimes claustrophobic paranoia….meaning the pothead becomes utterly terrified of wandering alone in the intellectual desert.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-25   12:22:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: All (#13)

The absence of critical thinking in the pot culture is remarkably astonishing. Potheads will go to any extreme to destroy a thread critical of their actions. They are always willing to grasp onto any conspiracy theory and become gossip mongers to repeat unfounded information from some garish little blog….as long as it reinforces their drug of choice. But when faced with serious journalistic criticism, they scream lies, blody lies and paste irrelevant pictures.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-25   12:31:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: TooConservative, y'all (#9)

These threads are pointless. No one is going to be convinced to change their position, nor is LF a site read by a lot of lurkers.

So the viciousness of the infighting on these threads seems mostly due to there being so little to gain or lose

These threads are good examples of one of the major political problems we have in the USA today..

The fight between the small govt constitutionalists, and the big brother progressive socialists.

The progressives are rapidly losing, and are frantically defending their 100 year old experiment in socialism.

I find the fight amusing to monitor. -- Why don't you?

tpaine  posted on  2015-04-25   12:35:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Gatlin (#13)

Your life is pointless.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-04-25   12:36:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Deckard (#16)

... life is pointless.

Potheads lives are pointless. Potheads have often let it be known that weed is the singularly most important thing in their lives. The arrange everything around and constantly post invalid information about their ganja habit. It appears like you imbeciles are married to a houseplant….one nice thing being, at least you found your intellectual equal.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-25   12:40:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Gatlin (#13)

Smoking pot is pointless. It results in weakened mental faculties and sometimes claustrophobic paranoia….meaning the pothead becomes utterly terrified of wandering alone in the intellectual desert.

You’ve probably seen those “Above The Influence” anti-drug commercials in which they show worst scenario outcomes to people smoking weed. Really depressing sh*t. They always make the person out to be an accidental murderer, or homeless, jobless, friendless. No prospects of anything positive on the horizon. Well, we have a list of the smartest people who ever admitted to smoking pot as a nice complement to the most successful people who owned up to puffin’ dope. Suck it, ATI.

Steve Jobs

It’s been reported the Apple co-founder smoked pot and took LSD in his first semester at Reed College in Portland, Oregon in 1972. Since dropping out from the school, he’s only gone on to become one of the most successful and wealthiest people in America. In 1984, he received the National Medal of Technology from President Ronald Reagan. In 2007, Fortune Magazine named him the most powerful person in business and then California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger inducted him into the California Hall of Fame. Fortune also named him CEO of the Decade in 2009 while Forbes ranked him #57 on their list of the World’s Most Powerful People that same year. The Financial Times named Jobs its person of the year for 2010.

I’m not sure, but I don’t think you can have those kind of accolades being dumb. Plus, the guy’s a Beatles fan, dated Joan Baez, and sold one of his houses to Bono from U2. That’s some hip, hip company, my friend.

Carl Sagan

Astronomer, astrophysicist, cosmologist, pothead.

It’s hard to argue for pot slowing you down when you look at Carl Sagan’s record. Apparently a confirmed and admitted stoner, among his many achievements are a Pulitzer Prize, an Emmy, a best-selling novel, as well as more than 500 science papers and articles. He was a founding member of the Planetary Society, and he won a pipe load of scientific awards.  Hardly surprising, he is said to have believed in the validity of stoned insights. I believe in them too, it’s just that Carl’s revolved around the origins of the cosmos, not which bagel store is open at 3 in the morning.


Stephen Jay Gould

Paleontologist, biologist, science historian.

Most famous scientific contribution was the theory of punctuated equilibrium, which says that most evolution is marked by long periods of stability. Kind of like most of us after a good bong hit. One of the most influential and best read writers of popular science, Gould became an advocate for medical marijuana following his diagnosis with cancer. He claimed it had an “important effect” on his recovery. He also testified in court to the benefits of marijuana, and is quoted as saying “it is beyond my comprehension that any humane person would withhold such a beneficial substance from people in such great need simple because others use it for different purposes.”

Gould used pot to help retain his health for twenty years, the same period during which he wrote The Structure of Evolutionary Theory, not what you might call an insignificant work.


Francis Crick

Won a Nobel Prize for figuring out the double-helix structure of DNA. Rumor has it that he was on acid at the time. Crick wasn’t the first to see twin twisted monsters coming at him during an acid plunge, but he was the first to recognize as an important scientific discovery. As a founding member of Soma, a legalize cannabis group, he also experimented pot, which he believed helped to remove the filters of abstract thought.


Margaret Mead

Ok, so it’s probably not totally accurate to describe Margaret Mead as a pothead, but she was a major proponent for marijuana, so we’re going to widen the definition a bit.

When she died in 1978, Mead was possibly the most famous Anthropologist on the planet. Time had named her Mother of the World in 1969. She authored or co-authored around 40 books, received 28 honorary doctorates, and was President of both the American Anthropological Association and the American Association for the Advancement of Science. Most famously, she testified before Congress on the legalization of marijuana. She testified on lots of stuff, but it’s this one everyone remembers. Afterwards, she was called a dirty old lady, crazy, and no doubt many other things.


Andrew Weil

Had a mushroom named after him. Do we need to know any more? Well, yes, we do. Although he looks like he’s been binging on an all-night high, Dr. Weil has medical and biology degrees from Harvard, is a naturopath, as well as a widely acknowledged expert on medicinal herbs, alternative medicines, and mind and body interactions. He was on the cover of Time, has written a bunch of books, and used to write for High Times. He talks about the advantages of stoned thinking, as well as an innate need to alter consciousness. Is that him or us? Whatever, it’s clearly worked for him.


Kary Mullis

Another Nobel Prize winner, another stoner. Mullis tried heavier drugs than just pot. He invented the polymerase chain reaction, which if it’s slipped your mind, is the one that allows duplication of parts of DNA. He says acid helped him to develop it, perhaps along with pot, which he allegedly smoked just before his first trip. While most of us have trouble figuring out how a chair works when we’re high, this guy was working out how to mimic nature.


Oliver Sacks

If you’ve seen “Awakenings” with Robin Williams, you already know something of Oliver Sacks’ work. He’s a neurologist, the film based on his book of the same name. He also wrote The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat. Sacks is an Oxford graduate and professor of neurology at Columbia Medical Center. He’s been referred to as the poet laureate of medicine, and received numerous awards and honorary doctorates in the field of neurological science. Not bad for a man who’s admitted to using marijuana on a more that recreational level, seeing it as a potential gateway to other minds and other consciousnesses.


Richard Feynman

Physicist who helped design the atomic bomb. Well, nobody said anyone on this list was wise, just smarter than average. Feynman used pot to enhance his out of body experiences while in a sensory deprivation tank. When he came out, he won a Nobel Prize for his theory of quantum electrodynamics.

Sergey Brin

He has a BS from the University of Maryland, a MS from Stanford and took PhD courses at Stanford before putting that on hiatus to co-found Google with Larry Page. His dad’s a math professor at the University of Maryland. His mom’s a research scientist at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center. His wife, Ann Wojcicki, is a biotech analyst who graduated with a B.S. in biology from Yale in 1996. She and Brin are working with leading researchers to help doctors, patients, and researchers analyze the human genome data and try to repair “bugs” as if DNA were HTML. He was inducted into the National Academy of Engineering, which is “among the highest professional distinctions accorded to an engineer” and received the Marconi Foundation Prize, the “Highest Award in Engineering”. Like Jobs (see above), he’s among the wealthiest in the world.

I can only imagine the first time he described DNA as HTML to someone, he/she must’ve been like, “are you high?” To which, he responded, “No! Why? You holdin’?”

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-04-25   12:41:51 ET  (19 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Gatlin (#17) (Edited)

Potheads have often let it be known that weed is the singularly most important thing in their lives.

Making shit up again?

Why is no one surprised?

On the other hand you seem to have some sick authoritarian fetish judging by your posts praising the unconstitutional War on Drugs.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-04-25   12:44:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Deckard (#19)

Potheads have often let it be known that weed is the singularly most important thing in their lives.

There is absolutely no need for you potheads to take a sentence out of context from a NIDA document and try to have another hours-long discussion like you do every time the subject of pot comes up. You cannot possible understand or comprehend how incredibly dull you Weed Kids are. You are like a thousand characters from a smoke in arriving for a mutual masturbation fest.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-25   12:50:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: tpaine (#15)

I find the fight amusing to monitor. -- Why don't you?

After a few thousand threads with the same people posting the same exact stuff, it begins to lose some of its charm.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-04-25   12:58:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Gatlin (#20)

There is absolutely no need for you potheads

Yeah, anyone against the war on drugs or in favor of parents treating their kids seizures as they see fit and without asking permission from big daddy gooberment must be potheads.

Get a clue, fascist-boy.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-04-25   12:59:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Gatlin, hondo68 (#20)

...mutual masturbation fest.

Admit it - you miss yukon, don't you?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-04-25   13:00:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: All (#21)

I don’t know if it’s the social isolation or the beginning of schizophrenia that causes you potheads to be such strange….very strange folks. Most of us shudder because we know. We also know the really sad thing is that you have no clue just how weird you really are. You potheads are FREAKS….and I leave you with that.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-25   13:01:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Gatlin (#24)

I don’t know if it’s the social isolation or the beginning of schizophrenia that causes you potheads to be such strange….very strange folks. Most of us shudder because we know. We also know the really sad thing is that you have no clue just how weird you really are. You potheads are FREAKS….and I leave you with that.

Coming from someone who tried to Sybil the forum here, you come across as being truly irrational.

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-04-25   13:05:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Dead Culture Watch (#25) (Edited)

Coming from someone who tried to Sybil the forum here, you come across as being truly irrational.

No doubt you show the behavior of someone missing important information by no treating intelligence as if it limited all of your cognitive abilities. I understand your inability to think rationally with your inadequate intelligence. You should not be surprised when smart people say smart things.

If something is irrational, then you bothering to spend time on is even more irrational….is it not?

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-25   13:26:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Gatlin (#26)

Tater, you are so full shit, everyone can see it foaming out of your keyboard.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-04-25   13:48:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Gatlin (#7)

Potheads are loaded with an arsenal of copy and paste topics to throw at anyone who objects to their grim habit. They try to show reasons why pot is good yet they will never admit that they smoke the drug simply to get high. Why they love to feel bleary and weak is unknown even to them. The escapism they seek can be described as extreme selfishness to avoid reality. The basic dishonesty concerning their motives is but one reason I will forever distrust the reefer freak.

Amen.

rlk  posted on  2015-04-25   14:13:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Dead Culture Watch, Too Conservative, Sybil, Bobby, Grandious, Willy, Etc. (#25)

These threads are good examples of one of the major political problems we have in the USA today..

The fight between the small govt constitutionalists, and the big brother progressive socialists.

The progressives are rapidly losing, and are frantically defending their 100 year old experiment in socialism.

I find the fight amusing to monitor. -- Why don't you?

After a few thousand threads with the same people posting the same exact stuff, it begins to lose some of its charm. --- Too Conservative

I enjoy seeing the desperation of the gatlin, misterwhite crowd trying to make valid points for more prohibition. -- They've become quite frantic.

I don’t know if it’s the social isolation or the beginning of schizophrenia that causes you potheads to be such strange….very strange folks. Most of us shudder because we know. We also know the really sad thing is that you have no clue just how weird you really are. You potheads are FREAKS….and I leave you with that. ---- Gatlin

I'd bet that as a group, we constitutionalists use less mind altering substances than gatlin and his progressives.

Coming from someone who tried to Sybil the forum here, you come across as being truly irrational.---- Dead Culture Watch
You got it......

tpaine  posted on  2015-04-25   14:53:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Gatlin (#26)

information by no treating intelligence as if it

Lol, what a dumbass you are!

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-04-25   15:44:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Dead Culture Watch (#30)

Why do you never attempt in any way to dispute or disprove any content of my posts?

Is it because you can't, since I only use moral and practical reasoning?

Why is all you can do, is personally attack me with name calling?

Why do you not present something that will give some credibility to you posts?

What is you problem?

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-25   16:24:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Dead Culture Watch (#30)

Lol, what a dumbass you are!

But smart enough to cause you emotional pain….and it is with great pleasure that I continue to exacerbate that condition knowing that it probably will never be ameliorated for you. LOL....right back at you!!!

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-05   1:18:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Gatlin (#31)

To: Dead Culture Watch Why do you never attempt in any way to dispute or disprove any content of my posts?

Is it because you can't, since I only use moral and practical reasoning?

Why is all you can do, is personally attack me with name calling?

Why do you not present something that will give some credibility to you posts?

What is you problem?

I merely pointed out that using multiple IDs is something a complete loser does.

The whole pot good/bad threads are actually boring as hell to me. I don't use drugs, but I know I don't have any moral right to tell another they cannot.

But I guess you are too stupid to grasp my opinion, or it's relevant concept.

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-05-05   9:06:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Dead Culture Watch, Gatlin (#25)

Coming from someone who tried to Sybil the forum here, you come across as being truly irrational.

OUCH. Lol.

(but wasn't it TWO forums?)

Gatlin still doesn't understand the long-standing animus of his shenanigans and sweeping false accusations. An admission of being wrong -- though rare at these forums -- goes a long way in a lot of peoples' books.

Liberator  posted on  2015-05-05   9:22:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Gatlin (#0)

For example, a study showed that people who started smoking marijuana heavily in their teens and had an ongoing cannabis use disorder lost an average of eight IQ points between ages 13 and 38. The lost mental abilities did not fully return in those who quit marijuana as adults. Those who started smoking marijuana as adults did not show notable IQ declines (Meier, 2012).

Explains a lot.

Played sports in freshmen year of HS with great athletes and students. One summer later a few stopped playing sports and became marginal or failing students. Drugs...

"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb.” (Psalm 139:13)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-05-05   9:30:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Gatlin (#0)

Those who started smoking marijuana as adults did not show notable IQ declines (Meier, 2012).

But no doubt increases in votes for liberals.

"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb.” (Psalm 139:13)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-05-05   9:32:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: TooConservative (#9)

These threads are pointless. No one is going to be convinced to change their position, nor is LF a site read by a lot of lurkers.

So the viciousness of the infighting on these threads seems mostly due to there being so little to gain or lose.

Yes the lines seem to be quite fixed on this issue.

"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb.” (Psalm 139:13)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-05-05   9:46:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: tpaine (#15)

The progressives are rapidly losing, and are frantically defending their 100 year old experiment in socialism.

How are the socialists losing? At every turn the emperor and his successor vice regent Hitlery are winning the culture and political wars. A tyrannical SCOTUS as well. Seems they are entrenched.

"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb.” (Psalm 139:13)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-05-05   9:50:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Deckard, CZ82, liberator (#19)

Steve Jobs

I guess the question would be did Jobs when CEO for Apple require drug testing for his employees? What about Microsoft and any other large corporation?

When a lot of these youth pot users became bottom line men in business did they hire people like their younger 'selves' or people they knew would be clean?

Something to look at.

Oh and Carl Sagan believed in aliens.

"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb.” (Psalm 139:13)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-05-05   10:00:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: redleghunter (#39)

Oh and Carl Sagan believed in aliens.

So?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-05-05   10:06:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Deckard (#40)

Oh and Carl Sagan believed in aliens.

So?

Just sayin'....

"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb.” (Psalm 139:13)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-05-05   10:08:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: redleghunter (#41)

My personal belief as a Christian is that aliens do exist, however they are not extra-terrestrial beings but fallen angels (demons).

Aliens from outer space or the great deception?


The scriptures tell us that in the last days God will allow a
great deception to take place. It will be so great that it would even deceive the elect if this were possible. This deception may be one delivered by beings some people call aliens from outer space. It is no coincidence that there is common pagan theological agreement among those in the occult, those in the new age movement, and those that believe that we are being visited by aliens from outer space.

It is obvious that some form of alien beings are interacting with the human race. The Bible declares that there are beings in space or the atmosphere of the earth that interact with men called angels, and demons.

The core message supposedly said by those posing as alien beings that claim to come from another world or dimenison is always contrary to the teachings of Christianity.
The basic message is humans are their offspring and that human beings will evolve into a higher state (like them) and their role is to help us evolve into this advanced state. This supports the theory that these beings are really fallen angels. Their real motive is to deceive mankind. In addition, they may also be trying to genetically alter the human species so Jesus cannot legally come as a son of Adam and be mankind's kinsman redeemer. They apparently did it before the flood.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-05-05   10:15:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Deckard (#42)

great deception

The great deception is these are superior beings come to help us.

The Saganites see such as a 'good thing.'

"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb.” (Psalm 139:13)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-05-05   10:25:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: redleghunter, tpaine, Nolu Chan (#38)

How are the socialists losing? At every turn the emperor and his successor vice regent Hitlery are winning the culture and political wars. A tyrannical SCOTUS as well. Seems they are entrenched.

Yeah, I don't see how the socialist-progs are losing on any front. They've oonly gotten stronger and more entrenched. They control the media, the message, the language, AND culture. And define "normalcy," relevance, and even morality. How else do sodomites get celebrated as "heroic"?

As Red notes, they also control the courts while SCOTUS fronts for socialism and tyranny. The 1st Amendment exists conditionally as does the 2nd. Moreover, as Nolu Chan has pointed out rather articulately and in great detail, the 14th Amendment -- dubiously enacted at best -- has all but contaminated the entire US Constitution.

Liberator  posted on  2015-05-05   11:33:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Deckard, redleghunter (#42)

My personal belief as a Christian is that aliens do exist, however they are not extra-terrestrial beings but fallen angels (demons).

Agree there.

It is obvious that some form of alien beings are interacting with the human race.

But not there. I don't believe this claim is obvious or presently (or ever) occurred. Nor an "inter-species" invasion of alien-demons that physically "alter" our DNA into a "hybrid-being."

Will the elect be deceived? We know that it's occurring at this very moment. Through demon possession.

Liberator  posted on  2015-05-05   11:42:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: redleghunter, y'all (#38)

These threads are good examples of one of the major political problems we have in the USA today..

The fight between the small govt constitutionalists, and the big brother progressive socialists.

The progressives are rapidly losing, and are frantically defending their 100 year old experiment in socialism.

I find the fight amusing to monitor. -- Why don't you?

How are the socialists losing? At every turn the emperor and his successor vice regent Hitlery are winning the culture and political wars. A tyrannical SCOTUS as well. Seems they are entrenched.

They're only winning in the 'cultures' that don't matter. -- We've regained control in congress, and are about to get the presidency; -- and your fears about SCOTUS opinions are baseless. - Who cares if queers call themselves 'married', or if the weirdos smoke pot? We're about to restore constitutional principles in the USA, and some Cassandras are stuck in the weeds crying 'woe is us'.

tpaine  posted on  2015-05-05   11:46:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Liberator, redleghunter, nolu chan, y'all (#44) (Edited)

Red --- How are the socialists losing? At every turn the emperor and his successor vice regent Hitlery are winning the culture and political wars. A tyrannical SCOTUS as well. Seems they are entrenched.

They're only winning in the 'cultures' that don't matter. -- We've regained control in congress, and are about to get the presidency; -- and your fears about SCOTUS opinions are baseless. - Who cares if queers call themselves 'married', or if the weirdos smoke pot? We're about to restore constitutional principles in the USA, and some Cassandras are stuck in the weeds crying 'woe is us'.

liberator --- Yeah, I don't see how the socialist-progs are losing on any front. They've oonly gotten stronger and more entrenched. They control the media, the message, the language, AND culture. And define "normalcy," relevance, and even morality. How else do sodomites get celebrated as "heroic"? --- As Red notes, they also control the courts while SCOTUS fronts for socialism and tyranny. The 1st Amendment exists conditionally as does the 2nd. Moreover, as Nolu Chan has pointed out rather articulately and in great detail, the 14th Amendment - - dubiously enacted at best -- has all but contaminated the entire US Constitution.

The 14th is being used to defend the 1st and 2nd. The discussion Chan and I had about the 14th stopped when Chan ran out of 'great detail'.

tpaine  posted on  2015-05-05   12:03:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Liberator, Nolu chan (#44)

The 1st Amendment exists conditionally as does the 2nd. Moreover, as Nolu Chan has pointed out rather articulately and in great detail, the 14th Amendment -- dubiously enacted at best -- has all but contaminated the entire US Constitution.

I'll give a follow up comment. Secular Constitutionalists need Conservative Constitutionalist Christians in their 'dugout.' For some reason though for most it is CNNA (Christians Need Not Apply).

"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb.” (Psalm 139:13)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-05-05   12:15:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: tpaine, redleghunter, nolu chan (#47) (Edited)

We've regained control in congress, and are about to get the presidency;

How did that work out for us back in 2005-2006? NOTHING CHANGED. Oh wait -- it did; MORE Dem/socialist/statist policies were crammed up our wazoos. And what makes you believe a Pubbie WILL win in 2016 with The Fix being in? (I don't consider Bush/Romney a "Pubbie.")

Your fears about SCOTUS opinions are baseless. - Who cares if queers call themselves 'married', or if the weirdos smoke pot?

Yeah. Who cares if conservatives get arrested/fined/harrassed for exercising their own 1A and 14A rights? SCOTUS "baseless" decisions will have spoken. Who cares if SCOTUS rules that little 5 year old Johnny must be taught that he may just be "little Joanna"? Yeah, who cares if the Bible is deemed "Hate Speech" by SCOTUS and God's ministers are cited with fines and possible jail time?

As to Cheech and Chong's America, it's not so much a big deal to me personally. But you can be sure that it WILL create a whole new class of state-supported lazy parasites and teenage boys who will not only be lighting up fat doobies with their allowance, but dressing in drag. Public Schools will be a the great facilitator of the new "enlightened" America.

The 14th is being used to defend the 1st and 2nd. The discussion Chan and I had about the 14th stopped when Chan ran out of 'great detail'.

Frankly, regarding the 14th Amendment, Chan convincingly beat you to a pulp point-by-point until there was no more argument left to make. It was established that the 14A was a Trojan Hose Amendment designed to crater the entire document.

Liberator  posted on  2015-05-05   12:22:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: redleghunter, nolu chan (#48)

Secular Constitutionalists need Conservative Constitutionalist Christians in their 'dugout.' For some reason though for most it is CNNA (Christians Need Not Apply).

Yeah, I still don't get that animus.

BUT...it just goes to show us that most Secular Humanist "Constitutionalists" are narcissists who fear answering to God and Believers more than to Tyrants and Fascists.

Liberator  posted on  2015-05-05   12:28:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: tpaine, liberator (#46)

They're only winning in the 'cultures' that don't matter. -- We've regained control in congress, and are about to get the presidency; -- and your fears about SCOTUS opinions are baseless. - Who cares if queers call themselves 'married', or if the weirdos smoke pot? We're about to restore constitutional principles in the USA, and some Cassandras are stuck in the weeds crying 'woe is us'.

I wouldn't count those presidential chickens before they hatch. The GOP has something like 10-14 people announced or to be announced. Latest is Fiorna and today Huckabee.

All that money going in 14 different directions. Big money coming out for Jeb Bush. This looks to be a GOP repeat of 2012.

On pot? I don't want people telling lies that 'pot is good for you.' Just as I don't want to hear the lies that 'alcohol is good for you.' Kids and teens don't need to hear those lies.

I do agree with you that parents are the main force in educating their children and teens on values, drugs, healthy living. To include making themselves examples for their children. However, the bombardment of a society out of control, an immoral nation takes its toll on everyone.

On SCOTUS? What the heck are they doing ruling on legalizing perversions? That alone is an indicator our society has taken the deep dive in the pit of no return.

"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb.” (Psalm 139:13)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-05-05   12:28:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: tpaine (#46) (Edited)

We're about to restore constitutional principles in the USA, and some Cassandras are stuck in the weeds crying 'woe is us'.

Lol...you can't be serious? Habla Espanol, amigo?

We are about to "restore" zippo. The USCON is a myth. This Republic (100% of the Dems, 50% of the Pubbies that comprise Congress, the Presidency, and SCOTUS are glorified Flamingo Dancers.) They no longer recognize the Constitution as the enforceable "law of the land" other than as a quaint olde roll of Charmin. Worse than that, half the people don't give a crap.

Liberator  posted on  2015-05-05   12:33:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Liberator, tpaine, nolu chan (#49)

Frankly, regarding the 14th Amendment, Chan convincingly beat you to a pulp point-by-point until there was no more argument left to make.

That's the way of it from my bleacher seats on the exchange.

"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb.” (Psalm 139:13)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-05-05   12:34:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Liberator (#52)

This Republic (100% of the Dems, 50% of the Pubbies that comprise Congress, the Presidency, and SCOTUS are glorified Flamingo Dancers.)

LOL good one.

"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb.” (Psalm 139:13)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-05-05   12:36:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: redleghunter, tpaine, Deckard (#51)

I wouldn't count those presidential chickens before they hatch. The GOP has something like 10-14 people announced or to be announced. Latest is Fiorna and today Huckabee.

All that money going in 14 different directions. Big money coming out for Jeb Bush. This looks to be a GOP repeat of 2012.

I agree. Bush is still the definite front-runner. Follow the BIG money.

And I wouldn't put it past the PTB to create a mythical heroic female Pubbie figure in lesbo-Fiorina (a Dem in RINO clothing.)

On pot? I don't want people telling lies that 'pot is good for you.' Just as I don't want to hear the lies that 'alcohol is good for you.' Kids and teens don't need to hear those lies....the bombardment of a society out of control, an immoral nation takes its toll on everyone.

Excellent and valid points that need to be considered for the coming generations. They don't need that kind of smoke blown up their ying-yang :-) Bad enough they're being indoctrinated with the notion that "sodomy=love" and queer is "just another normal lifestyle."

On SCOTUS? What the heck are they doing ruling on legalizing perversions? That alone is an indicator our society has taken the deep dive in the pit of no return.

Yep. WHAT is so d*mn compelling on queer ANY thing that SCOTUS must rule? Queers already have the "right" to choke themselves blind at bath houses or in the privacy of their feces-scented bedrooms. Oh wait -- 5 black-robed partisan-activist pro-homos are required to order 325 million Americans to accept "gay marriage" as "normal." OR ELSE face jailtime, fines, ruined private business and firings.

Funny how that pesky 14th Amendment selectively DESTROYS the 1st Amendment rights for some as well as enabling some to have rights while selectively denying others.

Liberator  posted on  2015-05-05   12:50:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Liberator, nolu chan, y'all (#49)

They're only winning in the 'cultures' that don't matter. -- We've regained control in congress, and are about to get the presidency; -- and your fears about SCOTUS opinions are baseless. - Who cares if queers call themselves 'married', or if the weirdos smoke pot? We're about to restore constitutional principles in the USA, and some Cassandras are stuck in the weeds crying 'woe is us'.

The 14th is being used to defend the 1st and 2nd. The discussion Chan and I had about the 14th stopped when Chan ran out of 'great detail'.

Yeah. Who cares if conservatives get arrested/fined/harrassed for exercising their own 1A and 14A rights? SCOTUS "baseless" decisions will have spoken. Who cares if SCOTUS rules that little 5 year old Johnny must be taught that he may just be "little Joanna"? Yeah, who cares if the Bible is deemed "Hate Speech" by SCOTUS and God's ministers are cited with fines and possible jail time?
You're hyping these situations almost as bad as the socialists do. Calm down and face reality, -- we're winning on guns and individual freedom, and the constitution will prevail.

As to Cheech and Chong's America, it's not so much a big deal to me personally. But you can be sure that it WILL create a whole new class of state-supported lazy parasites and teenage boys who will not only be lighting up fat doobies with their allowance, but dressing in drag. Public Schools will be a the great facilitator of the new "enlightened" America. ---- Frankly, regarding the 14th Amendment, Chan convincingly beat you to a pulp point- by-point until there was no more argument left to make. It was established that the 14A was a Trojan Hose Amendment designed to crater the entire document.
It'll be interesting to see how Chan reacts to your opinion.

tpaine  posted on  2015-05-05   14:20:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Gatlin (#0)

Poor Gatlin. Stuck in 1937.

http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/marijuana-medicine

NIDA: How might cannabinoids be useful as medicine?

Currently, the two main cannabinoids from the marijuana plant that are of medical interest are THC and CBD.

THC increases appetite and reduces nausea. The FDA-approved THC-based medications are used for these purposes. THC may also decrease pain, inflammation (swelling and redness), and muscle control problems.

CBD is a cannabinoid that does not affect the mind or behavior. It may be useful in reducing pain and inflammation, controlling epileptic seizures, and possibly even treating mental illness and addictions.

NIH-funded and other researchers are continuing to explore the possible uses of THC, CBD, and other cannabinoids for medical treatment.

Operation 40  posted on  2015-05-05   14:42:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Operation 40 (#57) (Edited)

Poor Gatlin. Stuck in 1937.

That article was posted 11 days ago….your delay in responding is duly noted.

You are obviously as slow a poster as you are also a slow learner….definitely reflecting the true developmental learning delay carried forth from your childhood.

If you had received some early learning development intervention therapy, you would not have been stuck with the mind of a ten year old child and could move a little faster throughout life.

Touché, Operation 40….as I use this old exclamation to acknowledge my clever point being made at your expense.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-05   15:38:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Gatlin (#58)

If you had received some early learning development intervention therapy, you would not have been stuck with the mind of a ten year old child and could move a little faster throughout life.

One of the greatest men that ever lived:


"Herb is not a drug"- The Honourable Robert Nesta Marley, O.M.

There are pictures of Bob in ghettos in South Africa, Buddhist Temples in Tibet and Board Rooms in New York City. People will be talking about Bob for hundreds of years. His was a universal message.

How many pictures of you exist outside of your family? Who will even remember you 20 years from now? What is your message?

Operation 40  posted on  2015-05-05   15:48:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Operation 40 (#59) (Edited)

How many pictures of you exist outside of your family?
And just how many pictures of you exist outside of your family, Fanboy?
Who will even remember you 20 years from now?
Marijuana and its primary psychoactive component, THC, have long been known to disrupt cognition in humans. Therefore, you should not have concern for anyone remembering me 20 years from now….you should have the utmost concern about you remembering anything at all 20 years from now, since you will not!!!
What is your message?

Just letting you know there is impaired neural connectivity in specific regions of your brain and it involves a broad range of executive functions like memory. While that is my message, your problem is of no concern to me, dope fiend.

Speaking of 20 years from now….you keep on puffing up like a blowfish until your eyes bulge for their sockets with your entire body shivering and you may end up looking like this in 20 years:

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-05   16:16:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Operation 40 (#59)

You say: One of the greatest men that ever lived, Robert Nesta Marley ….
I say: There is no doubt that Jesus Christ is the greatest man who has ever lived in all of history. He changed the world forever. When He was born, He transformed the very way we measure time. He turned aside the river of the ages out of its course and lifted the centuries off their hinges. His birthday, His Incarnation, touched and transformed time. Jesus Christ is the central figure of history. More books have been written about Jesus Christ than any other person in history and he didn’t smoke pot….did he?

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-05   16:38:17 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Operation 40 (#59)

"His was a universal message."

"Don't Do Drugs"

misterwhite  posted on  2015-05-05   16:44:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: misterwhite, Operation 40 (#62) (Edited)

"His was a universal message."

"Don't Do Drugs"

Ole Bob was well known for being a bit of a ladies man and throughout his life he had an involvement in many different women’s lives. So much so that several of these women bore him children.

Bob Had one more "universal message"....he had his one main chat-up line: “Yuh wan have ma baby?”

Apparently he used this a little bit too much.

The general estimate puts the number of Marley’s progeny at around twenty.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-05   16:55:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Gatlin (#61) (Edited)

More books have been written about Jesus Christ than any other person in history and he didn’t smoke pot….did he?

I don't think Jesus would have told parents to drug their kids up on Ritalin, Oxycontin or Xanax. And I don't think Jesus would have called Cannabis a "Drug".

The Guardian UK: Jesus 'healed using cannabis'

Jesus was almost certainly a cannabis user and an early proponent of the medicinal properties of the drug, according to a study of scriptural texts published this month. The study suggests that Jesus and his disciples used the drug to carry out miraculous healings.

The anointing oil used by Jesus and his disciples contained an ingredient called kaneh-bosem which has since been identified as cannabis extract, according to an article by Chris Bennett in the drugs magazine, High Times, entitled Was Jesus a Stoner? The incense used by Jesus in ceremonies also contained a cannabis extract, suggests Mr Bennett, who quotes scholars to back his claims.

"There can be little doubt about a role for cannabis in Judaic religion," Carl Ruck, professor of classical mythology at Boston University said.

Referring to the existence of cannabis in anointing oils used in ceremonies, he added: "Obviously the easy availability and long-established tradition of cannabis in early Judaism _ would inevitably have included it in the [Christian] mixtures."

Mr Bennett suggests those anointed with the oils used by Jesus were "literally drenched in this potent mixture _ Although most modern people choose to smoke or eat pot, when its active ingredients are transferred into an oil-based carrier, it can also be absorbed through the skin".

Quoting the New Testament, Mr Bennett argues that Jesus anointed his disciples with the oil and encouraged them to do the same with other followers. This could have been responsible for healing eye and skin diseases referred to in the Gospels.

"If cannabis was one of the main ingredients of the ancient anointing oil _ and receiving this oil is what made Jesus the Christ and his followers Christians, then persecuting those who use cannabis could be considered anti-Christ," Mr Bennett concludes.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/jan/06/science.religion

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BBC: Cannabis linked to Biblical healing

Jesus Christ and his apostles may have used a cannabis-based anointing oil to help cure people with crippling diseases, it has been claimed.

Researchers in the United States say the oil used in the early days of the Christian church contained a cannabis extract called kaneh-bosem.

They suggest the extract, which is absorbed into the body when placed on the skin, could have helped cure people with a variety of physical and mental problems.

The author of the article, published in the US drugs magazine High Times, says his findings are based on a study of scriptural texts.

Wide use

The article does not question the validity of the miracles reported in the Bible but rather examines whether the early Christian Church may have made use of substances with an active medical effect.

It does not rule out the role played by blind faith in Christ.

Chris Bennett said cannabis was widely used at the time to heal the sick.

"The medical use of cannabis during that time is supported by archaeological records."

He said the ancient anointing oil contained high levels of cannabis extract.

"The holy anointing oil, as described in the original Hebrew version of the recipe in Exodus, contained over six pounds of keneh-bosum - a substance identified by respected etymology, linguists anthropologists, botanists and other researchers as cannabis extracted into about six quarts of olive oil along with a variety of other fragrant herbs.

"The ancient annointed ones were literally drenched in this potent mixture."

Miracles

Mr Bennett suggested the drug may have played a role in some healing miracles carried out by Jesus and his disciples...snip
More: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2633187.stm

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CHRISTIANS & POT: A HIGH HOLY HISTORY

In February of 2003, HIGH TIMES published my controversial article, “Was Jesus a Stoner?” Shortly thereafter, the concept broached in the piece—specifically, the biblical references to Christ’s use of cannabis in healing—received international attention.

The article was a follow-up to an earlier piece in HIGH TIMES, “The Burning Bush” (June 2002), on the possible references to cannabis in early Judaism and Old Testament texts. This exploration followed the research of scholars like Sara Benetowa and Immanuel Low regarding the identification of an ancient Hebrew term, keneh bosem, as the etymological ancestor of the modern word cannabis.

As discussed in “The Burning Bush,” the first of these references to keneh bosem is found in Exodus 30:23, in which Moses is instructed by the voice of God—emanating from a burning bush—to make an anointing oil of myrrh, cinnamon and roughly six pounds of cannabis (“250 shekels of keneh bosem”) mixed into about a gallon and a half of olive oil.

While this “holy anointing” was originally restricted for use among the priestly class, centuries later the prophet Samuel anointed Saul, the first king of Israel, thereby extending the use of “holy oil” to monarchs as well. Thus, cannabis-infused oils became part of the coronation rite for Jewish kings.

However, with the prophet Jeremiah’s eventual condemnation of cannabis-infused oils and incense in conjunction with the fall of Israel and the loss of Jewish independence, the anointing rite seemingly disappeared from Judaism until its re-emergence years later at the inception of the early Christian period.

As I discussed in “Was Jesus a Stoner?”, the Greek title Christ is the translation of the Jewish term Messiah, which in English becomes “the anointed one” and makes specific reference to the cannabis-based anointing oil described in Exodus. In fact, there is evidence that many of the so-called miracles performed by Jesus and his followers were accounts of actual medical applications of this topical oil. Embellished over time, these stories became the miraculous healing tales of the New Testament—accounts that were written decades after Jesus’ terrestrial life had come to an end.

Read More: http://www.hightimes.com/read/christians-pot-high-holy-history

Operation 40  posted on  2015-05-05   17:19:04 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Operation 40 (#64)

Pot healing was not a universal message from Bob perhaps and there should be no more confusion about whether or not marijuana is effective for cancer patients, at least not in his case. Doctors recommended amputation after they discovered a malignant melanoma in Marley’s toe, he refused on religious grounds. Bob was a devout Rastafarian The cancer then spread and ultimately caused his death. Bob died of cancer (brain, liver, stomach, lungs) on May 11, 1981. He was buried on his home turf in Jamaica along with a soccer ball, his Gibson Les Paul guitar and of course….a bud of marijuana.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-05   17:22:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Operation 40 (#64) (Edited)

I agree that a lot of potheads want to promote Jesus Christ as using cannabis....you just did!

Jesus was almost certainly a cannabis user.

I am not a student of the Bible, so perhaps someone who is can show were the Bible specifically names marijuana. Or, can you? And is there any recorded events that describes a person smoking pot?

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-05   17:26:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Operation 40 (#64)

Jesus Christ and his apostles may have used cannabis…

I don’t believe I can go along with you in your belief that recreational use of marijuana would be absolutely appealing to Jesus. When I think about it, being drunk from wine is a sin (I believe that is clearly indicated), and grapes are natural fruits….so then why wouldn’t smoking pot also be a sin since it too alters your state of mind?

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-05   17:42:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Operation 40 (#64)

Some will point out that the Bible says God gave us herbs for us to use.

That may be true, but I don’t think they can point to a verse where he said we could smoke them for recreational use….is there? You presented an excessive gross amount of copy and paste….I don’t have time to read it all. Can you therefore please help me by pointing to the actual scripture for smoking pot. Is there one at all? If you show me that, then I will know there is no serious diluting and twisting of scriptures by anyone trying to apply faulty logic

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-05   17:55:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Operation 40 (#64)

CHRISTIANS & POT: A HIGH HOLY HISTORY

Doesn’t the Bible say something like whatever we do, we should glorify God? If so, I see God as wanting us to be sober-minded and holy….not having a marijuana high on all day and fighting drug addiction. Of course, I may be wrong….but I hope not.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-05   18:01:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Operation 40 (#65) (Edited)

(Jesus) didn’t smoke pot….did he?

I don't think Jesus would have told parents to drug their kids up on Ritalin, Oxycontin or Xanax.
And I don't think Jesus would have called Cannabis a "Drug".

I agree with you on the Ritalin, Oxycontin and Xanax.

But, Jesus never called anything “Cannabis. Therefore, your supposition is faulty logic on the Cannabis.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-05   18:23:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: redleghunter (#39)

Straight from the Apple website under employment header:

Drug-Free Workplace

Apple is a drug-free workplace. Employees are prohibited from manufacturing, distributing, dispensing, possessing, using, or being under the influence of illegal drugs, inhalants, or controlled substances in the workplace. Any employee who violates this policy will be subject to disciplinary action up to and including termination of employment.

http://www.apple.com/jobs/us/accommodation_drugfree.html

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-05-05   18:44:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Gatlin (#65)

there should be no more confusion about whether or not marijuana is effective for cancer patients,

Every claim that Cannabis kills THC is based on eating the herb- after heating and extraction with oil or naptha or similar. No one knew about Hemp Oil and eating cannabinoids then. So the claim above is nonsense.The author doesn't have a clue.

they discovered a malignant melanoma in Marley’s toe

Even you might find it curious that this toe cancer developed a few months after the son of CIA Director William Colby gave Bob a pair of boots. That's right- you read that correctly. The son of CIA Director Colby gave Bob a pair of boots.

...Only a handful of Marley’s most trusted comrades knew of the band’s whereabouts before the festival. Yet a member of the film crew, or so he claimed – reportedly, he didn’t have a camera – managed to talk his way past machete-bearing Rastas to enter the Hope Road encampment: one Carl Colby, son of the late CIA director William Colby.

While the band prepared for the concert, a gift was delivered, according to a witness at the enclave – a pair of boots for Bob Marley. Former Los Angeles cinematographer Lee Lew-Lee [his camera work can be seen in the Oscar-winning documentary The Panama Deception] was close friends with members of the Wailers, and he believes that Marley’s cancer can be traced to the boots: “He put his foot in and said, ‘Ow!’ A friend got in there… he said, ‘let’s [get] in the boot, and he pulled a length of copper wire out – it was embedded in the boot.”...snip
http://www.hightimes.com/read/chanting-down-babylon-cia-death-bob-marley

"Rasta don't work for no CIA" --The Honourable Robert Nesta Marley O.M.

Operation 40  posted on  2015-05-05   19:21:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Gatlin (#66) (Edited)

were the Bible specifically names marijuana. Or, can you?

Keneh bosem - Exodus 30:23

"The Holy Anointing Oil"

In 1936, a little known Polish Professor, Sara Benetowa (later Sula Benet), did extensive etymological research, showing that both the Aramaic and Hebrew versions of the Old Testament contained references to cannabis as a fiber for rope and cloth, as well as an incense. But most pre-eminently, hemp was the active ingredient in the Holy anointing oil of the ancient Hebrews, a practice likely adopted alongside with their god, from the earlier cult of Dagon/Ea/Enki/Oannes. Referring to the Hebrew word Q'aneh-Bosm (also translated Kaneh-Bosm, and Kineboisin), Benet stated in a later essay;

"The sacred character or Hemp in biblical times is evident from Exodus 30:22- 23, where Moses was instructed by God to anoint the meeting tent and all its furnishings with specially prepared oil, containing hemp. Anointing set sacred things apart from secular. The anointment of sacred objects was an ancient tradition in Israel; holy oil was not to be used for secular purposes... above all, the anointing oil was used for the installation rites of all Hebrew kings and priests." (Benet, 1975)...MORE
http://www.herbmuseum.ca/content/keneh-bosem-exodus-3023

Search Keneh-Bosem

http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox&q=keneh-bosem

Operation 40  posted on  2015-05-05   19:26:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: redleghunter, nolu chan, y'all (#51)

They're only winning in the 'cultures' that don't matter. -- We've regained control in congress, and are about to get the presidency; -- and your fears about SCOTUS opinions are baseless. - Who cares if queers call themselves 'married', or if the weirdos smoke pot? We're about to restore constitutional principles in the USA, and some Cassandras are stuck in the weeds crying 'woe is us'.

I wouldn't count those presidential chickens before they hatch. The GOP has something like 10-14 people announced or to be announced. Latest is Fiorna and today Huckabee. --- All that money going in 14 different directions. Big money coming out for Jeb Bush. This looks to be a GOP repeat of 2012.

All the money in America isn't going to elect Hillary, or any other socialist. People are getting scared of big brother, and will elect a constitutionalist..

On pot? I don't want people telling lies that 'pot is good for you.' Just as I don't want to hear the lies that 'alcohol is good for you.' Kids and teens don't need to hear those lies.

No one is saying booze or drugs are good for you. They're realising that prohibitions are BAD for our liberties.

I do agree with you that parents are the main force in educating their children and teens on values, drugs, healthy living. To include making themselves examples for their children. However, the bombardment of a society out of control, an immoral nation takes its toll on everyone.

That'll end with the coming economic crash. When the lights go out, the uneducated, 'immoral' mobs will die. -- Bet on it.

On SCOTUS? What the heck are they doing ruling on legalizing perversions? That alone is an indicator our society has taken the deep dive in the pit of no return.

The opinions of the SCOTUS about 'perversions' can, and WILL be ignored. Why you people are all worried about what queers call their living arrangements puzzles me.

The 14th is being used to defend the 1st and 2nd. The discussion Chan and I had about the 14th stopped when Chan ran out of 'great detail', -- you seem to think he won some great debate. -- I doubt he does..

tpaine  posted on  2015-05-05   19:36:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Gatlin (#68)

I don’t have time to read it all.

Exactly who do you think you're kidding here? You've got all the time in the world. Anyone who lurks here knows that. Jesus. (So to speak)

Operation 40  posted on  2015-05-05   19:37:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Operation 40 (#72)

Even you might find it curious ...

Ah, the old "Bob Marley was assassinated by the CIA" conspiracy theory.

Wait a minute...

Okay, go ahead...

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-05   19:38:39 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Gatlin (#76)

I know, you've got no time to read it.

ROFL

Operation 40  posted on  2015-05-05   19:45:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Operation 40 (#73)

Search Keneh-Bosum

This is what I said: ...and he (Jesus) didn’t smoke pot….did he?

Then you went into your duck for cover and spin mode.

I still ask you if Jesus smoked pot?

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-05   19:45:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: CZ82 (#71)

What hypocrites!

"For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb.” (Psalm 139:13)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-05-06   0:33:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: redleghunter (#79)

What hypocrites!

You don't expect Leftists to grow up do you?

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-05-06   7:09:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Operation 40 (#64)

BBC: Cannabis linked to Biblical healing

Do you believe this nonsense jw?

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-05-06   7:46:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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