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Title: Let me ask all of you some questions:
Source: www.ChristianPatriot.com
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Published: Apr 22, 2015
Author: Pastor Bob Celeste ACP
Post Date: 2015-04-22 14:58:34 by BobCeleste
Keywords: ACP
Views: 14033
Comments: 102

Let me ask all of you some questions:

1. Do you think today’s preachers are smarter, as smart or not as Scripturally smart as Preachers in the 1770's?

2. Do you think today’s politicians are smarter, as smart, or not as smart Constitutionally as politicians in the 1770's and the first days of our Republic?

3. If Revolution were legal, acceptable and encourage by both the politicians of the colonies and the preachers of the colonies in the 1770's, why is it unacceptable, and discouraged by both the preachers and the politicians today?

4. If Romans chapter 13 was not a problem to Christians revolting against the crown in the 1770's why is it today?

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2. Do you think today’s politicians are smarter, as smart, or not as smart Constitutionally as politicians in the 1770's and the first days of our Republic?

In the 1770's the Constitution did not exist. It was ratified in 1789.

With regard to the system of government intended by the Founders and Framers of that era, the Founders and Framers were a great deal more observant of what some may now refer to as original intent. The centuries of politicians that followed have undermined, hollowed out, and interpreted much of the original intent into extinction. Assuming the Framers intended to create a Constitution which would prevent an all-powerful Federal government, in a perverse way, I guess the politicians that followed proved they were smarter and/or more devious and unscrupulous and corrupt than the Framers. The Hamiltonians have prevailed.

3. If Revolution were legal, acceptable and encourage[d] by both the politicians of the colonies and the preachers of the colonies in the 1770's, why is it unacceptable, and discouraged by both the preachers and the politicians today?

In the 1770's, the "right" to revolution was recognized as such by those who desired to overthrow existing power and seize that power for themselves. Such "right" was not recognized in the 1770's by those who were in power. Such right is not recognized by those in power today. Those in power call it treason. Had the Founders lost the Revolutionary War, they would be in the history books as traitors who were hanged for their great crime.

Lincoln was all for the right of revolution (as a congressman) until he was against it (as President).

Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln, Vol. I, pp. 438-439, Speech in United States House of Representatives: The War with Mexico. [emphasis as in original]

Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable,—a most sacred right—a right, which we hope and believe, is to liberate the world. Nor is this right confined to cases in which the whole people of an existing government, may choose to exercise it. Any portion of such people that can, may revolutionize, and make their own, of so much of the teritory (sic) as they inhabit. More than this, a majority of any portion of such people may revolutionize, putting down a minority, intermingled with, or near about them, who may oppose their movement. Such minority, was precisely the case, of the tories of our own revolution. It is a quality of revolutions not to go by old lines, or old laws; but to break up both, and make new ones.

4. If Romans chapter 13 was not a problem to Christians revolting against the crown in the 1770's why is it today?

The Bible and all else is useful when it supports what someone wants, or if they can bend it or misrepresent it to support what they want, or oppose what they do not want.

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4. If Romans chapter 13 was not a problem to Christians revolting against the crown in the 1770's why is it today?

The Bible and all else is useful when it supports what someone wants, or if they can bend it or misrepresent it to support what they want, or oppose what they do not want.

So, tell me your take on Romans 3, feel free to go into as much detail as you can.

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