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Title: Are You Going To Suck Them Off Too Rubio?
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URL Source: http://news.asiaone.com/news/world/ ... io-reaches-out-gay-republicans
Published: Apr 22, 2015
Author: Reuters
Post Date: 2015-04-22 07:34:58 by A K A Stone
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Views: 2955
Comments: 13

US presidential hopeful Marco Rubio reaches out to gay Republicans - See

NEW YORK - Marco Rubio, the youthful Republican presidential hopeful who touts himself as the candidate of his party's future, has been making moves to court a socially liberal faction of his party that represents gay conservatives. The Florida senator's staff have held quarterly meetings with the Log Cabin Republicans "going back some time", their executive director, Gregory Angelo, told Reuters. The meetings with the advocacy group were to discuss legislation, issues and opportunities to "partner on," Angelo said. Rubio's office declined to comment on the meetings. The discussions highlight the tricky electoral math for Republican presidential aspirants like Rubio. The Republican party will struggle to win the White House in 2016 if it relies only on the support of socially conservative voters. At the same time, presidential candidates will battle to win their party's nomination without those voters, who often dominate state primaries, or early voting contests.

That tension is starkly apparent on gay marriage. For years, staunch opposition to gay marriage was a reliably safe strategy for Republican candidates. No longer. Facing an electorate that has sharply altered its views on the issue since the turn of the century, even Rubio, who has long opposed gay marriage, has softened his rhetoric, saying last week that he would attend a gay wedding of a loved one. And then in an interview with CBS's "Face the Nation" on Sunday he said he believed "that sexual preference is something that people are born with" and is not a choice for most people. While those kinds of comments might help win votes in the general election if he becomes the Republican nominee, they have the potential to antagonize the conservative Republican base he needs to win the primary, party activists said. "To the right it sounds mealy mouthed, and to the left sounds patronizing," said Martin Cothran, a senior policy analyst for the socially conservative Family Foundation of Kentucky. CHANGE IN ATTITUDES Rubio risks alienating people like Bob Vander Plaats, the head of The Family Leader in Iowa, whose endorsement is coveted by many Republican presidential hopefuls each election cycle. "There's a lot to like about Marco Rubio," Vander Plaats told Reuters. Vander Plaats said he wanted to hear specific strategies from the Republican candidates on how to fight gay marriage. Any attempts to straddle the issue would be a problem for him, he added. While calling attendance at a gay wedding a personal decision, "I probably wouldn't be going" to a same-sex ceremony, he said. "That shows me endorsing and supporting something that I frankly really disagree with." Rubio, a Roman Catholic who often talks about his faith, has long defined marriage as between a man and a woman and said that it should be left to the states to regulate marriage. Asked whether his comments over the past week represented a softening in his views, a Rubio spokeswoman, Brooke Sammon, said his position was "clear and well-established." The Log Cabin Republicans' Angelo said, however, that Rubio was "not as adamantly opposed to all things LGBT as some of his statements suggest." The staff meetings did not include Rubio, he said. The group has also met with Republican presidential contenders: former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina earlier this year and Senator Rand Paul and Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, both in 2013. Paul has sought to differentiate between traditional marriage and civil contracts, while Walker said at the weekend he had attended a wedding reception for a gay relative. Efforts by Rubio, Paul and Walker to add nuance to their views on gay marriage could play well with some younger Republicans, even if it proves unpopular with social conservatives. Among likely Republican primary voters, 68 per cent oppose gay marriage, according to Reuters/Ipsos data. By contrast, 49 per cent of Republicans aged 18 to 29 support same-sex marriage, while 41 per cent oppose it and 10 per cent are undecided. The split is much higher among all Americans 18 to 29, regardless of political affiliation. Seventy-eight per cent support gay marriage, with 15 per cent opposed and 7 per cent unsure. Data from the Pew Research Center show how quickly that change has come about: In 2003, 51 per cent of people born in 1981 or later supported gay marriage. By 2014, that number had jumped to 67 per cent. "It would be a very stupid move, in my opinion, politically for the party or the candidates to hold onto" opposition to gay marriage, said Pat Brady, a former chairman of the Illinois Republican party. Brady stepped down from the post in 2013 in part because of his stance on same sex marriage. Even among many Democrats, attitudes have only recently changed. Hillary Clinton herself, the Democratic front runner, has a history of distancing herself from the issue. "For me, marriage had always been a matter left to the states," she said in an NPR interview last year. But this month, Clinton issued a statement saying she hopes the Supreme Court rules in favour of same-sex marriage. On April 28, the justices will hear oral arguments on whether there is a constitutional right to gay marriage. A ruling is expected in June. With that case pending, gay marriage is almost certain to come up an event on Saturday hosted by the Iowa Faith & Freedom Coalition. Among the speakers will be senators Rubio, Paul and Ted Cruz, as well as Walker and other Republican hopefuls. - See more at: http://news.asiaone.com/news/world/us-presidential-hopeful- marco-rubio-reaches-out-gay-republicans#sthash.zqr4Jixq.dpuf

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#1. To: All (#0)

"There's a lot to like about Marco Rubio," Vander Plaats told Reuters

No there isn't. He is a piece of shit.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-04-22   7:36:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: A K A Stone (#1)

He (Rubio) is a piece of shit.

They all are. The sooner you understand that, the better off you'll be.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
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Deckard  posted on  2015-04-22   8:14:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Actually, there is quite a race on how quickly GOP candidates will pop out of the gay marriage closet. Even Rick Perry is getting in on it.

You'll only have a few candidates who won't "evolve" suddenly. Maybe Carson and Huckabee and Santorum and Graham.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-04-22   8:43:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Deckard (#2)

He (Rubio) is a piece of shit. They all are. The sooner you understand that, the better off you'll be.

Does that mean you too? Because that is what all means.

If you only mean elected officials. What gene causes that?

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-04-22   8:58:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: TooConservative (#3)

I would never vote for someone who tells me that I must pretend that two men can be married. It doesn't compute here.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-04-22   8:59:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone (#0)

" Are You Going To Suck Them Off Too Rubio? "

If he thought he could get a couple of votes for it, I bet he would.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-04-22   9:09:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone (#1)

GeeOpie: What happens now?
Scott Toomey: Well, now, uh, Ken Mehlman, R. Clarke Cooper, Meghan McCain, Mary Cheney and I wait until nightfall, and then leap out of the Fithcally Conthervative log cabin, taking The Party(tm) by surprise -- not only by surprise, but totally unarmed!
GeeOpie: Who leaps out?
Scott Toomey: Uh, Ken Mehlman,  R. Clarke Cooper, Meghan McCain, Mary Cheney and I. Uh, leap out of the log cabin, uh and uh....
GeeOpie: Oh....
Scott Toomey: Oh.... Um, l-look, if we built this large wooden Rhinocerous -- [twong]
ALL:  Run
away!  Run away!  Run away!  Run away!
      [splat]
 
NO SALE.

VxH  posted on  2015-04-22   9:16:13 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: TooConservative (#3) (Edited)

Perry has always been a lib-pandering RINO arsehole.
 
 
swin·dle (swndl)
v. swin·dled, swin·dling, swin·dles
v.tr.
1. To cheat or defraud of money or property.
2. To obtain by fraudulent means: swindled money from the company.
v.intr.
To practice fraud as a means of obtaining money or property.
n.
The act or an instance of swindling.
 
 
Mozilo's Countrywide had been the first to embrace the homeownership push back in 1995 and had therefore become
a central player in Clinton's public-private partnership.
 
And since 1998, Countrywide had also become crucial to the fortunes of Fannie Mae, and the personal wealth of Fannie employees who received special mortgage deals from the lender...
--Reckless Endangerment; pg 182
 
 
"Angelo Mozilo, thank you"
--Governor Ricar(D)o Perry
--Tuesday, December 14, 2004
 
 

VxH  posted on  2015-04-22   9:19:43 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: A K A Stone (#5) (Edited)

I would never vote for someone who tells me that I must pretend that two men can be married. It doesn't compute here.

Then voting is going to become something you do less of. Increasingly, you won't have any candidates who aren't on the same-sex bandwagon. The Supremes will almost certainly nationalize gay marriage shortly and it will be law of the land via the Full Faith And Credit doctrine.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-04-22   9:47:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A K A Stone (#5)

would never vote for someone who tells me that I must pretend that two men can be married.

You already voted for gay marriage Mitt, didn't you? He signed lots of queer licenses. Now Rubio wants your vote too.

You asked for it.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-04-22   12:08:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: hondo68 (#10)

Stone needs to change his screen name to Ben Dover.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-04-22   12:17:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: TooConservative (#9)

Then voting is going to become something you do less of. Increasingly, you won't have any candidates who aren't on the same-sex bandwagon. The Supremes will almost certainly nationalize gay marriage shortly and it will be law of the land via the Full Faith And Credit doctrine.

Yep. Just like abortion.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-04-23   8:27:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Vicomte13 (#12)

Yep. Just like abortion.

Not really. One party is pro-life, the other is avowedly and proudly pro-abortion.

You like to pretend these are identical positions but you can't even fool yourself. Because they aren't.

BTW, Santorum is running again. Or isn't he still pro-life enough for you?

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-04-23   8:35:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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