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Title: Coming To America (Neil Diamond's Anthem)
Source: utoob
URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRTHdC7k4uY
Published: Apr 18, 2015
Author: Johnny Kim
Post Date: 2015-04-18 10:33:52 by Liberator
Keywords: Immigration, legal, NeilDiamond
Views: 11344
Comments: 36


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As a school project, some students honor America's welcoming arm to immigrants -- presumably, LEGAL ones. Excellent job with their photos as choice of song. Pretty touching tribute....

My ancestors all entered through Ellis Island. Must have been daunting but at the same time absolutely awesome entering New York Harbor and seeing the Statue of Liberty as a symbolic of hope for the future.

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#3. To: Liberator (#0)

presumably, LEGAL ones

Thanks for posting.

And isn't it revealing how the dialogue has been subtly changed in public discourse? Now, if you're having problems with open borders and people coming into the country from who knows where with a who knows what agenda, YOU are the one with the problem.

But since their arrival advances the aims of the Ruling Class (providing cheap labor for the R branch and reliable votes for the D branch), it's all cool.

Rufus T Firefly  posted on  2015-04-18   11:19:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Rufus T Firefly (#3)

Thanks for posting.

And isn't it revealing how the dialogue has been subtly changed in public discourse? Now, if you're having problems with open borders and people coming into the country from who knows where with a who knows what agenda, YOU are the one with the problem.

You're welcome, brutha.

Yes, amazing ain't it? Especially that the dialogue or discourse promoted by the Left has now succeeded to the point where it's considered near-criminal to unfurl the American flag, exhibit patriotism, AND insist immigration laws be enforced.

Since their arrival advances the aims of the Ruling Class (providing cheap labor for the R branch and reliable votes for the D branch), it's all cool.

The Ruling Class elites are about globalism and destroying American sovereignty as well as the American middle class. Traitors used to be hung. Now there's a celebration at the Rose Garden on their behalf.

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-18   12:37:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Liberator (#7)

The Ruling Class elites are about globalism and destroying American sovereignty as well as the American middle class. Traitors used to be hung. Now there's a celebration at the Rose Garden on their behalf.

You're exactly right.

I wonder why that has happened, though.

While some of us are simple or two-dimensional, I venture to say most are intelligent. We have the capability to do the right thing - IF WE ARE presented with facts (not just platitudes and sound-bites). And yes - the media (charged with providing FACTS) is biased and broken. Has been for years.

Why did we let that happen?

Our public schools (and now most colleges and universities) and not centers of learning; rather they are places of indoctrination. They have been that way for years - possibly since the end of WWII.

Why did we let that happen?

Our political system is broken and corrupt and, contrary to the opinions of some, has been that way since long before George W. Bush. The Constitution (and its Amendment process) was a precious gift, yet we no longer live under it.

Why did we let that happen?

Oh well, such is the way of Man, I suppose. Perhaps it's true that wealth and affluence is a two-edged sword - causing people to become fat,dumb, and lazy

Once again, thanks for posting. My ancestors (I got into doing genealogies a while back) came mostly from Ireland, Scotland, France and England. Some were already here to meet the boats.

A real (American) mix.

Rufus T Firefly  posted on  2015-04-18   13:04:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Rufus T Firefly (#9)

We have the capability to do the right thing - IF WE ARE presented with facts (not just platitudes and sound-bites). And yes - the media (charged with providing FACTS) is biased and broken. Has been for years.

Our public schools (and now most colleges and universities) and not centers of learning; rather they are places of indoctrination. They have been that way for years - possibly since the end of WWII.

Our political system is broken and corrupt and, contrary to the opinions of some, has been that way since long before George W. Bush. The Constitution (and its Amendment process) was a precious gift, yet we no longer live under it.

Why did we let that happen?

Great rant.

I'd like to excuse our tolerance (of who are plainly victims of evil) as a matter of frogs gradually boiling. I'd LIKE to, but CAN'T. We've seen the body politic (even those supposedly "representing" us), schools, and media colluding now for decades.

Isn't it odd that we -- the majority who are conservative, possess common sense, are moralist (if not Christian), and consider ourselves patriots who "play by the rules" -- are lied to, ignored, maligned, slandered, and abused by the our own government, schools, and media?

Despite 40 straight years of this institutional subversion, as a group we NEVER band together as one great passionate and PO'd tidal wave of righteousness to protest this betrayal of treason, UN-Americanism, lies, and propaganda? Why haven't WE demanded justice and an end to the BS??

IS it because we've been conditioned like Pavlov's dogs? Been conditioned by media, schools, and government to feel guilt over our supposed "intolerance"? To be self-loathing masochists? Do we imagine ourselves paying some kind of "penance" for some imagined offense to the rest of the world?

OR...maybe it is that the PTB let us have juuust enough bread and circuses to keep us...content...yet accept our status still CAGED CAPTIVES AND SCAPEGOATS.

Such is the way of Man, I suppose. Perhaps it's true that wealth and affluence is a two-edged sword - causing people to become fat,dumb, and lazy.

Your answer is more likely the case in one short, simple answer to a bunch of loaded questions. The worst part -- the piper is yet to be paid in full. In the meantime, we grab another beer, tear open another bag of chips, and turn on the game....until someone blows the whistle of our own "game." At that point we'll all form an orderly line and march straight over the cliff like lemmings.

Once again, thanks for posting. My ancestors (I got into doing genealogies a while back) came mostly from Ireland, Scotland, France and England. Some were already here to meet the boats. A real (American) mix.

Again, you're very welcome my friend and brother. I share your frustration and incredulity in our situation. Blessedly, I reckon we both recognize that our real and true sovereignty will not be of this world in any case.

Yup -- your genealogical roots...VERY "American." How far back were you able to track your ancestors?

Half my son's roots are basically the same as yours -- Irish, Scottish, French. His mother's family tree was traced back to the late 1600s. Mine were Ellis Island refugees from Sicily and Naples, respectively. :-) Very humble roots, but overcame by the second generation.

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-18   15:24:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Liberator (#16)

How far back were you able to track your ancestors?

My English surname (dad's side) - back to a g-g-grandfather born between 1815-1820 in "New York" (that I got from the 1840 census, city not specified). Nothing on him or his predecessors before that - maybe he landed from Mars :-)

But in my dad's family, they apparently had a tradition of naming their children (middle names) after ancestors. My dad's brother (my uncle) had a middle name that was actually a Scottish surname. When I was doing genealogies, I had an "aha" moment when I discovered that same surname was my g-g-grandmother's maiden name (she married that same g-g-grandfather I mentioned earlier in 1837)

That brought on some fascinating stuff. That Scottish family kept tremendous records and journals - many of which are now on-line. Couple of the things I "discovered" - the family traveled by covered wagon across what was then the Pennsylvania wilderness - from eastern (around Philly) to what is now Pittsburgh. That took place probably in the late 1700s to the early 1800s. Their records go all the way back to the 1500s in the Kintayre (sp?) peninsula area of SW Scotland.

On my moms and her mom's side, I discovered I had a g-g-grandfather who served in the Civil War (for the North, I think, but I'm not sure)

Great stuff - especially for history buffs

Rufus T Firefly  posted on  2015-04-19   13:04:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#26. To: Rufus T Firefly, Vicomte13 (#24)

My English surname (dad's side) - back to a g-g-grandfather born between 1815-1820 in "New York" (that I got from the 1840 census, city not specified). Nothing on him or his predecessors before that - maybe he landed from Mars :-)

Yeah, maybe GGG-Pappy wuz a martian slave, and a UFO ejected him into New Yawk to "help colonize that planet of xenophobes" :-) You've tracked your GGG's and surname pretty far back...NY but no record of city/town? That's far more than I can say of my own paternal side.

My dad's brother (my uncle) had a middle name that was actually a Scottish surname. When I was doing genealogies, I had an "aha" moment when I discovered that same surname was my g-g-grandmother's maiden name (she married that same g-g-grandfather I mentioned earlier in 1837)

Fun connecting those type of dots.

That Scottish family kept tremendous records and journals - many of which are now on-line. Couple of the things I "discovered" - the family traveled by covered wagon across what was then the Pennsylvania wilderness - from eastern (around Philly) to what is now Pittsburgh. That took place probably in the late 1700s to the early 1800s. Their records go all the way back to the 1500s in the Kintayre (sp?) peninsula area of SW Scotland.

That's awesome. Your ancestors help colonize outer-fringe of the colonies at a time when it was dangerous going. That you can actually track family back into the 1500s...amazing.

Vicomte13 has also been able to track his own ancestry fairly deep into his European past....and with great detail.

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-19 18:04:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Rufus T Firefly (#24)

On my moms and her mom's side, I discovered I had a g-g-grandfather who served in the Civil War (for the North, I think, but I'm not sure)

Great stuff - especially for history buffs

That's always fascinating for history buffs...BUT, you've GOT to get to the bottom of which side he fought on....because according to the liberal narrative, if he fought for the North, he's considered a "noble liberator" who "fought against slavery"; If he fought for the South, he's considered a "loser-redneck, fighting for slavery."

:-)

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