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Title: Technologically Challenged Cops Assault Teen then Try to Delete Video, They Failed
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Free Thought Project
URL Source: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/of ... e-footage/#DQu4R0QOsPKxoX0W.99
Published: Apr 9, 2015
Author: Cassandra Fairbanks
Post Date: 2015-04-11 00:51:35 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 16868
Comments: 62
Virginia Beach, VA– In January, 18-year-old Courtney Griffith was pulled over for the light on her license plate being out. Concerned by the officer’s aggressive behavior and knowing her rights, she propped her cell phone up on the dashboard to capture the incident. After brutalizing her 17-year-old friend and taking them both into custody, the officers attempted to delete the footage. Luckily, the video went to a “recently deleted” file on her iPhone and was able to be recovered. The young mother had just pulled into her driveway with the father of her child as well as her 17-year-old friend Brandon. As they turned in, police officers who were following her turned on their lights and pulled her over, citing the light above her license plate. One of the officers who pulled her over, Officer Pittman, was the same officer who had previously arrested her as a minor for possession of marijuana, something she maintains she no longer touches. Griffith believes that he had remembered her from their previous encounter. The officers proceeded to tell the teenagers that the vehicle smelled like marijuana and demand that the passengers step out of the vehicle. At this point, there were four cop cars on the scene over a broken license plate light and the alleged smell of marijuana. Brandon, being a minor, repeatedly requested that his parents be present. Griffith asks if she is being detained and the officers reply that she is. At this point, an officer moves the front passenger seat forward and instructs the teens to keep their hands visible at all times, after asking another officer to “go cover the driver.” The teenagers are asked to step out of the vehicle. Brandon continues to request his parents be present while Griffith is heard calling the officer out on being the same cop that had previously pulled her over. Things begin to escalate, and the sensible young woman requests a sergeant be present to avoid her rights being further infringed. An officer is heard grunting an order at Brandon and his eyes widen as he asks Griffith to make sure she is recording. As he is speaking, he is shot in the eyes with pepper spray. “I’m seventeen years old, stop!” he cries out as the pepper spray burns his eyes. He states that he is calling his mother and repeats that he is only a minor as the officers threaten to tase him. Moments later he is hit with another round of pepper spray and tased. As he cries out in pain, the officers continue to grunt at him to get out of the vehicle. “Get out, or you’re going to get it again!” the officer states. “Alright,” Brandon complies. As he begins to step out of the vehicle, he’s shot with another volt of electricity from the officer’s taser, seemingly for no reason at all. The officers begin beating him and screaming at him, continuing to escalate the situation and making things as hectic as possible. Brandon was ultimately tased four times. Eight cops were on the scene, with at least five of them involved in the assault on the unarmed teen. At the end of the video, you can see an officer looking around the vehicle with a flashlight and then shutting off the camera. Griffith told The Free Thought Project that this was the Sargent she had requested to come to the scene. She believes he is the one who attempted to delete the footage. “They arrested me, never Mirandized me or Brandon, and they sent me off with a summons. When I went back to my car, my phone had been brought off the dashboard and was on the drivers seat. I asked the cops who deleted the video, after looking for it in my folder, and they all started laughing. It was sickening. I later found it in my recently deleted folder,” Griffith told The Free Thought Project. Brandon is currently imprisoned until July on charges of assault and battery on a police officer and resisting arrest. Please share this story widely and message the Virginia Beach Police to demand they conduct an investigation into these officer’s actions.
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#1. To: Deckard (#0)
There is nothing better than reading about a Professional Kop beating a poor, wittle kid over a license plate issue on a Saturday.
A comment left on the better written article, in the local posting. "Danny", obvioudly is a little more knowledgeable about details than the FTP. "DANNY Hey WTKR maybe instead of trying to get ratings and hits on your website you should actually report the facts and the news, which again are supposed to be facts, not just the story of a video shown liar which is the girl, and the family trying to not tell the full story. How about reporting if police smell weed coming from your car they don’t need permission to search everywhere in your car, and the people in it for one. Secondly, instead of updating with more divisive facebook post, update it with the facts that WAVY news reported on so easily. First the Police found weed in the purse that they attached to the female in the video, you want to ask her about that, since she doesn’t allow weed in her vehicle? Secondly the 17 year old telling police he won’t get out till his mom is there, which again he doesn’t have a right for unless he is being interrogated, was charged with possession with intent to sell (thats more than just a joint on him), resisting arrest, and obstruction of justice. Thirdly the police were all ready aware of the use of force from the Tazer video, which is FOIA material, why don’t you get on that? Fourth we are to believe the claim of deleted video from a girl on video lying to police, secondly her Facebook is PUBLIC so I suggest you visit it. I could go on and on but I guess actually doing investigative reporting, and asking people on video that lie to police why they lied about the weed in their car is to hard hitting for you. I’ll also add that a simple case search on Virginia Court Case Information site and her name, shows that Public Defender TORGERSON handled her case, again why not see why it was truly dismissed. However, I doubt you will research any of that stuff of just update the simple facts of charges or ask why she lied to Police, or the fact that the guy who refused to get out to be searched didn’t want to get out because he had weed on him. Again don’t put the spotlight on the criminals in this case, put it on the Police. How disgusting is this attorney for comparing the murder of a fleeing man by a cop, to a punk drug carrying 17 year old mouthing off and getting the proper response to get him out the car.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
He was sitting on a felony amount of weed. You really bought his story that he couldn't get out of the car because his mommy wasn't there? lol He was putting on an academy award performance so officers wouldn't find the stash he was sitting on. There was a small amount of pot in the girls (driver) purse... you know, the girl that says there has never been pot in her car.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
yeah, that ebil weed really really required unprofessional actions by kestone kops with klubs to beat sense into the wittle kids.
Yeah, your PHD on constitutional law combined with your inside information on this case allows you your anarchist idiolgy and this writers yellow journalistic slant because you (and the writer) defend kriminals that kant understand konstitutionally tested kannabis laws because you've burnt out the brain cells in your karnium with Alex Jones koolaid.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Why did the cops attempt to delete the video if they were in the right? Oh, I know. Because they were shown beating, tasing and pepper-spraying a 17 year old kid who wasn't resisting.
What exactly *is* a kriminal, GrandIsland? Tell the chit-chat channel.
That's the only issue being investigated by the administration of this department. The video itself shows no impropriety in the use of force continuum used. Verbal, no comply, OC, no comply, taser, no comply... Hands on. It's actually text book, and the 17 year old wasn't reporting any injuries (even by your crappy news source). The chief already publicly stated he will charge (and fire) all the officers with tampering if he finds there is any truth to her claim... but Deckard, those officers have a right to DUE PROCESS of the allegations. You seem to pick and choose how much you support constitutional rights depending on if you hate someone or not. Some or all of them have been suspended from duty pending investigation. What more do you want? The Tasers have video as well. I didn't see them do anything wrong on her video... so i have no clue why they would delete it. You posted a video of two liars, Both had an illegal substance, regardless if you think it should be legal, ITS NOT, PERIOD. All supported by yellow journalism. I have no clue why you risk your credibility over such garbage when there is actual corrupt LE incidents that are reported with credibility (like the SC shooting in the back). You never cease to amaze me.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
A 17 year old kannabis possessing, Kan't follow the law brat that thinks he has a konstitutional right to his mommy before the Kops kan find his felony amount of Kannabis... = "kriminal"
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Your lexicon seems a wee bit biased for a retired, kid skool patrol guard. What is your problem with non-violent behaviour by the obvious victims while you defend the literal terrorist approach of a police state attempting to OVERPOWER little kids?
Non violent behavior can still be deemed illegal AND constitutionally sound... even if your anarchist, hippie tree hugging feeling are hurt by this ideal. This was non violent... until the 17 year old forced it to be violent. He was given a non violent VERBAL command to exit the car. Had he complied, the whole incident would have been non violent. The CHOICE was his. You lose any credibility by defending the defenseless... but then again, being Anonymous, you don't KARE.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
There was no "choice" even by your own admission. It was an order by the POLICE STATE.
Once again - if the cops did nothing wrong, why try to delete the evidence?
There was PC to give that order (and later marijuana found, so their PC was accurate) It was his duty to follow that command.... all done by the constitutional book... but you still don't like it because you love your Kannabis. 6 officers dealing with two resistors is hardly a "police state". You'd keep more Kredibility if you'd just argue on threads about drug laws... not defending obvious Kriminal behavior and uncivil civilian actions... but you don't Kare how stupid you look, you are anonymous
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
It was deleted because the female driver said so? Is that what you base your whole credibility on? She wouldn't lie... LMAO... remember, there has never been pot in her vehicle... exceptin her purse on on momma's little boy.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
...Kriminal ...but you don't Kare how stupid you look Oh, the irony!
Oh right, I forgot. In GrandIsland police state, cops never lie.
Oh right, I forgot. In GrandIsland police state, cops never lie. And in your anarchist world, suspects never lie. And we know how truthful the female driver was. LOL
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
...but you don't Kare how stupid you look Oh, the irony! Were you not smart enough to see how your doppelgänger, Bucky, spells Kops & Klubs? Then again, you've always displayed hypocracy. lol
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Duty by a US Citizen to obey a "command" issued by a local yahoo, keystone kop that graduated from POLICE STATE AKADEMY... where is that written in the US Constitution? Call OVERWHELMING FORCE by any other name, "terrorist" ... "police state" etc. Simply said, you don't seem to understand the unwarranted violence perpetrated upon civilians by a well known police state practices. By any other name, a kop is a fuckin' terrorist.
Even I wanted to smack that punk around after listening to his smart mouth! How many times did he say, "I'm 17 years-old"? - about 25 times is my guesstimate.
Seems as though you have a repressed violent urge against little kids. Have you consulted an 0bama voodoo docktor?
No, just mouthy ones who wear knit caps in warm weather.
The 4th amendment is a guaranteed right of yours absent PROBABLE CAUSE... and a guaranteed right for the police to your persons and property if you should supply that PROBABBLE CAUSE. TO WIT, LE smelled pot in the car. TO WIT, pot was found. TO WIT; the officers actions were condtitutionally PROTECTED. Those potheads Kan either Komply with a constitutionally lawfull order to get out of the Kar or be tased. Your Konstitutional sKolarship is showing. lol
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
You can either live or die by the 4th amendment, Bucky. It's not a guaranteed right to break the law. Sometimes it helps the police... LIKE HERE. lol
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Oh, the ONES that require POLICE STATE REPRESSION, in America.
I guess a minor lite bulb deemed non working lead to a POLICE STATE MENTALITY to ensure beating little kids. yeah, that's PROBABLE CAUSE!
Cops claiming they "smell" weed in the car could have been a fabrication on their part. It's a convenient alibi, since if they don't find any they can always claim, well, that they honestly thought they did and then the search is justified. Cops may also have planted weed in her purse after the stop. Cops planting evidence is not unheard of. Knowing the girl had a prior incident with weed would make planting weed fairly safe for them to do. If the cop stopped the camera from video recording, then that is something he had no reason nor right to do, regardless of whether he went further and attempted to delete it. Do whatever search is truly justified, but don't shut off recording devices. Attempting to delete the vid, if true, would constitute tampering and/or destruction of evidence, a crime if done by anyone, including of course cops. Seems to me the use of the tazer was excessive, that after the first zap (regardless of whether that was appropriate) the kid was zapped again after he began to get out, in spite of there being about zero warning. Cops said to get out, he said, "alright" and began to move, and was zapped again. I've seen that before, where cops zap someone just as the person begins to comply, since that's the cop's last chance to harm the person involved. Why was pepper spray employed? I can see pepper spray being used to stop someone who is attempting to get physical, which this kid was not, even if he was mouthy. Same for tazing, actually. The kid was charged with assault and battery, and resisting arrest, apparently for actions that occurred AFTER he was pepper sprayed and tazed. How much of one's reaction, during and after being tazed and pepper sprayed, in the presence of numerous cops while being himself grabbed and forced to the ground in an escalated situation can be considered voluntary? To me the vid shows cops escalating the situation unnecessarily. And it all starts over the horrible crime of a license plate bulb allegedly being out? I'd like to see the police dash cam on this one.
It is a civil responsibility to react against state terrorism in America. Or did you not read the US Declaration of Independence? The citizenry are not obedient slaves to any government in America whether you like it or not based on your police akademy two month course about how to hide behind a donut and a free cup o' koffee.
If there was a real police state in this country, you'd be shackled to Deckard in some jail cell, trying to make to roll cigarettes with toilet paper while Deckard licks them, by now... so enough of your drama.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
You make good points, especially the one about the initial reason for the stop, a license plate light out. That man shot to death in the back in SC had his third brake light out as the reason for his stop.
Based on your definition? HAAAAAAAA Let me know how the world in you head works out for you.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Hey donut man, don't make phun about Deckard. You can rant all you want against his posts but there is merit about the posting. If you were to even open your eyes for a second, you could look around the INET just as he performs and see that there is a serious problem in America about a POLICE STATE MENTALITY.
absolutely correct. Yes it could. So what do you suggest. Because an officers senses "could be fabricated, has been fabricated in past history or isn't 100% proven by you on a polical forum, they shouldn't be allowed to use them for PC? At some point, all it looks like you desire isn't what is right or wrong... just how laws can be violated without detection.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
GrandIsland: Based on your definition? HAAAAAAAA OK, it all based on GrandIsland's two month and all tax payer course @POLICE AKADEMY SKOOLING to ensure POLICE STATE definitions ensure plenty of donut eating & koffee slurping from impeding individual liberties even for a burn't out lite bulb.
Like two people recording themselves saying there is no weed in the car... and both have it... AND THE ARTICLE WITH "MERIT" DECLINES TO WRITE ABOUT THAT? You are Kunfused what "merit" is if you base "merit" on these two Einstein's or almost any FTP article.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Bucky, there are only three sides of law. Enforcing, defending and prosecuting. I've spent 20 years enforcing. What's your experience with law besides breaking it? lol And my basic was 6 months.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
From a "lite bulb" to "marijuana" to what next? Probable tax evasion to pay your state pension for being a retired skool cross guard that may have beaten little kids for having no free donuts in their lunch pails that you personally confiscated and eat on the spot. You really like jelly donuts, don't ya?
What I suggest is doing away with laws that don't serve any public good, such as outlawing a plant that's been growing on this earth long before the alphabet was invented. When cops deal with real crimes that actually have victims then, issues of probable cause hold a lot more water.
WOW ... Very impressive; six months on how to buff a brass badge with BRASSO was just a natural instinct, wasn't it? What was your score beyond donut eater and koffee slurper?
yeah, that's PROBABLE CAUSE! The light deficiency was PC for the stop... the smell of weed was PC to remove all occupants and search the occupants and all reachable areas of the car. You can't be this law ignorant... can you? No wonder you remain Anonymous. lol
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Then you and Bucky can start a new thread and chit-chat about your OPINIONS. Has nothing to do with this poorly written article or the officers conduct.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Yeah, all infractions for non-violent crime REQUIRE EXCESSIVE POLICE FORCE in America. I understand your opinion, punk.
Good job on this thread. Why are these people dying on this hill? Another 17 year old punk makes his own bed, and suddenly every cop is Darth Vader. I understand over-officious cops are out there who deserve a bunch of flack, but man....
Stupid question. Impossible to answer without my crystal ball. Every case is different. With a sharp, on the ball officer, anything is possible with 17 year old potheads that are double digit IQ constitutional scholars, like you. lol
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Go eat a free jelly filled donut and slurp a kup o' koffee from a local 0bama imported chink give-a-way based on your patrol.
You made your own bed by voting for a police state, lib.
There was just 5 or 6 officers dealing with two resistors.... how is that an "excessive AMERICA"? You are a drama queen, trashing up a poorly written article with your anarchic opinions on what kind of lawless country america should be. Start a new thread on Buckys dream world.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Good job on this thread. He does deserve what he gets... and if the officers erased or deleted her video, they deserve the same as this kid. Arrest. Thanks.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
I'm retired, Bucky. If you can't keep up with simple details, how will you keep up with legal discussions?
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Six gun toting keystone kops with klubs picking on a couple of kids? Yeah, it was easy pickens for these terrorists enforcing their law about a burnt out lite bulb. ?
You are not retired. You are milking the system living on a government pension, sucker.
Bet he still gets "professional courtesy" from his fellow cops for speeding and any other "crime" he commits. "If you're not cop, you're little people".
Over a license plate light? Yeh - he's a hardened criminal all right. Of course you don't see a problem with cops trying to destroy evidence, do you?
My pension comes from a NYS fund that pays out from 100% payroll contributions from the officers. Same as your IRA Zero from taxes. Try again, Bucky.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
I haven't been stopped for breaking any laws. V&T or otherwise. Kinda hard to get special treatment when I don't do anything that would cause me to need it.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Zero from taxes. Try again, Bucky. I don't receive any stipends from a government authorized body unlike yourself. Just because you suggest some few years of meaningless life of beating kids for a living while walking them across streets to an elementary skool does not mean I am equivocal to your pitiful life. Nope, unlike you, I work for a living and shall continue to work and shall until the day I die.
Sounds like you financially planned like you listened in constitutional law class. It's ok. A well oiled Kapitalistic society thrives on all three economic Klasses. The wealthy, middle Klass and working poor. All equally important to its success, you are equally one-third important to the machine... the other two Klasses thank you.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
That's like saying David Berkowitz was put away for a parking ticket. The 17 year old momma's boy was tased for resisting.. not a V&T infraction.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Well, someone asked my opinion on this thread, in comment #35, so this thread is where I thought it appropriate to put it.
Yeh - he's a hardened criminal all right. I'm at the a point where these anti-cop narratives can't be believed. There's an epidemic of attention whores, punks, and "do-what-I-want!" anarchists who appear to be setting up all LE as perpetual, ubiquitous evil bullies. Are we all supposed to believe THIS is exactly how it all went down? REALLY??: The embellishment of the "reporting" (coming from this source, expected) is purposely inflammatory and exaggerated. A LOT of presumption here. And presumably, perhaps too much cop-baiting, knowing the cell phone cam was activated. Of course you don't see a problem with cops trying to destroy evidence, do you? I'd be willing to wager that the "evidence" indicts the perp as big mouth, baiting punks. No, the cops 'tudes probably didn't help the matter either.
#2. To: Deckard (#0)
#3. To: buckeroo (#1)
(Edited)
There is nothing better than reading about a Professional Kop beating a poor, wittle kid over a license plate issue on a Saturday.
#4. To: GrandIsland (#3)
#5. To: buckeroo (#4)
yeah, that ebil weed really really required unprofessional actions by kestone kops with klubs to beat sense into the wittle kids.
#6. To: GrandIsland (#3)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#7. To: GrandIsland (#5)
Yeah, your PHD on constitutional law combined with your inside information on this case allows you your anarchist idiolgy and this writers yellow journalistic slant because you (and the writer) defend kriminals that kant understand konstitutionally tested kannabis laws because you've burnt out the brain cells in your karnium with Alex Jones koolaid.
#8. To: Deckard (#6)
(Edited)
Why did the cops attempt to delete the video if they were in the right?
#9. To: buckeroo (#7)
(Edited)
What exactly *is* a kriminal, GrandIsland? Tell the chit-chat channel.
#10. To: GrandIsland (#9)
#11. To: buckeroo (#10)
What is your problem with non-violent behaviour.
#12. To: GrandIsland (#11)
This was non violent... until the 17 year old forced it to be violent. He was given a non violent VERBAL command to exit the car. Had he complied, the whole incident would have been non violent. The CHOICE was his.
#13. To: GrandIsland (#8)
The video itself shows no impropriety in the use of force continuum used.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#14. To: buckeroo (#12)
#15. To: Deckard (#13)
Once again - if the cops did nothing wrong, why try to delete the evidence?
#16. To: GrandIsland, buckeroo (#14)
Kredibility...
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#17. To: GrandIsland (#15)
It was deleted because the female driver said so?
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#18. To: Deckard (#17)
(Edited)
#19. To: Deckard (#16)
(Edited)
Kredibility... ...Kriminal
#20. To: GrandIsland (#14)
There was PC to give that order (and later marijuana found, so their PC was accurate) It was his duty to follow that command.... all done by the constitutional book... but you still don't like it because you love your Kannabis.
6 officers dealing with two resistors is hardly a "police state".
You'd keep more Kredibility if you'd just argue on threads about drug laws... not defending obvious Kriminal behavior and uncivil civilian actions... but you don't Kare how stupid you look, you are anonymous
#21. To: Deckard (#0)
Brandon is currently imprisoned until July on charges of assault and battery on a police officer and resisting arrest.
#22. To: Fred Mertz (#21)
Even I wanted to smack that punk around after listening to his smart mouth!
#23. To: buckeroo (#22)
Seems as though you have a repressed violent urge against little kids.
#24. To: Deckard (#0)
#25. To: buckeroo (#20)
Duty by a US Citizen to obey a "command" issued by a local yahoo, keystone kop that graduated from POLICE STATE AKADEMY... where is that written in the US Constitution?
#26. To: All (#25)
(Edited)
#27. To: Fred Mertz (#23)
No, just mouthy ones who wear knit caps in warm weather.
#28. To: GrandIsland (#25)
The 4th amendment is a guaranteed right of yours absent PROBABLE CAUSE... and a guaranteed right for the police to your persons and property if you should supply that PROBABBLE [sp] CAUSE.
#29. To: GrandIsland (#2)
How about reporting if police smell weed coming from your car they don’t need permission to search everywhere in your car, and the people in it for one. Secondly, instead of updating with more divisive facebook post, update it with the facts that WAVY news reported on so easily. First the Police found weed in the purse that they attached to the female in the video,
#30. To: GrandIsland (#26)
It's not a guaranteed right to break the law.
#31. To: buckeroo (#27)
Oh, the ONES that require POLICE STATE
#32. To: Pinguinite (#29)
#33. To: buckeroo (#30)
It is a civil responsibility to react against state terrorism in America.
#34. To: GrandIsland, Deckard (#31)
If there was a real police state in this country, you'd be shackled to Deckard in some jail cell, trying to make to roll cigarettes with toilet paper while Deckard licks them, by now... so enough of your drama.
#35. To: Pinguinite (#29)
Cops claiming they "smell" weed in the car could have been a fabrication on their part
#36. To: GrandIsland (#33)
buckeroo: It is a civil responsibility to react against state terrorism in America.
#37. To: buckeroo (#34)
but there is merit about the posting.
#38. To: buckeroo (#36)
(Edited)
OK, it all based on GrandIsland's two month and al
#39. To: GrandIsland (#37)
#40. To: GrandIsland (#35)
absolutely correct. Yes it could. So what do you suggest. Because an officers senses "could be fabricated, has been fabricated in past history or isn't 100% proven by you on a polical forum, they shouldn't be allowed to use them for PC?
#41. To: GrandIsland (#38)
And my basic was 6 months.
#42. To: buckeroo (#28)
guess a minor lite bulb deemed non working lead to a POLICE STATE MENTALITY to ensure beating little kids.
#43. To: Pinguinite (#40)
What I suggest is doing away with laws that don't serve any public good
#44. To: GrandIsland (#42)
The light deficiency was PC for the stop... the smell of weed was PC to remove all occupants and search the occupants and all reachable areas of the car.
#45. To: GrandIsland (#43)
#46. To: buckeroo (#39)
From a "lite bulb" to "marijuana" to what next?
#47. To: GrandIsland (#46)
Stupid question. Impossible to answer without my crystal ball. Every case is different. With a sharp, on the ball officer, anything is possible with 17 year old potheads that are double digit IQ constitutional scholars, like you. lol
#48. To: Liberator (#45)
I understand over-officious cops are out there who deserve a bunch of flack, but man....
#49. To: buckeroo (#44)
REQUIRE EXCESSIVE POLICE FORCE in America.
#50. To: Liberator (#45)
Why are these people dying on this hill? Another 17 year old punk makes his own bed, and suddenly every cop is Darth Vader.
#51. To: buckeroo (#47)
Go eat a free jelly filled donut and slurp a kup o' koffee from a local 0bama imported chink give-a-way based on your patrol.
#52. To: GrandIsland (#49)
buckeroo: REQUIRE EXCESSIVE POLICE FORCE in America.
GrandIsland: There was just 5 or 6 officers dealing with two resistors [SP] .... how is that an "excessive AMERICA"?
You are a drama queen, trashing up a poorly written article with your anarchic opinions on what kind of lawless country america should be. Start a new thread on Buckys dream world.
#53. To: GrandIsland (#51)
I'm retired, Bucky. If you can't keep up with simple details, how will you keep up with legal discussions?
#54. To: buckeroo (#53)
You are not retired. You are milking the system living on a government pension, sucker.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#55. To: Liberator (#45)
Another 17 year old punk makes his own bed...
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#56. To: buckeroo (#53)
You are milking the system living on a government pension, sucker.
#57. To: Deckard (#54)
I bet he still gets "professional courtesy"
#58. To: GrandIsland (#56)
My pension comes from a NYS fund that pays out from 100% payroll contributions from the officers. Same as your IRA
#59. To: buckeroo (#58)
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Nope, unlike you, I work for a living and shall continue to work and shall until the day I die.
#60. To: Deckard (#55)
Over a license plate light?
#61. To: GrandIsland (#43)
Then you and Bucky can start a new thread and chit-chat about your OPINIONS. Has nothing to do with this poorly written article or the officers conduct.
#62. To: Deckard (#55)
Over a license plate light?
" Concerned by the officer’s aggressive behavior and knowing her rights, she propped her cell phone up on the dashboard to capture the incident. After brutalizing her 17-year-old friend and taking them both into custody..."
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