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Title: Can Rand Paul escape his father's shadow?
Source: CNN
URL Source: http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/06/polit ... on-paul-rand-paul-differences/
Published: Apr 7, 2015
Author: Chris Moody
Post Date: 2015-04-07 22:22:10 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 3702
Comments: 32

The launch of Sen. Rand Paul's presidential campaign -- expected to be officially unveiled in Kentucky on Tuesday -- may not have been possible without the work of his father, Ron Paul, the former Texas congressman and three-time White House contender.

The elder Paul, who ran for president as a Libertarian in 1988 and a Republican in 2008 and 2012, helped pave the way for Rand Paul by building a nationwide network of devoted supporters drawn to his message of limited government and non-interventionist foreign policy. But while Rand Paul has largely inherited the ideological roots of Ron Paul's political philosophy, he's not a carbon copy of his father.

The two are similar in many ways—Ron Paul says he agrees with 99 percent of what his son believes. In some cases, they merely take different strategic approaches to reach the same goal, and in most cases Ran Paul's stance is a slightly more moderate version than his father's.

Still, Rand Paul expects to be treated as his own man, and in many ways he has proven to be a different type of politician. Here are some areas where they differ, even if slightly:

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#1. To: Gatlin (#0)

You're really worried about Rand Paul aren't you?

What are the three top things you think the man is incorrect on. Please.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-04-07   22:24:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone (#1)

You're really worried about Rand Paul aren't you?
Worried? No. I am simply fascinated by his chronic inconsistency. He keeps trying to have it both ways on so many issues.
What are the three top things you think the man is incorrect on. Please.

I will say that it is more “inconsistent” than “incorrect.”

He prides himself as being the Grand Poobah anti-interventionist and now he is kissing the neocons’ asses to try and hide or shake off the “isolationist albatross” tag metaphorically hung around his neck. The dilemma compounds because his past statements keep coming back to bit him in the ass. His foreign policy is awkward to say the least.

Then there is his before and after statements on aid to Israel. He tries to suck up to the base by wanting to eliminate all “foreign aid” from the State Department’s budget. Wait! Now that he is gearing up for a presidential run, he is now trying to walk a pragmatic political line to “eliminate all foreign aid – except for Israel.” So now he pathetically denies ever having the ideologically consistent one.

And there was the drone issue. He raises hell over the prospect of any weaponized drone attacks in America while he cheers the drone program abroad so he can get credit for “speaking against the use of drones” without actually speaking out against drones.

It’s not just me, others on the right are hitting Rand Paul over inconsistencies between his past and present policies. Ann Coulter to Rand Paul: ‘Just pick a position.’

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-07   23:29:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Gatlin (#6)

And there was the drone issue. He raises hell over the prospect of any weaponized drone attacks in America while he cheers the drone program abroad so he can get credit for “speaking against the use of drones” without actually speaking out against drones.

I don't remember im cheering any drone attacks overseas.

I think it is a good position to say to be against any and all weaponized attacks in America. Save something spectacular. Which i'm sure Rand would agree with. Something spectacular as in undefined. But it stinks like a democrat so you will know it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-04-07   23:40:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone (#10)

And there was the drone issue. He raises hell over the prospect of any weaponized drone attacks in America while he cheers the drone program abroad so he can get credit for “speaking against the use of drones” without actually speaking out against drones.

I don't remember (h)im cheering any drone attacks overseas.

If you find my use of the word “cheer” is too strong, perhaps you will accept the term “talks up.”

Rand Paul talks up possible drone strikes

There is a contingent on the left that agrees with Sen. Rand Paul (R- Ky.), his party and general worldview notwithstanding, because of his position on one important issue: the use of drone strikes as part of the U.S. national security policy.

It was the Obama administration’s use of drones, for example, that sparked Rand Paul’s 13-hour speech on the Senate floor last year. Two months later, the Kentucky Republican said drone strikes as part of a counter-terrorism policy are at odds with the American system of due process. More recently, the senator railed against a presidential judicial nominee, again over drones. launching drone strikes.

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) late Tuesday said if the United States discovered any of the released Guantanamo Bay prisoners were planning a terrorist attack, “there would be a drone with their name on it.”

On Fox News’s “Your World with Neil Cavuto,” Paul was asked if he advocates tracking them down and killing them if they plot against the U.S. “I would say that there would be a drone with their name on it,” replied Paul, who has been somewhat critical of portions of President Obama’s drone program.

Well, that’s not quite what Paul’s supporters expected to hear.

This isn’t the first time the GOP senator has strayed from his own talking points. Last April, also during an interview with Fox’s Cavuto, Paul said he’s comfortable with the executive branch having the authority to use drones on Americans over U.S. soil if an administration perceives an “imminent threat.” Paul even went so far as to say, “If someone comes out of a liquor store with a weapon and 50 dollars in cash, I don’t care if a drone kills him or a policeman kills him.”

But yesterday’s rhetoric seemed especially out of place given all of the senator’s recent posturing on the issue of drone strikes, and raises some important questions about Paul’s actual beliefs.

It’s possible, for example, that the Kentucky Republican is starting to engage in some chest-thumping, there-would-be-a-drone-with- their-name-on-it “tough” talk in order to impress his party establishment. As Paul gears up for a national campaign, he’s no doubt aware of the fact that many Republicans reject his foreign policy vision and fear his general preference for isolationism.

In other words, maybe the senator is starting to talk more like the typical Republican, talking up things like drone strikes during Fox News interviews, to make himself more appealing to his intra-party critics.

But let’s also not discount the possibility that Rand Paul doesn’t fully understand the issues he claims to care the most about. This applies to drones, but it’s not the only issue that has recently tripped up the senator.

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http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/rand-paul-talks- possible-drone-strikes.

I think it is a good position to say to be against any and all weaponized attacks in America. Save something spectacular. Which i'm sure Rand would agree with…

It is really hard to say what Rand agrees or disagrees with since his positions are constantly changing.

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This is not the first time Senator Paul has been in favor of using drones following his filibuster. Not even a month after his speech, Senator Paul said he would be OK with the use of drones on American soil against violent criminals.

“If someone comes out of a liquor store with a weapon and fifty dollars in cash,” says Paul in an interview with Fox News previously, “I don’t care if a drone kills him or a policeman kills him.”

Senator Paul also took time to criticize President Obama’s decision surrounding the prisoner exchange. The senator, who is aspiring for the Republican presidential nomination in 2016, said he could never imagine a circumstance in which he would engage in open trade with enemy forces.

http://benswann.com/senator-rand-paul-warns-of-drone-strikes-on- taliban/.

WHOA….let’s read again what Rand said. I even looked up the entire quote so it would not be said to have been taken out of context:

“I’ve never argued against any technology being used when you have an imminent threat, an active crime going on. If someone comes out of a liquor store with a weapon and fifty dollars in cash, I don’t care if a drone kills him or a policeman kills him,” Paul told host Neil Cavuto. “It’s different if they want to come fly over your hot tub or your yard just because they want to do surveillance on everyone and they want to watch your activities.” [Boldness Added]

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/paul- defends- himself-against-drone-backlash-90656.html#ixzz3WhZUXTIm

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