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Title: Rand Paul Is Losing His Father’s Base
Source: http://fivethirtyeight.com/
URL Source: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features ... ul-is-losing-his-fathers-base/
Published: Apr 7, 2015
Author: HARRY ENTEN
Post Date: 2015-04-07 21:47:24 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 7129
Comments: 41

Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul’s presidential campaign is less than a day old but already suffers from an identity crisis. Paul wants to win, but he can only do so if he is seen as more mainstream than his father, Ron Paul, who ran for president in 2008 and 2012. At the same time, Paul can’t completely jettison the far-left and far-right positions that have made him a hero to the substantial number of Republican libertarians who made up his father’s base.

In Paul’s dream world, he’ll satisfy everyone. In the most likely real world, he’ll end up satisfying no one.

The most obvious path for Paul to win the GOP nomination is to build on the 21 percent of the vote his father earned in Iowa in 2012, and the 23 percent Paul Sr. picked up in New Hampshire that year. In a divided primary field, that might not seem so difficult; 25 percent might be enough to win both states. And with wins in the first two contests, Paul might be able to ride the Big Mo’ to the nomination.

But right now, Paul isn’t anywhere close to where his father ended up in either state in 2012. Paul is polling at a little less than 9 percent in Iowa and nearly 11 percent in New Hampshire. That’s far closer to the percentage of the vote earned by Paul Sr. in both states during his 2008 bid for the presidency, which was far less relevant than his 2012 run.

In fact, Paul is losing support across the board. While he was initially able to outpace his father’s 2012 success, his national numbers have been dropping over the last year.

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#1. To: Gatlin (#0)

It's ironic, but Rand Paul could conceivably win a general election against Xlinton. In the wacko blue states, he'd be at least competiive in statist hell-holes like CA and NY. He might even win a few of the less farther gone ones. And he'd carry the red states that Romney won.

But he'll never get the chance - because he's never, ever going to win a gop nomination.

Not in a million years.

Rufus T Firefly  posted on  2015-04-07   21:52:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Rufus T Firefly (#1)

Not in a million years.

You don't really know that. It is just your opinion.

I'm sure you saw me on here saying I will vote for Cruz.

But you know what. I could switch to Rand Paul.

I like Cruz more on social issues and I think he is more willing to fight for conservative principals.

I like Rand Pauls view of the Patriot act.

On foreign Policy I think we shouldn't be attacking many of the places we did starting with Bush. The first Bush for that matter. But I also see the need to keep evil People from acquiring WMD's. Not that Rand is for letting that happen but Cruz is more of a Hawk. Being more of a Hawk can be good or bad depending on the circumstance.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-04-07   22:09:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone (#5)

Should a voter be won over to a candidate by his own merits -
or those of his father? Ummmmm.....

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-04-07   22:19:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Chuck_Wagon (#7)

Should a voter be won over to a candidate by his own merits - or those of his father? Ummmmm.....

On his own merits. But knowing who a man was raised by might be of some benefit also. But mainly the merits of the individual.

Why do you ask?

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-04-07   22:23:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#9) (Edited)

Why do you ask?

This whole idea of painting Rand with the same 'political paintbrush'
as his father is dumb IMO. If YOU were to run for office,
how comfortable would you be answering for every political
decision that YOUR father ever made? See what I mean?

Did I and my father agree on some things? Sure. Did we agree
on everything? Absolutely not.

I am not my father.

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-04-08   6:42:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Chuck_Wagon (#31)

This whole idea of painting Rand with the same 'political paint brush' as his father is dumb IMO. If YOU were to run for office, how comfortable would you be answering for every political decision that YOUR father ever made? See what I mean?

I see exactly what you mean. I agree with my father mostly on politics. But he isn't as conservative as I am. We disagree on a whole host of issues.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-04-08   6:44:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: A K A Stone (#32)

We disagree on a whole host of issues.

Right.

For instance - my father was a member of a union for many decades.
I have never worked where I had a chance to join a union.
And I never had any interest in the concept.
I have a whole different concept of what 'work' can, and
should consist of. (I'm an engineer and entrepreneur.)

But my (formerly) 89 year old Dad and I grew up in two entirely
different worlds. The world changed a wee bit in 39 years, eh?

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-04-08   7:00:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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