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Title: Rand Paul Is Losing His Father’s Base
Source: http://fivethirtyeight.com/
URL Source: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features ... ul-is-losing-his-fathers-base/
Published: Apr 7, 2015
Author: HARRY ENTEN
Post Date: 2015-04-07 21:47:24 by Gatlin
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Views: 7407
Comments: 41

Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul’s presidential campaign is less than a day old but already suffers from an identity crisis. Paul wants to win, but he can only do so if he is seen as more mainstream than his father, Ron Paul, who ran for president in 2008 and 2012. At the same time, Paul can’t completely jettison the far-left and far-right positions that have made him a hero to the substantial number of Republican libertarians who made up his father’s base.

In Paul’s dream world, he’ll satisfy everyone. In the most likely real world, he’ll end up satisfying no one.

The most obvious path for Paul to win the GOP nomination is to build on the 21 percent of the vote his father earned in Iowa in 2012, and the 23 percent Paul Sr. picked up in New Hampshire that year. In a divided primary field, that might not seem so difficult; 25 percent might be enough to win both states. And with wins in the first two contests, Paul might be able to ride the Big Mo’ to the nomination.

But right now, Paul isn’t anywhere close to where his father ended up in either state in 2012. Paul is polling at a little less than 9 percent in Iowa and nearly 11 percent in New Hampshire. That’s far closer to the percentage of the vote earned by Paul Sr. in both states during his 2008 bid for the presidency, which was far less relevant than his 2012 run.

In fact, Paul is losing support across the board. While he was initially able to outpace his father’s 2012 success, his national numbers have been dropping over the last year.

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#1. To: Gatlin (#0)

It's ironic, but Rand Paul could conceivably win a general election against Xlinton. In the wacko blue states, he'd be at least competiive in statist hell-holes like CA and NY. He might even win a few of the less farther gone ones. And he'd carry the red states that Romney won.

But he'll never get the chance - because he's never, ever going to win a gop nomination.

Not in a million years.

Rufus T Firefly  posted on  2015-04-07   21:52:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Rufus T Firefly (#1)

Not in a million years.

You don't really know that. It is just your opinion.

I'm sure you saw me on here saying I will vote for Cruz.

But you know what. I could switch to Rand Paul.

I like Cruz more on social issues and I think he is more willing to fight for conservative principals.

I like Rand Pauls view of the Patriot act.

On foreign Policy I think we shouldn't be attacking many of the places we did starting with Bush. The first Bush for that matter. But I also see the need to keep evil People from acquiring WMD's. Not that Rand is for letting that happen but Cruz is more of a Hawk. Being more of a Hawk can be good or bad depending on the circumstance.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-04-07   22:09:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: A K A Stone (#5) (Edited)

On foreign Policy I think we shouldn't be attacking many of the places we did starting with Bush.

Here is one place we are in complete agreement.

I'll even go further. Show me a candidate that will get up there in front of the teebee cameras and state loud and proud that an America under HIS or HER presidency will no longer follow a foreign policy of killing privates or other cannon fodder,but will be targeting the financiers that finance the guerrilla terrorism wars by seizing their entire bank accounts,and then tracking them down like dogs and hanging them in public.

Cut off the money,cut off the war within a week. No money for food,supplies,transportation,clothing,weapons,medicine,etc,etc,etc = raghead cannon fodder walking back home to eat mud pies and MAYBE roasting their tribal leaders over a fire. Just like the common sense expression towards work states "work smart,not hard",we need to "fight smart,not hard".

You don't win wars by killing spear carriers. You win wars by going after the leadership.

That way we can not only win,but kill or cripple a HELL of a lot fewer innocents and have a hell of a lot fewer orphans growing up with grudges against us.

Not to mention that it is the moral thing to do.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-04-07   23:43:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: sneakypete (#19)

targeting the financiers that finance the guerrilla terrorism wars by seizing their entire bank accounts,and then tracking them down like dogs and hanging them in public. Cut off the money,cut off the war within a week. No money for food,supplies,transportation,clothing,weapons,medicine,etc,etc,etc = raghead cannon fodder walking back home to eat mud pies and MAYBE roasting their tribal leaders over a fire. Just like the common sense expression towards work states "work smart,not hard",we need to "fight smart,not hard". That way we can not only win,but kill or cripple a HELL of a lot fewer innocents and have a hell of a lot fewer orphans growing up with grudges against us. Not to mention that it is the moral thing to do.

You can't just automatically cut off money. And that is a good thing. Because when that happens. It will the the antichrist in charge.

He causeth all rich and poor free and bond to receive a mark in their right hand or forehead. That no man shall buy or sell except he who hath that mark and that mark is the number of a man and it is six and 3 score and six. 666. Or something like that from Revelation chapter 13. That is from my memory and not a direct quote from Bible.

Speaking of that Pete. You should read the Bible. Again. I think you missed something.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-04-07   23:48:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: A K A Stone (#21)

You can't just automatically cut off money.

Sure you can. Most of it comes from Saudi Arabia,and with the computing brain and electronic power the NSA has,there is no such thing as untraceable money anymore.

You can shut it down two ways. One is by seizing the bank accounts used to transfer funds to terrorist groups and then filing suit to seize the rest of their money,and the other is to seize their money and then kill the bastards.

My vote is for the seize the money and kill the bastards plan.

You should read the Bible.

I prefer better written fiction.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-04-07   23:56:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: sneakypete (#25)

I prefer better written fiction.

Oh Pete you are so ignorant.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-04-08   0:04:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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