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Title: Rand Paul Is Losing His Father’s Base
Source: http://fivethirtyeight.com/
URL Source: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features ... ul-is-losing-his-fathers-base/
Published: Apr 7, 2015
Author: HARRY ENTEN
Post Date: 2015-04-07 21:47:24 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 6673
Comments: 41

Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul’s presidential campaign is less than a day old but already suffers from an identity crisis. Paul wants to win, but he can only do so if he is seen as more mainstream than his father, Ron Paul, who ran for president in 2008 and 2012. At the same time, Paul can’t completely jettison the far-left and far-right positions that have made him a hero to the substantial number of Republican libertarians who made up his father’s base.

In Paul’s dream world, he’ll satisfy everyone. In the most likely real world, he’ll end up satisfying no one.

The most obvious path for Paul to win the GOP nomination is to build on the 21 percent of the vote his father earned in Iowa in 2012, and the 23 percent Paul Sr. picked up in New Hampshire that year. In a divided primary field, that might not seem so difficult; 25 percent might be enough to win both states. And with wins in the first two contests, Paul might be able to ride the Big Mo’ to the nomination.

But right now, Paul isn’t anywhere close to where his father ended up in either state in 2012. Paul is polling at a little less than 9 percent in Iowa and nearly 11 percent in New Hampshire. That’s far closer to the percentage of the vote earned by Paul Sr. in both states during his 2008 bid for the presidency, which was far less relevant than his 2012 run.

In fact, Paul is losing support across the board. While he was initially able to outpace his father’s 2012 success, his national numbers have been dropping over the last year.

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#4. To: Gatlin (#0)

ut right now, Paul isn’t anywhere close to where his father ended up in either state in 2012. Paul is polling at a little less than 9 percent in Iowa and nearly 11 percent in New Hampshire

Kind of misleading like a truck question. Rand Paul is ahead of his father at this point.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-04-07   22:02:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: A K A Stone (#4)

Kind of misleading like a truck question. Rand Paul is ahead of his father at this point.

The article is kinda specious even if 538 are stats wizards.

First, Rand Paul is running in 2016, not in 2008 or in 2012 which were themselves nomination and general election battles with very different dynamics and key issues.

Foreign policy can come to the fore and recede over the course of a campaign. A lot can change in fairly short order. The public is likely to go back to sleep on ISIS and national security if ISIS starts suffering serious reverses. Also, if all of the GOP candidates not named 'Paul' manage to convince the public that voting for them is a vote to invade Iran or Syria, all bets are off. It's all fine to yap about Rand being dangerous on foreign policy but the GOP is completely deluded if they think they win by scaring the public into it. Only a 9/11 attack could do that and that might work more to Hitlery's advantage than the GOP.

We've already had Walker as big frontrunner, now supposedly gone up in flames over a few sentences and a condescending attack by Obama. Recall when Rubio was riding so high, signed on to the Gang of 8 shamnesty, totally tanked in the polls and has now made a decent comeback?

People seem to think the race is over before it has barely begun. Historically, you don't really want to be the frontrunner so early. You don't want the media spotlight on you throughout, picking you apart. It doesn't matter what the polls say now, better to slowly build your machine and support under the radar and peak just as you approach the Iowa caucus and New Hampshire primary.

It's way too early to get so excited, one way or the other, by polls about any candidate in the early states. It's gotta be boob bait this far out.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-04-07   22:42:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#22. To: TooConservative (#13)

It's way too early to get so excited, one way or the other, by polls about any candidate in the early states.

It's never too early to hate any candidate named Bush.

Hate early,hate hard.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-04-07 23:50:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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