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Title: Rand Paul set to declare presidential bid today
Source: USA Today
URL Source: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/ ... nt-2016-announcement/25041783/
Published: Apr 7, 2015
Author: Catalina Camia
Post Date: 2015-04-07 07:55:48 by Jameson
Keywords: RAND, PAUL
Views: 1410
Comments: 13

WASHINGTON — Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul is poised to officially join the 2016 presidential race today, hoping to remake the Republican Party with a mix of libertarian and conservative ideals that can attract minorities and young people.

Paul is scheduled to declare his candidacy at a rally in Louisville, Ky. Paul, 52, joins Texas Sen. Ted Cruz in a race that has attracted the interest of more than a dozen potential GOP candidates. He is also simultaneously running for re-election to his Senate seat.

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#1. To: All (#0)

"... hoping to remake the Republican Party with a mix of libertarian and conservative ideals that can attract minorities and young people..."

So....a middle aged white guy from Kentucky is the right person to attract minorities and young people.....

We'll see where this goes....

"we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.

Jameson  posted on  2015-04-07   8:07:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Jameson (#1)

He won't attract the bulk of the traditional Republican electorate ,and he won't be able to cobble a new coaliton. His father was never able to go beyond a fringe candidate and that will be the fate of his 'legacy candidate ' son.

As he has tried to put distance between himself and his old man ,he has weakened his support from his own base . Last election he supported Mitch McConnell in a primary against a tea party candidate . That may have been a pragmatic move that serves his position as a Senator; but it proved that he is willing to compromise his principles when it's expedient .

What he can do well and clearly spell out the issues about Obamacare and to lay out an alternative . But I do not trust his foreign policy instincts . Since he plans to announce with USS Yorktown as a backdrop shows that he thinks he's vulnerable on the issue too.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-04-07   8:34:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: tomder55, GeorgiaConservative (#2)

He won't attract the bulk of the traditional Republican electorate ,and he won't be able to cobble a new coaliton. His father was never able to go beyond a fringe candidate and that will be the fate of his 'legacy candidate ' son.

Don't kid yourself, Rand is 10x the retail political candidate that Ron ever was. Even when he was just a surrogate speaker for his dad in 2008 and 2012, he really moved the crowds.

That is why Fox News just happens to drag out Karl Rove to rain on his parade today. They also just happened to feature a segment with Pete Hegseth attacking Rand. Sheer coincidence. And a 501c PAC is running that new ad attacking Rand with nuke images, like LBJ's old Daisy commercial.

They never bothered to do anything like that to damage Ron Paul. He wasn't ever a threat. Rand is.

Keep in mind that in so many states, indy voters are now the majority. The kind who voted for Obama.

The GOP doesn't seem to realize that they represent an aging and declining set of positions on many issues, from the neocon warmongering in the Mideast to Arab Spring disasters to the War On Drugs and the Patriot Act.

And Rand will face a dozen GOP opponents who will split that neocon vote among themselves, giving Rand a corner on the realist foreign policy positions.

Rand also has potential to bring in young people and minorities in a way that no other GOP candidates can.

You might notice that the Left is worried and they're almost as eager to attack Rand Paul because they're afraid of their voters defecting from neocon/Wall Street-loving Hitlery to Rand.

So Rand will pop out of the gate under fire from the neocon Right and the Occupy Left. And that isn't all bad.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-04-07   9:48:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: tomder55 (#2)

What he can do well and clearly spell out the issues about Obamacare and to lay out an alternative .

"...hoping to remake the Republican Party with a mix of libertarian and conservative ideals that can attract minorities and young people..."

I think attacking a program that is generally popular with younger and minority voters is a strategy that will fail to get much traction.....

"we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.

Jameson  posted on  2015-04-07   11:36:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: TooConservative (#3)

Rand also has potential to bring in young people and minorities in a way that no other GOP candidates can.

How so?

"we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.

Jameson  posted on  2015-04-07   11:38:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Jameson (#4)

I think attacking a program that is generally popular with younger and minority voters is a strategy that will fail to get much traction.....

He will not win the voters of the emperor because he won't promise freebies

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-04-07   11:49:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: TooConservative (#3)

Rationalizing already....you're too funny.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-07   11:57:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: tomder55 (#6)

I think attacking a program that is generally popular with younger and minority voters is a strategy that will fail to get much traction.....

He will not win the voters of the emperor because he won't promise freebies

What freebies are you talking about?

"we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.

Jameson  posted on  2015-04-07   12:01:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Jameson (#8)

What freebies are you talking about?

here's a partial list .

Free phones Free community college proposal pending forgiveness for past college loan payments Free money from the government ;enhanced child-care tax credits Free food ,increase in SNAP qualified increased in disability qualified Free birth control, sterilizations, abortafacients in Obamacare Amnesty give aways like Free pass to illegal aliens ,citizenship for illegals ,Free medical care illegal aliens . 2 years of unemployment benefits proposed universal free daycare . federal mandated sick leave propose government-subsidized broadband access proposed .

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-04-07   12:52:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: TooConservative, Jessie Benton quarantined (#3)

Rand Paul Taps Jesse Benton to Run His Super PAC

...federal-election rules bar coordination of strategy between super PACs, which can raise unlimited sums of money, and candidates' campaigns, which must adhere to strict donation limits....

Basically Jessie Benton is forbidden by law to even talk to Rand Paul, or anyone in the campaign.

The black sheep of the family by marriage, is quarantined.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-04-07   13:30:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: tomder55 (#9)

here's a partial list

I was specifically asking about your statement regarding Obamacare.....

"we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.

Jameson  posted on  2015-04-07   13:32:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: hondo68 (#10)

Benton dirtied up his own name and rep as a result of that Iowa scandal in 2012. And it was so pointless anyway.

I'm not sure Rand didn't have other equally good choices but the Pauls both like and trust Benton a lot and they know him very well.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-04-07   13:38:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Jameson (#11)

I was specifically asking about your statement regarding Obamacare.....

Besides the ones I already mentioned involving contraception ;

Blood pressure screening...

Depression screening...

Obesity counseling and screening..

STD prevention counseling ...

Smoking-cessation interventions, including counseling and medication...

Some vaccines .... Birth control ...

Breastfeeding counseling and supplies....

Domestic violence screening and counseling.... Free aspirin to prevent heart disease in older men and women

and of course the biggest one is the expansion of Medicaid eligibilty .

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-04-07   14:03:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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