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Title: American-Israeli Rabbi compares Obama to Haman
Source: Jerusalem Post
URL Source: http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Am ... compares-Obama-to-Haman-395457
Published: Mar 30, 2015
Author: GREER FAY CASHMAN, JEREMY SHARON
Post Date: 2015-03-30 09:47:44 by redleghunter
Keywords: None
Views: 2283
Comments: 19

Rabbi Shlomo Riskin, chief rabbi of Efrat, on Saturday night compared US President Barack Obama to Haman and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to Mordechai.

Speaking at the Jerusalem Great Synagogue, the American-born Riskin said that he could not understand what was going through Obama’s mind.

“The president of the United States is lashing out at Israel just like Haman lashed out at the Jews,” he said.

“I’m not making a political statement,” he clarified, “I’m making a Jewish statement.”

When a woman in the audience shouted out that he was being disrespectful to the US president, she was booed by the crowd. Riskin said he didn’t need any help from the audience.

“I am being disrespectful because the president of the United States was disrespectful to my prime minister, to my country, to my future and to the future of the world.”

Just as Mordechai was focused on saving the Jews of Persia from destruction, he said, so Netanyahu is focused on saving Israel and the world from destruction.

He said more than once throughout his address that he was proud of Netanyahu, and added that he did the right thing in speaking to Congress “even if it angered Obama.”

Riskin drew an analogy between the conquest of Babylonia by ancient Persia and the armed conflict between Iran and Iraq.

In relation to Iran, he said that the only difference between Iran and the Islamic State was who would be using power to control the world.

Closer to home, he said that one of Israel’s greatest tragedies is that the rabbinate is enmeshed in politics.

Alluding to Shas leader Arye Deri, Riskin declared that he didn’t know how someone who went to jail for bribery could be put back into the same place without ever admitting to his guilt or expressing remorse.

Riskin insisted that this was not compatible with Jewish philosophy.

“What we’re all about is compassionate righteousness and moral justice,” he said. “We have to have a free voice that is not politically fettered.”

Riskin was not the only prominent rabbi to criticize Obama over the weekend for his diplomatic policies.

The World Values Network, founded and run by American rabbi and public figure Shmuley Boteach, took out a full page advertisement in The New York Times on Saturday comparing the deal being drawn up with Iran on its nuclear project to the Munich Agreement signed in 1938 by British prime minister Neville Chamberlain with Adolf Hitler, widely seen as an act of appeasement that emboldened the Nazi leader.

The Times ad bore a picture of a pensive-looking Obama with an inset picture of Chamberlain holding aloft a copy of the Munich Agreement that he infamously declared to represent “peace for our time,” just 11 months before Hitler ordered the invasion of Poland marking the beginning of the World War II.

The ad described Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei as a “terror overlord” and a “Hitler-wannabe,” and said that the deal being discussed with Iran would “enable the world’s foremost sponsor of terror to become a nuclear power.”

It called on Obama to demand that Khamenei personally and publicly repudiate his threats against Israel, that Iran cease support for terrorist groups and for the US president not to approve a deal that “allows the potentially catastrophic one-year-weapons-breakout period, which endangers Israel, the Middle East, America and the world.


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#5. To: redleghunter (#0)

The Rabbi's analogy is bad. Haman wrote up the order to exterminate the Jews. He didn't just despise them, he wanted them all dead and sought to do it directly by legislation he authored.

That's not Obama. Obama is not actively seeking to slaughter the Israelis. He is simply indifferent to them.

The comparison with Neville Chamberlain is also quite imperfect. Chamberlain's performance at Munich was embarrassing, in hindsight. But Chamberlain saw Hitler's aggressiveness in taking more than the Sudentenland, and Chamberlain's government launched Britain's rearmament. It was Chamberlain who presided over the declaration of war on Germany over Poland. Chamberlain resigned just as the Germans were invading France, and Churchill took over just in time to preside over a disaster.

Still, the RAF, the Royal Navy and Army were put on a war footing and rearmed under Chamberlain.

Chamberlain made a grand strategic error in trusting Hitler would keep his agreement. That's true. France made the same error. So did Stalin. But Chamberlain was not completely blind. He saw Hitler break the terms of Munich. He rearmed his country. He drew the line at Poland and declared when Hitler attacked. He showed poor judgment at a crucial time, but the steps he took to rearm Britain DID put Britain in a position to be able to survive the onslaught, if only just.

Chamberlain really was an English patriot. He'd seen the horror of the First World War and wanted to avoid that for his country again, and if that cost some small countries some territory he was willing to trade their territory for peace, yes. But he was not a complete fool. He also rearmed Britain and prepared for a war that did come.

I don't see what Obama is doing as being really anything like Chamberlain. Chamberlain didn't CONNIVE at giving Hitler the Sudetenland. He recognized that the Germans did have a point: it was full of Germans, and World War I had ended with an ethnic sorting that left Germany with Germans outside its border. Hitler had a point. He didn't give over all of Czechoslovakia. Hitler took that - and Chamberlain knew that he could not deal with him anymore, and drew the line of war at Poland, and went to war too, even though he saw it was a disaster. And he rearmed Britain.

I don't see Obama's motives as being the same, and I don't see him taking the backup steps in case his policy fails. Chamberlain took a risk to avoid war, but he DID prepare for war. Obama? Not so much. He looks almost like an ADVOCATE for Iran against our ally.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-03-30   11:40:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Vicomte13 (#5)

Chamberlain really was an English patriot. He'd seen the horror of the First World War and wanted to avoid that for his country again, and if that cost some small countries some territory he was willing to trade their territory for peace, yes. But he was not a complete fool. He also rearmed Britain and prepared for a war that did come.

A strong argument can be made that Chamberlain's maneuvers actually brought Britain some time to catch up with Germany in rearming. Barely enough.

That doesn't really excuse Britain and France for failing to put a stop to Hitler when he took the Rhineland back. At that time, his hold on power was so shaky that he almost certainly would have fallen from power discredited if Britain and France had dispatched even a small force to eject German re-occupation of the Rhineland zone.

I always thought it was a lesson of doing the necessary thing when it is easy rather than wait until the threat is so much larger. But you can't really generalize such hindsight to grind out prescriptions for foreign policy. Hindsight has its limits in application to current circumstances. This is why discussions of Chamberlain and Hitler and Churchill and the Rhineland and Sudetanland may increase our scholarship of the era but not provide much illumination of which are the wisest choicest in policy today.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-30   11:47:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#7. To: TooConservative (#6)

always thought it was a lesson of doing the necessary thing when it is easy rather than wait until the threat is so much larger. But you can't really generalize such hindsight to grind out prescriptions for foreign policy. Hindsight has its limits in application to current circumstances. This is why discussions of Chamberlain and Hitler and Churchill and the Rhineland and Sudetanland may increase our scholarship of the era but not provide much illumination of which are the wisest choicest in policy today.

The wisest policy for FRANCE would have been to not declare war when Hitler took Poland, and to have sought to maintain the peace. If Hitler and Stalin want to kill each other, let them.

During that long war, rearm and prepare, and solidify an alliance with the UK and the USA. Then await developments. If Hitler could have overrun the USSR and avoided a war with the West, he probably would have done it. He didn't want war with Britain at all. And France? Well, France declared war on Germany. Had they not, the national honor over Poland would have been sorely tried. But the national honor ended up being wrecked by Vichy anyway. A lot of French lives would have been saved.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-03-30 12:29:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: TooConservative, Vicomte13 (#6)

Chamberlain really was an English patriot. He'd seen the horror of the First World War and wanted to avoid that for his country again, and if that cost some small countries some territory he was willing to trade their territory for peace, yes. But he was not a complete fool. He also rearmed Britain and prepared for a war that did come.

A strong argument can be made that Chamberlain's maneuvers actually brought Britain some time to catch up with Germany in rearming. Barely enough.

Chamberlain did not trust Hitler - they released a whole host of internal correspondence from that era a few years ago.

Chamberlain was buying time. If Hitler could be appeased with what was granted - war was averted - if not - then what he did bought time for the Brits to get on a war footing.

The whole Munich incident has been altered to as a false lesson in history to be used as a justification to not engage in diplomacy during the Cold War by the hawks in the Atlantic alliance.

Pericles  posted on  2015-03-30 18:49:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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