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Title: Indiana religion law is Jim Crow of our time
Source: Cincinnati.com
URL Source: http://www.cincinnati.com/story/opi ... on-law-jim-crow-time/70617014/
Published: Mar 29, 2015
Author: Ryan Messer
Post Date: 2015-03-29 04:44:12 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 39185
Comments: 127

The arguments for Indiana’s Religious Freedom Restoration Act arguments are strikingly similar to the arguments for racial discrimination some 50 years ago. Then, the nation debated whether it was right and just for someone to be barred from service at a lunch counter because of the color of his or her skin. Astonishingly, here we are again, having to combat arguments that it should be legal to bar someone from the same lunch counter based on the gender of the person they love.

Let’s tell it like it is: The so-called Religious Freedom Restoration Act is the Jim Crow legislation of our time. Today, African-Americans are protected from discrimination of this kind – and that’s exactly how it should be in the Land of the Free. Alas, LGBT people enjoy no such protection under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act, but at least always had trusted their home state legislatures and governors not to turn on them.

I take this personally because, as of Thursday, my family and I are not protected from discrimination when we visit family and friends in the state of my birth. This is real and wrong and grieves me deeply.

The passage of this discriminatory legislation brings back painful memories in Cincinnati of a charter amendment, commonly known as Article XII, that prohibited City Council from passing any ordinance that would have granted LGBT people equal protection under the law. It was a sorry moment in our city’s history – one in which an entire class of people was singled out for non-protection.

The city’s image was damaged throughout the country, and the economic impact was significant, with conventions being canceled and prestigious companies choosing not to do business in our city. I was a resident of Cincinnati at the time, and the passage of the charter amendment created a cloud over the city that ultimately contributed to my decision to leave. I wasn’t alone. Many people I knew moved to cities that they viewed as more welcoming: Chicago, Atlanta, San Diego. I moved to New York.

Fortunately, the citizens of Cincinnati rediscovered their essential instinct for justice and repealed Article XII, and I moved back as soon as I could. Cincinnati now is seen as one of those welcoming cities – one dramatically different from what it was. Did we fall into the dream that the rest of American had taken that journey with us? If so, we’ve had a rude awakening.

Now I have to question where in Indiana my family can go without discrimination. Can we visit the Indianapolis Children’s Museum? Will a hotel turn us away? Would we be allowed to buy a cupcake at a bakery? If you can, put yourself in our shoes for a moment you can see how unsettling and infuriating this situation is.

Maybe the good people of Indiana will come back to their senses as the good people of Cincinnati did some years ago. While they’re pondering what they’ve done, we Cincinnatians should contact the convention organizers who have announced they will pull their meetings out of Indiana and let them know that they are heartily welcome in the Queen City.

We should work with the business leaders who have decided not to expand in Indiana and let them know that they are very welcome to locate in our Ohio and Kentucky counties. And we certainly should let all the talented Hoosiers who happen to be LGBT know that they are welcome to live, work, love and play here.

Indiana may have lost its sense of justice and good sense for a while but the rest of us understand the human and business cases for diversity and inclusion. Let’s cash in on the progress we’ve made in Cincinnati and elevate our status as a city that welcomes diversity of all kinds and declines to discriminate against any of our citizens.

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#2. To: Willie Green (#0)

The Religious Freedom Restoration Act(RFRA) of 1993 is a federal law aimed at preventing laws that "substantially burden" a person's free exercise of religion. The bill was introduced by then Congressman Chuck Schumer in the House ,and Senators Orrin Hatch and Ted Kennedy in the Senate ,and passed by a unanimous U.S. House and a near unanimous U.S. Senate .It was signed into law by Bill Clinton.

It was ruled constitutional at the Federal level ;but SCOTUS ruled it did not apply at the state level . That is why some states have taken the initiative to pass their own laws.

Specific to the RFRA says that government can't deny free exercise of religion unless there is a compelling government interest ,and it finds the least burdensome way to deny it. “Government shall not substantially burden a person’s exercise of religion even if the burden results from a rule of general applicability".

Like the Federal law and some state laws that have already passed ; the law would have courts apply the standard of “strict scrutiny” when free exercise claims are made, meaning that when someone asks for a religious exemption from a law the government must demonstrate that it has a “compelling interest” in denying that claim, and that it has advanced that interest by the “least restrictive means.” The 3 tests applied are : -the religious belief has to be sincerely held, and not just a pose to make a point.

-the state interest in overriding the religious belief has to be compelling.

- the action taken by the state has to be the least intrusive that still satisfies the compelling state interest.

As an example ;these tests were applied in the Hobby Lobby case involving Obamacare and contraceptives ,and the result was a win for Hobby Lobby.

Now 19 states already have similar laws to what Governor Pence has signed . Some of them are very "blue " states (Illinois ,Connecticut ,Rhode Island ). The question is ,why wasn't the passage of laws in those state subject to the same stink that is going on in Indiana ? Could it be that Pence is a potential Presidential candidate ?

Another 11 states have judicial precedents that constitute a RFRA policy in their courts. RFRA cases have gone favorable to those laws because they don’t protect ad-hoc discrimination on any basis.

No it is not Jim Crow at all . Jim Crow laws compelled businesses to discriminate . Indiana's law like the other 19 laws passed at the state level does not permit discrimination at all ,but would not burden an individual or a business to partake in any way in a religious ceremony they find objectionable . In other words ,a Christian bakery could not deny service because someone was gay. However ,if they did not want to be associated or participate in a gay "marriage" ,they would not be compelled to provide the "wedding " cake.

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In other words ,a Christian bakery could not deny service because someone was gay. However ,if they did not want to be associated or participate in a gay "marriage" ,they would not be compelled to provide the "wedding " cake.

Nor could it be compelled to provide a Jewish wedding cake, nor an African-American wedding cake...
Nor would a so-called "Christian" restaurant/banquet hall be compelled to provide facilities for Jewish or African-American weddings either...
And since the Pope isn't really a true, "born again" Christian, I suppose it would be OK to refuse service to Catholics as well...

Mike Pence is the David Duke of Indiana.

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#5. To: Willie Green (#4)

African-American weddings

not the same at all. It would be vaguely analogous if the black couple were to ask a white baker for a cake that said 'death to white skin devils'. But either way ,that doesn't measure up to a religious test. Besides the bakers are not refusing to serve gays ;just to participate or be associated with the ceremony they find objectionable .

A better example would be if a Jewish baker were asked to make an anti-Semitic saying on the cake ,or perhaps Swastika armbands on the figurines on the cake ..or if a pro-abortion baker were asked by someone to make a cake that said 'Life begins at Birth '. Could the bakers in these cases be forced to serve those clients ?

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