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Title: 'I'm planning a heinous act that will be remembered forever': Killer pilot's ex-girlfriend says he shared chilling prophecy before Alps crash and woke up from nightmares shouting 'we're going down'
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URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art ... mares-shouting-going-down.html
Published: Mar 27, 2015
Author: David Williams and Sam Marsden and Tom K
Post Date: 2015-03-27 22:51:41 by out damned spot
Keywords: Lubitz, girl friend, crash
Views: 15093
Comments: 88
*Andreas Lubitz told former girlfriend he was planning an act so horrifying his name would be remembered forever *He was a master of hiding his darkest thoughts and frightened his former lover so much she decided to leave him *Startling revelations add weight to claims the pilot concealed medical condition that should have stopped him flying *Comes after it emerged Lubitz should have been off sick on day he deliberately crashed plane into mountainside *Torn-up sick notes have been found in 27-year-old's flat which showed he had hidden extent of illness from airline Killer pilot Andreas Lubitz told his ex-girlfriend he was planning an act so heinous his name would be remembered for ever, it was sensationally claimed last night. Lubitz was a tormented, erratic man who was a master of hiding his darkest thoughts and would wake up from nightmares screaming ‘we’re going down’, his former partner said. She revealed to a German newspaper how Lubitz ominously told her last year: ‘One day I will do something that will change the whole system, and then all will know my name and remember it.’ When she heard about the crash of Germanwings Flight 4U9525 on Tuesday, she remembered Lubitz’s menacing prophecy. ‘I never knew what he meant, but now it makes sense,’ she told Bild. His personal problems and erratic behaviour was so severe that she was frightened and decided to leave him. She added: ‘When I heard about the crash, there was just a tape playing in my head of what he said, “One day I will do something that will change the system and everyone will then know my name and remember me”. ‘I did not know what he meant by that at the time, but now it’s clear.’ Police will want to interview the unnamed former girlfriend in detail about the pilot’s state of mind. The couple had been together for seven years and lived in a smart flat on the outskirts of Dusseldorf. One report claimed they were engaged and planned to marry next year.
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#48. To: Liberator, Deckard (#47)
You kinda have a kneejerk habit of immediately rejecting any explanation of any news event with some homespun conspiracy theory. It's an oppositional-defiance disorder. The rest of us really aren't that stupid and you aren't that smart. Come on, if you can't sell a conspiracy theory to Deckard, you're really off in the weeds all by yourself. In your mind, that must make your CT the most Truthy ever.
Yes, I admittedly I have a "kneejerk habit of immediately rejecting any explanation of any news event" spun by the PTB's spinmeisters that usually create an alternative explanation in hopes of shielding Islam, certain Presidents from scrutiny, and the New World Order/Agenda 21 plan. The rest of us really aren't that stupid and you aren't that smart. Don't fret; I don't regard you as "stupid" -- just naive and prone to a mentality that automatically accepts whatever "official" narrative tossed your way. I consider this phenomena a Stockholm Syndrome off-shoot. In your defense, it's understandable that most people would rather not consider just how much of a lie the "official" narratives are these days -- including of course the 9/11 narrative, 0bola's Manchurian life, and the JFK "single bullet/sniper" myth. Come on, if you can't sell a conspiracy theory to Deckard, you're really off in the weeds all by yourself. In your mind, that must make your CT the most Truthy ever. I know -- it's odd that Deckard is buying the "Official Report" right out of the shoot. Who bought him off?? ;-)
Like I said - sometimes crazy people do crazy things. There is no credible evidence that this was a muslim terrorist act, no mater how desperately you want it to be so.
All I am saying is that the facts have not been convincing enough to prove that the pilot was a muslim, let alone a terrorist. All the evidence is pure speculation at this point.
There just isn't enough credible evidence at this point to call this a muslim terrorist act. Sure, maybe I am usually one of the first to jump on the "conspiracy" train, but in this case I'm not buying the muslim terrorist story.
What's Michael Rivero's take on this? He always comes up with an alternative version on events. I think I'll go check his site right now.
Not desperate at all for the Muzzie sandal to fall off -- I know it's not coming. But is it really "crazy" to note that all these purposely crashed planes just happen to be tied to Islamists? The authorites went in exactly the direction I thought; Backed up this guy's "craziness" with the yarn about his mental illness, validated it with some "surprise evidence" of torn up mental health status reports (that didn't stop Lubitz from co-piloting planes), as well as the fiancee's confirmation that, yes, he WAS "crazy." (No news on the religion of Lubitz yet?? Lol...of course not) All the evidence is pure speculation at this point. Guess what? Any rejection of the 9/11 Official Report and presumption of alternative narratives still remain "speculation" as well. I think we can agree with this: The major media and world gubmint(s) have ZERO credibility. And a NWO/subversive agenda supersedes ANY need for the truth or justice.
That may be true in other cases - not here however. Germanwings Co-Pilot Andreas Lubitz Appears to Have Deliberately Crashed Plane With the plane markedly in descent, the captain can be heard knocking on the cockpit door. That sound swelled into frantic banging as the plane neared alpine peaks, setting off audible alarms. “The most plausible interpretation for us is that the co-pilot deliberately refused to open the cockpit door to the captain,” Mr. Robin said. Amid the cacophony, Mr. Lubitz remained silent, the prosecutor said. The only sound coming from the co-pilot, Mr. Robin said, was his breathing. The prosecutor marveled at how it didn’t waver as the A320 entered the final stages of its collision course. “He didn’t say a single word,” Mr. Robin said, adding: “It’s not the breathing of someone who is having a heart attack.” Seems to me that if the guy was indeed a muslim, there would be prayers or an "allah akbar" or two audible. I think we can agree with this: The major media and world gubmint(s) have ZERO credibility. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. And a NWO/subversive agenda supersedes ANY need for the truth or justice. I hardly think that this was all orchestrated by the NWO for their agenda. He was no doubt on some type of anti-depressant drugs, he was mentally unstable. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Maybe? lol Ps... sorry, couldn't resist. I'm not trying to stir shit up. Honest.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
If ISIS could score a victory this sweet, meaning 200 plus lives in a single terroristic act, they would have left enough evidence, To be found after the fact, to be claimed by them after its discovered. You can't stir up "terror", as a "terrorist", if you make people guess who done it. lol
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
OK, I did find one thing interesting, but as far as I can tell, it's just one guy who put up a Facebook page for the pilot, Andreas Lubitz. Kinda defeats the purpose, doesn't it?
Amid the cacophony, Mr. Lubitz remained silent, the prosecutor said. The only sound coming from the co-pilot, Mr. Robin said, was his breathing. The prosecutor marveled at how it didn’t waver as the A320 entered the final stages of its collision course. “He didn’t say a single word,” Mr. Robin said, adding: “It’s not the breathing of someone who is having a heart attack.” Seems to me that if the guy was indeed a muslim, there would be prayers or an "allah akbar" or two audible. Yes, I've read all the "Official Reports"....which aren't too detailed other than parroting the same old, "darkly disturbed" meme. I don't know if the lack of any audible "ALAHU AKBAR!!" chants serves as litmus test of a Muslim zealotry. Lubitz' style was more internal, obviously. Mr. Robin may have marveled at Lubitz' sedate, controlled breathing, but that is easily accountable as the result of plenty of Xanax or Valium that he may have been prescribed for his mental condition (as well as the eternal assurance of 72 virgins-in-waiting.) Confirmation of his religious affiliation IS indeed relevant and was too easily and initially dismissed otherwise. WHY is it deemed unimportant?? IF this heinous act was the portrayal of a "suicidal" maniac, then what is the motivation? "Just crazy" isn't nearly enough for the analytical skeptic. Was he a Satanist? Was he into the the Occult? Who was he "offended" by so much that 149 other people would satisfy his blood-lust? The guy was an avenger. But for what or whom? Just plain "crazy" doesn't premeditated plan the wholesale slaughter like this. Someone with an ideology *does.* Could one could make the case that Lubitz was either a Muslim...OR, Satanist? Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Sure. But am I to understand you now suddenly believe in a new matrix of authenticity and credibility of the major media and as well as world gubmint(s)? As well as their motivation to tell us THE truth? Ooo-kay. You've "evolved"! I hardly think that this was all orchestrated by the NWO for their agenda. He was no doubt on some type of anti-depressant drugs, he was mentally unstable. The NWO and PTB have orchestrated the cover-ups of lesser political/international problems. They do not want the Islamic Chaos Machine shutting down in Europe quite so soon. Were it revealed that Lubitz was a converted Muslim, the green-shoots of growing European nationalism and sovereignty might be seriously derailed. The damage inflicted by a strong, growing Islamic-Europe provides the same under-reported, but effective degree of chaos, demo-disruption, and excuse for a Central Police State that militant Mexican/Black/leftist-anarchists bring to the US. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Except when it's in Bubba's hand. ;-)
Maybe? lol Ps... sorry, couldn't resist. I'm not trying to stir shit up. Honest. And usually, *I'm* riding shotgun with the guy. Just for that, I'm going to find and post a 'Po-Po Taze Dangerous Beagle Puppy, Then Cap Its Azz' A Dozen Times -- And Laugh Over Cold Ones Afterward' story.
Negative. Any evidence would necessarily be buried; When the initial reports emerged that Lubitz was a Muslim, the sh*t was really about to hit the fan. HARD. It got shut down in a flash, while the "crazy" meme was activated even faster. This kind of PR would be reeeealy bad for both Euro-Muzzies, as well as the NWO Euro-Leaders who've been usurping the rights of its Europeans brethren, importing these barbarians, and hanging their own out to dry.
There are dual stories about TWO different Facebook sites having been up. The original was removed almost immediately. Always a red flag to me when the trail of crumbs to the Mother Lode is removed. The more confusion reigns, the more people lose interest and become disinterested. It'll be interesting to follow just how much interest the media and interweb show in this guy and case during this coming week. Will any new personal details, or personal interviews be conducted with family, friends, associates, and Lubitz' hard drive?
The "surprise evidence" are the torn-up results of tests done with two different ophthalmologists who he had consulted for his increasingly blurry vision due to a torn cornea. It was almost certainly going to end his career as a pilot when he took his next annual first-class physical. Vision and cardiac head the list of tests on these flight physicals. Apparently there was quite a haul of different anti-depressant meds confiscated from his apartment.
The Facebook page for Andrea Lubitz Fans might be pranksters. Or it might be CIA dangling some bait to see who hits the Like button or posts on it. We know that Creepbook cooperates fully with CIA and other intel operations around the world. Just like Google and Apple do.
You seem to be ignoring the fact that those "initial reports" were based on the musings of one individual on a personal blog site. The author put two and two together and came up with 5. The pilot was trained in a city (Bremen) where there exists a mosque that has recently been under investigation. He took a break from his job six years ago. And from those two pieces of "evidence" the author concluded that gosh, by golly - Andreas Lubitz MUST be a muslim terrorist. Look I have as much disdain for the MSM as anyone, but from what I have seen so far, there is really no solid evidence that points to this as a terrorist act. What Grand Island said was true. (I can't believe I just typed that) There's really no point to committing a terrorist act if no one knows that it is one. I'm not saying you are wrong Lib - I just need more information other than some sketchy circumstantial evidence posted on someone's blog.
Good reason not to open the actual page. I'm on too many government "lists" as it is.
Bookmarked forever! LOL
I was talking about in his home. They searched his house.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Ha ha...
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
There's really no point to committing a terrorist act if no one knows that it is one. You're riding shotgun with GI now?? Lol... Plane. Locked pilot cabin. Mountain. Mass Murder. You really don't believe there's no "signature" to this? Occam’s Razor applies. IN SPADES. Btw, no, I'm not ignoring the author's 2+2=5 initial reports... But what I will continue NOT to believe is that even IF the Lubitz' Bremen training and hiatus was 6 years ago, he can't be a Muslim. So...what WAS Lubitz doing for those 6 months? Have we an answer on that yet? There was a bit more to the "musings" of the blogger, Jim Hoft, took the info from a German blog (Michael Mannheimer), and translated it from there. What has happened to this blogger? Apparently there's a cyber Fort Marcy Park: Fehler 404. Die angeforderte Seite wurde nicht gefunden. Hoft, who runs The Gateway Pundit, is not exactly a tiny Mom & Pop blog operation or as discredited or as kooky as TC would have everyone believe: Whom do you think might want to discredit Jim Hoft or 'The Gateway Pundit'?? http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/ More info, different source: (snip) A police source in Dusseldorf revealed: “We have a team disassembling his computer, and that of his girlfriend, because the information that we received was that he trawled the dark side of the web visiting, among other things, sites containing gay porn, suicide themes and sexual perversions.” The reports emerged after police started examining documents and a computer from his flat in Dusseldorf – the same one where ripped-up sick notes were discovered in the rubbish. …… Reports have suggested he was troubled by his sexuality and also seeking treatment for vision problems. Lubitz had recent hospital treatment for his eyesight, according to officials close to the German investigation. It was also revealed that the 27-year-old was treated by four psychiatrists in the months leading up to the fatal plane crash, reported the Sun. http://www.libertynews.com/2015/03/police-germanwings-co-pilot-andreas-lubitz-surfed-suicide-gay-porn-sexual-fetish-sites-small-mountain-of-drugs-in-apt/ Move along, nothing to see. Bad eyesight, severe mental problems, treated by multiple psych docs, a possible HOMOSEXUAL....AND, very possibly, a Muslim convert. Nope, NO reason to replace Lubitz as a co-pilot. FWIW, Lufthansa's initial statement: Lubitz was “100% fit to fly.”
Yes. And I still maintain that any "evidence" would necessarily be sifted through and buried. Lost. Incinerated. And otherwise impossible to recover in a manner that would make Hitlery proud.
And *I'm* the CT'er?? Lol...
Wait a minute - you're saying that Lufthansa is in on the conspiracy as well? <http://www.libertynews.com/2015/03/police-germanwings-co-pilot-andreas-lubitz-surfed-suicide-gay-porn-sexual-fetish-sites-small-mountain-of-drugs-in-apt/ Gay porn fetish sites? Small mountain of drugs? That makes him a sexual deviant, not a muslim terrorist. As far as the drugs go, I am willing to stipulate that the doctor prescribed anti-depressant medication and whatever other ungodly concoction he was on is a contributing factor to his mental state.
The term son of perdition is used on twice, once for judas and once for the anti-Christ, now that's evil, I would add our last four presidents.
NYSlimes, today: The Rev. Michael Dietrich, pastor of a Lutheran church on the edge of town where Mr. Lubitz’s mother sometimes played the organ, tried to address the spiritual quandary during his regular sermon Sunday morning. The question posed itself for families of the victims, Pastor Dietrich said, “and also for the family of co-pilot Lubitz who many of us knew personally.” It may be that his mother just fills in for absences of the local organist, perhaps getting paid for the gig. I read elsewhere that the town and local area has a religious composition of 40% Roman Catholic, 33% Lutheran, 25% non-religious (which would leave 12% left over for Muslims, Prots, eastern religions, etc.).
The author put two and two together and came up with 5. I am glad you mentioned this as your high standards of sources is quite impeccable here on LF.
"For the Lord is our Judge, The Lord is our Lawgiver, The Lord is our King; He will save us" (Isaiah 33:22)
I'M saying, every part of this story smells straight up to high heaven (or rather straight down to the gates of hell.) Lufthansa is the parent company of GermanWings. Either they were grossly negligent in their ignorance of Lubitz as a drug-addled mental case, OR, they knew he was an unstable nut receiving heavy pharmaceutical treatment and counseling and yet till allowed Lubitz to co-pilot their equipment. Now which case is it? The narrative being hawked and reinforced 24/7 by the media (and their "parent company," the PTB) is still that Lubitz has simply been an absolute mental case for quite some time -- years. The supposed testimony of Lubitz' supposed ex-fiancee has been to support that notion. Then HOW can Lubitz' mental illness possibly be a surprise to Lufthansa/GermanWings? Gay porn fetish sites? Small mountain of drugs? That makes him a sexual deviant, not a muslim terrorist. This particular red herring is designed to throw everyone off the scent of investigating any past/recent Muslim leanings and interests. It also reinforces the role of major media as a crucial facilitator of disinformation. Of ALL people, you should know this. As far as the drugs go, I am willing to stipulate that the doctor prescribed anti-depressant medication and whatever other ungodly concoction he was on is a contributing factor to his mental state. Well, no kidding. It is the logical conclusion, but also feeds conveniently into the headline, 'DARKLY DISTURBED MAN ON ANTI-DEPRESSANTS KILLS SELF' But oh wait -- he murdered another 149 people. Mass murder still doesn't file the profile of a "darkly depressed" mental case, so what was the motivation? "Crazy" ain't cuttin' it. "Depressed" ain't cuttin' it. And still NO clarification of by authoritahs of Lubitz' "religion," yet no reporters are pressing for an answer? The drug scripts would help explain why Lubitz was so sedate (and not screaming, "Allahu Akbar!"), knowing full he was commandeering a suicide mission; The kind of confidant calm that's a trait of radical Muslim Kamikazes who believe their 72 virgins are at business end of their satanic transaction.
Too bad investigators at the crash site didn't confirm smashed watermelon and sledgehammer in the cockpit...worn clown shoes, or found a bloody puppet entangled on his lap. Now THAT would have convinced me to dismiss the "A-HA! Muzzie!" angle.
The Rev. Michael Dietrich, pastor of a Lutheran church on the edge of town where Mr. Lubitz’s mother sometimes played the organ, tried to address the spiritual quandary during his regular sermon Sunday morning. The question posed itself for families of the victims, Pastor Dietrich said, “and also for the family of co-pilot Lubitz who many of us knew personally.” Well, there might be anger in this quaint little town, but they're gonna have to suck it up. I commend any reporters who are able to find ANY local scoop on their local demon, but I doubt it. They're better off visiting Bremen. Lubitz mother had been the organist for a while according to reports I'd seen....It's obviously her church, could be it's a paid gig in any case. The local Lutheran reverend (according to reports) was said to be "praying" for sonny-boy family, as well as for the families 149 murder victims. I'd loved to have heard his sermon yesterday. The same Lutheran Rev. Dietrich admitted he remembered Lubitz....but it was 13-14 years ago. It's noted he claims, Dietrich is praying "for the family of co-pilot Lubitz who many of us knew personally.” Are we to interpret this statement has also including Andreas Lubitz, Hometown-boy-makes-bad? OR, everyone BUT?
They've recovered part of Lubitz's body. We'll likely soon have some numbers on how much and what kind of SSRIs (and other drugs) he was using.
Ambiguous, perhaps deliberately so. Lutheran clergy can be a little cagey. Or it's just a case of so-so translation from German. Because pilots have medical privacy. They do have to pass the annual flight physicals but are otherwise private about their medical care. Only the flight physicals are released to the company. So any psychiatric or vision testing would be private and the airline would have no idea at all. I see that they're now saying that Lubitz thought he had a torn cornea giving him blurry vision in one eye. Supposedly, the exams from the two ophthalmologists indicated no physical defects and suggested his blurry vision was psychosomatic but Lubitz remained convinced that he would fail his next flight physical on the vision tests. Another Euroweenie airline switched to the two-people-in-cockpit-at-all-times rule like America has had since 9/11. I bet they will all switch by the end of the week, at least for passenger flights.
Since when are "musings" a bad thing? That's the heart and soul of a CT'er! Sources...sources...I remember the days when ol' Deckard would rightfully ridicule those (yukon) whose gold standards of of truth and info were indeed the NYT, FOX, the MSM. THAT said... 'Gateway Pundit' IS a great, credible blog and source of current non-MSM stories. Jim Hoft took and ran with the Muzzie-angle reported from no AWOL German blogger (Michael Mannheimer.) That there is no further back-up of Mannheimer's report doesn't necessarily discredit either; Just doesn't confirm what had been reported. Here's an interesting observation from a Freeper's own observations that should raise a few eyebrows and suspicions: We DO NOT KNOW the motive for this mass murder. This morning that when I read the Daily Mail report, I looked to the FB site for “Kathrin Goldbach” to see if there were any clues, and found a FB site for a German “Kathrin Goldbach” which had been up for several years, and had a link “liking” an Islamic group which called for Muslims to “Fight Like Ali, and Die Like Hussain,” a link to a group popular with Syrians, numerous Pakistani girlfriends, and one Pakistani female friend who posted a photo of smiling Muslim women holding submachine guns along with the text “verry nice.” I found this disturbing, especially after FB site got quickly taken down after the DM report. It may all be a coincidence, but examining, since the motive is unknown. While there is debate on issues of depression, etc., we don’t see many people who are “depressed” committing mass murder of 150 people. Is that logic being used to realize the need investigate other aspects of this mass murder? Fascinating Facebook entry by Lubitz girlfriend, Kathrin Goldbach -- would you all agree? Of course, some are going to doubt the validity of Goldbach's entry, aren't they? Let's remember -- the two lovebirds, Lubitz and Goldbach were together, what? 7 years?? Maybe now-disappeared blogger Michael Mannheimer was onto something, eh? Maybe a conspiracy IS afoot...eh??
We'll likely soon have some numbers on how much and what kind of SSRIs (and other drugs) he was using. No doubt that his scattered remains will have been found to have been saturated with a cocktail of drugs... I'm obviously far more interested in the scrutiny of his contacts, friends, passport history, paper/cyber trail and emails, religion, ideology...and new found dreams, hobbies and activities.
Only the flight physicals are released to the company. So any psychiatric or vision testing would be private and the airline would have no idea at all. ...I see that they're now saying that Lubitz thought he had a torn cornea giving him blurry vision in one eye. I realize there's a medical privacy issue that's respected in Germany. But to what extent and liability? If Lubitz divulged thoughts of suicide or murder to his mental health "Consigliere," is the law structured that it can not be shared with authoritahs (or employer) -- no matter how heinous or dangerous? Zilch obligation by either party? Or what of the extent of "privacy" in a case of a pilot with legal blindness? Is this some kind of "honor system" where the ONLY the patient can share info, and only at his/her discretion? Another Euroweenie airline switched to the two-people-in-cockpit-at-all-times rule like America has had since 9/11. I bet they will all switch by the end of the week, at least for passenger flights. Can o' worms....The events of 9/11 screwed our world a thousand different ways. Might be prudent to employ air marshals or, at minimum, the employment of a private, stealth, armed "passenger." But again, this is Europe.
That's an important piece to answer. Depressed people usually don't take loads of other people with them.
"For the Lord is our Judge, The Lord is our Lawgiver, The Lord is our King; He will save us" (Isaiah 33:22)
It is medical privacy just like we have in the States. Strictly confidential. Much of what is known publicly comes from what has been found in his apartment.
The ol' Matrix Red Pill, Blue Pill conundrum is where we've been at since 9/11.
#49. To: TooConservative, Deckard (#48)
(Edited)
You kinda have a kneejerk habit of immediately rejecting any explanation of any news event with some homespun conspiracy theory.
#50. To: Liberator (#47)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#51. To: Liberator (#49)
(Edited)
I know -- it's odd that Deckard is buying the "Official Report" right out of the shoot.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#52. To: TooConservative (#48)
Come on, if you can't sell a conspiracy theory to Deckard, you're really off in the weeds all by yourself.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#53. To: Deckard (#52)
#54. To: Deckard, TooConservative (#50)
There is no credible evidence that this was a muslim terrorist act, no mater how desperately you want it to be so.
#55. To: Liberator (#54)
(Edited)
But is it really "crazy" to note that all these purposely crashed planes just happen to be tied to Islamists?
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#56. To: Deckard (#52)
(Edited)
Sure, maybe I am usually one of the first to jump on the "conspiracy" train
#57. To: Deckard, liberator (#55)
(Edited)
Seems to me that if the guy was indeed a muslim, there would be prayers or an "allah akbar" or two audible.
#58. To: Liberator, TooConservative, AKA Stone (#54)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#59. To: GrandIsland (#57)
You can't stir up "terror", as a "terrorist", if you make people guess who done it. lol
#60. To: Deckard (#55)
The most plausible interpretation for us is that the co-pilot deliberately refused to open the cockpit door to the captain,” Mr. Robin said.
#61. To: GrandIsland, Deckard (#56)
(Edited)
Sure, maybe I am usually one of the first to jump on the "conspiracy" train
#62. To: GrandIsland, Deckard (#57)
If ISIS could score a victory this sweet, meaning 200 plus lives in a single terroristic act, they would have left enough evidence, To be found after the fact, to be claimed by them after its discovered.
#63. To: Deckard (#58)
#64. To: Liberator (#54)
The authorites went in exactly the direction I thought; Backed up this guy's "craziness" with the yarn about his mental illness, validated it with some "surprise evidence" of torn up mental health status reports (that didn't stop Lubitz from co-piloting planes), as well as the fiancee's confirmation that, yes, he WAS "crazy."
#65. To: Deckard (#58)
#66. To: Liberator, GrandIsland, TooConservative (#62)
(Edited)
When the initial reports emerged that Lubitz was a Muslim, the sh*t was really about to hit the fan.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#67. To: TooConservative (#65)
The Facebook page for Andrea Lubitz Fans might be pranksters. Or it might be CIA dangling some bait to see who hits the Like button or posts on it. We know that Creepbook cooperates fully with CIA and other intel operations around the world.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#68. To: Deckard, GrandIsland (#66)
What Grand Island said was true. (I can't believe I just typed that)
#69. To: Liberator (#62)
Any evidence would necessarily be buried;
#70. To: TooConservative (#68)
Bookmarked forever!
#71. To: Deckard, GrandIsland, TooConservative, ALL (#66)
What Grand Island said was true. (I can't believe I just typed that)
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#72. To: GrandIsland (#69)
I was talking about in his home. They searched his house.
#73. To: TooConservative, Deckard (#65)
The Facebook page for Andrea Lubitz Fans might be pranksters. Or it might be CIA dangling some bait to see who hits the Like button or posts on it.
#74. To: Liberator (#71)
(Edited)
Nope, NO reason to replace Lubitz as a co-pilot. FWIW, Lufthansa's initial statement: Lubitz was “100% fit to fly.”
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#75. To: TooConservative (#19)
#76. To: Liberator (#73)
#77. To: Liberator (#62)
Then the initial reports emerged that Lubitz was a Muslim, the sh*t was really about to hit the fan.
And there is anger at the media onslaught that, for several days, made it almost impossible to walk the cobblestones of the city’s picturesque old quarter without being accosted by a camera crew looking for local reaction.
#78. To: Deckard, Liberator, TooConservative (#66)
You seem to be ignoring the fact that those "initial reports" were based on the musings of one individual on a personal blog site.
#79. To: Deckard, TooConservative, redleghunter, jeremaid, Stoner, A K A Stoner, CZ82 (#74)
Wait a minute - you're saying that Lufthansa is in on the conspiracy as well?
#80. To: TooConservative (#76)
#81. To: TooConservative, Deckard, redleghunter, jeremaid, Stoner, A K A Stoner, CZ82, Vicomte13 (#77)
And there is anger at the media onslaught that, for several days, made it almost impossible to walk the cobblestones of the city’s picturesque old quarter without being accosted by a camera crew looking for local reaction.
It may be that his mother just fills in for absences of the local organist, perhaps getting paid for the gig.
#82. To: Liberator (#80)
Too bad investigators at the crash site didn't confirm smashed watermelon and sledgehammer in the cockpit...worn clown shoes, or found a bloody puppet entangled on his lap. Now THAT would have convinced me to dismiss the "A-HA! Muzzie!" angle.
#83. To: Liberator (#81)
(Edited)
It's noted he claims, Dietrich is praying "for the family of co-pilot Lubitz who many of us knew personally.”
The narrative being hawked and reinforced 24/7 by the media (and their "parent company," the PTB) is still that Lubitz has simply been an absolute mental case for quite some time -- years. The supposed testimony of Lubitz' supposed ex-fiancee has been to support that notion. Then HOW can Lubitz' mental illness possibly be a surprise to Lufthansa/GermanWings?
#84. To: redleghunter, TooConservative, Deckard, jeremaid, Stoner, A K A Stoner, CZ82, Grand Island, Vicomte13 (#78)
To: allendale
#85. To: TooConservative (#82)
They've recovered part of Lubitz's body.
#86. To: TooConservative (#83)
....Pilots have medical privacy. They do have to pass the annual flight physicals but are otherwise private about their medical care.
#87. To: Liberator (#79)
Well, no kidding. It is the logical conclusion, but also feeds conveniently into the headline, 'DARKLY DISTURBED MAN ON ANTI-DEPRESSANTS KILLS SELF' But oh wait -- he murdered another 149 people. Mass murder still doesn't file the profile of a "darkly depressed" mental case, so what was the motivation? "Crazy" ain't cuttin' it. "Depressed" ain't cuttin' it. And still NO clarification of by authoritahs of Lubitz' "religion," yet no reporters are pressing for an answer?
#88. To: Liberator (#86)
If Lubitz divulged thoughts of suicide or murder to his mental health "Consigliere," is the law structured that it can not be shared with authoritahs (or employer) -- no matter how heinous or dangerous? Zilch obligation by either party? Or what of the extent of "privacy" in a case of a pilot with legal blindness? Is this some kind of "honor system" where the ONLY the patient can share info, and only at his/her discretion?
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