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Title: Miricle reports wanted
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Published: Mar 26, 2015
Author: Pastor Bob Celeste for ACP
Post Date: 2015-03-26 17:21:09 by BobCeleste
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Some time in the very near future, God willing, I am going to do a thought on the miracles Christ is doing in the lives of Born Again Washed in the Blood of the Lamb Christians. If you are a true Born Again Washed in the Blood of the Lamb Christians and if you have first hand knowledge of a miracle, I would love the details. Please either post here of email, using the LibertysFlame email service, to me with "Miracle" in the subject line. Please try to keep it to 200 words or under.
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#3. To: BobCeleste (#0)
I have three of the latter: firsthand knowledge (indeed, direct participation in), but I doubt that I would satisfy your definition to be "a true Born Again Washed in the Blood of the Lamb Christian", being that I am a Roman Catholic. It doesn't seem you want to hear about miracles that happen to my kind, so I won't spam your thread, but I'll read with interest.
It doesn't seem you want to hear about miracles that happen to my kind, so I won't spam your thread, but I'll read with interest. Fred asked " why haven't we seen or heard of miracles like those in the biblical times." Bob seems to forget that the orignial miracles performed by Christ were all to those that were not "Born Again Washed in the Blood of the Lamb Christians" - they were anything but. Bob's belief that miracles only happen to "Born Again Washed in the Blood of the Lamb Christians" reveals a very ugly side of him that is anything but Christ like.
If you are saying miracles aren't for christians. Then I think you are wrong. Lazarus.
Why do "Christians" require "miracles" to support their faith as evidence of their God?
Some do, some don't. The apostles all saw Jesus do hundreds of miracles. Yet even after the greatest miracle of all, the resurrection of Jesus Christ, Thomas still required touching Christ's wounds to believe. That's where Christ said that those who believed and did not see would be blessed. In that one passage in John 20 Jesus pointed out He would have followers who would seek subjective proof of Him and those who would be blessed to have faith in the objective evidence of His testimony. Now why did Bob specifically point to "born again or born from above" for his miracle subject? I think (he will tell me if I am wrong) it is because by God's Grace, regeneration of mind, heart and soul leading to repentance and salvation through Christ is a miracle in itself. It stands alone. It's personal as Vic alluded to. I think the miracles of healing, reviving a dead child, multiplying fish and bread, walking on water, parting the Red Sea many more, has a different purpose IMO. Those are to prove what God says, promises and commands. Where God makes a claim His Power is manifest. If Jesus just came preaching a Law the Jews already knew and claimed to be the Messiah, we would never have heard of him. There were many before Him who did just that. They came in their own word and witness. So what? I agree. What makes it different is Christ came doing miracles which confirmed the words He spoke. He did so in front of hundreds and sometimes thousands of witnesses. This was topped off with His resurrection from the dead. He was in the grave 3 days and came back with a glorified Body. Now we also see in the gospels there were people who saw these miracles...They witnessed them and still denied Him. So I don't think Bob is talking about those miracles. I think the miracle in question is what we see in John 3. How God by His Grace could take a damned destitute sinner as me, lead me to sorrowful repentance and show me the Grace of His salvation through Jesus Christ. Then change my life such that I could not fathom how it happened. There are miracles in my life and answered prayer in which strengthened my faith...built faith, which were also His Grace. Some of them happening without me even asking. I hope this helps address the various questions posted, not just my buddy bukaroo.
Your rant spun off into LALA Land. You are not straight forward with a response to my earlier post.
I addressed your question and others. You asked why Christians "require" miracles. I stated some do and some don't. And then told you why.
If you believe there is a GOD, there is no reason for to require "miracles or otherwise.
The fact is YHWH did and continues to do miracles. He established His truth in both Word (verbal and written) and Power (miracles). If not this way just any fraud can claim to be a deity. Muslims have the Qur'an; Mormons have the BOM; the Eastern religions have their self awareness. They all have words, some written. They all have the witness of men. They all lack the Word with demonstrated witnessed Power. They all lack the Resurrection, which is our promise of eternal life. The above may not seem the best answer. However it is the only answer. Christ came in Word and Power. His disciples and apostles filled with the Holy Spirit preached the Gospel in Word and Power. We have witness of this in what they spoke, how they conducted their lives and in what they wrote. We have witness today of Christ's Word and Power as it manifests in our lives. It's real. We just don't read a book. The book has the message of what spiritually manifests in our lives. That is the miracle referenced by Bob. This message has no denomination; cannot be bought with money; cannot be obtained through self meditation; cannot be reached by trying to be a good person. It is the Work of the Holy Spirit by God's Divine Grace. Thanks be to God.
More proof about the mythical, YHWH that you have examined. If you can't discuss one GOD, you make up another with a "new" name to support your claims.
Your comment is incorrect. YHWH is the revealed Name of God.
How can the creator be "revealed" when it is ALL a mystery? Through your Bible? Or some so-called Christian preacher on a Sunday morning begging for donations to support his worldly habits?
You are going to have to search your answers in the scriptures. It is clear you ask things clearly stated there.
Although I can honestly admit I have not read the Bible for some time, I don't recall YHWH. But, admittedly I haven't read all the many versions of the Bible either. Which one is YHWH contained within?
In most English language translations YHWH is rendered LORD. There are variations through ancient language development in the Hebrew which give us YHWH as pronounced Yehovah or Jehovah. There was a second Jewish temple man-made tradition which forbid using the Name of God YHWH. Instead even today most Jews will only say HaShem (The Name) and write God as G_D. Many Christian translators kept the Jewish tradition and the Greek LXX tradition of rendering YHWH as LORD. There is no prohibition in scriptures to do this other than not take The Name of God in vain. Two examples of English Bibles which use Jehovah instead of LORD in the OT are the LEB and ASV Bibles. For the NT there is no conflict. We are told: Acts 4: 10 be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even in him doth this man stand here before you whole. 11 He is the stone which was set at nought of you the builders, which was made the head of the corner. 12 And in none other is there salvation: for neither is there any other name under heaven, that is given among men, wherein we must be saved.(ASV) In the Hebrew Jesus is Yeshua. Which means "God is Salvation." More: The first part is the “prefix” form of the Tetragrammaton—God’s Four-Letter Name: Yod-He-Vav-He or YHVH.In the Hebrew Bible “Yeho-” is used at the beginning of certain proper names: Jehoshaphat, Jehoiachin, Jehonathan (In Medieval English the letter “J” was pronounced as “Y”). The “suffix” form of the Tetragrammaton is “- yah” (“-iah” in Greek, as in Isaiah, Jeremiah, Zechariah, or Halleluiah). The second part is a form of the Hebrew verb yasha which means to deliver, save, or rescue. Symbolically, the name Yehoshua/Yeshua/Jesus conveys the idea that God (YHVH) delivers or saves (his people).
In German "J" is pronounced as "Y". Thus, Joachin = Yo-ah-chhhh-een. In Hebrew, there is no "J". There is Yod. It's pictograph is an arm and hand, pointing. Yod also stands for "I". So, it's not Jesus, really. It's Yeshua. Nor was there a Joshua. He was also Yehoshua (originally called Hoshea; Moses changed his name). It's not Jerusalem, it's Yerushalayim. Also, it's not Isaac, it's Yitzak. And Isaiah?, there was none. He was Yesha'yahu - YHWH is salvation. "Jeremiah" is really Yirmiyahu, which means "Yah lifts up". Y, pictographically, is the arm and hand of God. H, pictographically, is a surprised man going "Hey!", which is the name of the letter. It means the infusion of breath, which is spirit.
Amen, great run down. Goes back to the paleo-Hebrew we discussed last year.
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#4. To: Vicomte13, BobCeleste, fred mertz (#3)
I have three of the latter: firsthand knowledge (indeed, direct participation in), but I doubt that I would satisfy your definition to be "a true Born Again Washed in the Blood of the Lamb Christian", being that I am a Roman Catholic.
#12. To: SOSO (#4)
Bob seems to forget that the orignial miracles performed by Christ were all to those that were not "Born Again Washed in the Blood of the Lamb Christians" - they were anything but.
#13. To: A K A Stone (#12)
Lazarus
#22. To: buckeroo, SOSO, Vicomte13, GarySpFc, liberator, BobCeleste, Don (#13)
Why do "Christians" require "miracles" to support their faith as evidence of their God?
#23. To: redleghunter (#22)
(Edited)
#24. To: buckeroo (#23)
#25. To: redleghunter (#24)
You asked why Christians "require" miracles. I stated some do and some don't. And then told you why.
#26. To: buckeroo, Vicomte13, BobCeleste, Don, liberator, GarySpFc (#25)
#35. To: redleghunter (#26)
YHWH
#54. To: buckeroo (#35)
#56. To: redleghunter (#54)
YHWH is the revealed Name of God.
#57. To: buckeroo (#56)
#58. To: redleghunter (#57)
You are going to have to search your answers in the scriptures. It is clear you ask things clearly stated there.
#59. To: buckeroo, Vicomte13 (#58)
#60. To: redleghunter (#59)
(In Medieval English the letter “J” was pronounced as “Y”)
#61. To: Vicomte13 (#60)
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