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Title: Woman Might Not Face Homicide Charges for Cutting 8-Month-Old Baby Out of Mother's Womb
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URL Source: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/wom ... onth-old-baby-out-mothers-womb
Published: Mar 20, 2015
Author: SADIE GURMAN and NICHOLAS RICCARDI
Post Date: 2015-03-23 22:37:38 by lana
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Views: 3968
Comments: 37

Woman Might Not Face Homicide Charges for Cutting 8-Month-Old Baby Out of Mother's Womb

LONGMONT, Colo. (AP) — A Colorado woman accused of luring an expectant mother to a basement and cutting the baby from her belly might not face homicide charges in the child's death because of the way criminal law in the U.S. has become entangled in abortion politics.

In a highly charged debate that has played out across the country, Colorado has twice rejected proposals to make the violent death of a fetus a homicide, refusing to join 38 other states and the federal government for fear such a law would be used to restrict abortions.

That could complicate things for prosecutors in the case against Dynel Lane, 34, arrested in the grisly attack at her home Wednesday on a nearly eight-months-pregnant Michelle Wilkins. Wilkins survived; her baby girl died.

"Under Colorado law, essentially no murder charges can be brought if the child did not live outside of the mother," said Stan Garnett, district attorney of liberal Boulder County.

Keith Mason, the president of Personhood USA, an anti-abortion group that has been pushing for a fetal homicide law in Colorado, called the situation "literally absurd."

Lane remains in jail for now on suspicion of attempted murder and other crimes.

Attorneys and activists said the key issue will be whether the baby was alive outside the mother and whether the act that led to the death occurred outside her body. Lane's attorney, Kathryn Herold, asked that a defense expert be present during the autopsy on Friday.

"In this particular case, the cause of death is going to be essential," Herold said.

Fetal homicide laws have typically been promoted by abortion foes and opposed by abortion rights supporters, who fear such measures could be a backdoor way to attack the right to terminate a pregnancy.

Douglas Johnson, legislative director of the National Right to Life Committee, rejected that notion, saying: "Some of them have been in existence for 30 years, and they haven't had any impact on legal abortions."

In New Hampshire last week, the Republican-controlled legislature passed bills that would make the state the 39th to classify the violent killing of an unborn child a homicide. The state's Democratic governor, Maggie Hassan, a staunch abortion rights supporter who may run for the Senate in 2016, has refused to say whether she would sign them.

Colorado Democrats rejected a GOP fetal-homicide bill in 2013. And voters defeated a similar ballot measure, 65 percent to 35 percent, last fall.

"The issue we were wrestling with is how you can hold offenders accountable and have some semblance of justice and not interfere with a woman's reproductive rights," said Democratic state Rep. Mike Foote, who is also a prosecutor.

Foote helped push through a law allowing extra felony charges against anyone who commits a crime that causes the death of a fetus. The law can add up to 32 years to a prison sentence; the top punishment for homicide in Colorado is the death penalty or life in prison.

In all but one of the 16 other instances in the U.S. since 1987 in which a pregnant woman had a baby violently removed from her womb, the mother died, according to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.

Wilkins, 26, went to Lane's home in response to a Craigslist ad offering baby clothes. Lane had been telling her family recently that she was pregnant, according to court records.

Her husband told investigators that when he came home early from work to meet her for a prenatal appointment, he found her covered in blood and a baby gasping for breath in a bathtub.

Lane told her husband she had a miscarriage, and he took her and the baby to a hospital, where the child was pronounced dead, authorities said. The Boulder County coroner completed an autopsy on Friday but said the cause and manner of the baby's death require more investigation.

Wilkins managed to call 911 about 2 1/2 hours after she entered the Lane home, and police arrived after the couple had left. Investigators found her on a bed in a pool of blood.

On Friday, Wilkins' parents issued a statement saying their daughter was stabbed with an ordinary kitchen knife and left for dead.

"We cannot begin to fathom the depths of depravity and evil which drove her attacker. ... One life was ended and another scarred beyond imagination in this senseless act," the statement said.

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Jennifer Farrar of the Associated Press' News Research Center in New York and Kathleen Ronayne in Concord, New Hampshire, contributed to this report.

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#14. To: lana, rlk, Vicomte13, liberator (#0)

A Colorado woman accused of luring an expectant mother to a basement

I guess the question is why did this woman get 'lured' into a stranger's basement. The situation and circumstances stink already.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-24   10:48:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: redleghunter, lana, rlk, Vicomte13 (#14)

I guess the question is why did this woman get 'lured' into a stranger's basement. The situation and circumstances stink already.

A private "transaction" gone awry??

Ugggh... With NO moral standards, and God's keister tossed into the dumpster, this is the society we wind up with.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-24   10:54:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Liberator (#15)

this is the society we wind up with

Only for awhile.

It is a weak and rotten one, and sterile. The babies are produced by immigrants. They will grow up with the immigrants' values and religion. And most of them will implement those values and religion in their adult lives, not the values and religion of the weak, rotten and sterile culture they are destined to replace.

The future belongs to the people living in it. Demography is destiny.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-03-24   11:49:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Vicomte13 (#16)

The babies are produced by immigrants. They will grow up with the immigrants' values and religion.

Who ate the Anasazi?

VxH  posted on  2015-03-24   12:22:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: VxH (#18)

Who ate the Anasazi?

I don't know who they were. Were they eaten? I don't know who did it.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-03-24   13:30:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Vicomte13 (#23)

I don't know who they were. Were they eaten? I don't know who did it.

Well, there's a plethora of Archaeological evidence

"The many small pieces of unweathered teeth and skulls and postcranial scrap suggest, but do not prove, that the death of these people occurred at the burial site." Moreover, "every skull, regardless of age or sex, had the brain exposed." Heads had been placed on flat rocks and smashed open, apparently so that the brain could be removed. He went on to say that most of the bones--not only the skulls--also showed marks of cutting, chopping, dismemberment, butchering, "defleshing," and roasting. The larger bones had been broken apart and the marrow scraped out, or, in the case of spongy bone, reamed out. Turner and Morris concluded that the Polacca Wash bones represented "the most convincing evidence of cannibalism in all Southwest archaeology."

http://www.prestonchild.com/book...-Douglas-Preston;art46,62

Not that such evidence has any impact upon the religified Aztlan Mechista crowd - or the Roman sun-parrots who think they can import and control them.

VxH  posted on  2015-03-24   15:56:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: VxH (#26)

Ok, so, somewhere in the American Southwest, at some point, some people ate some other people.

That was also true in Scotland and other places.

You imply that the genetic origin of some Mexicans is in such people (we know that the Aztecs ate human hearts), and that THEREFORE, their descendants are evil today.

I don't see why it should follow for them any more than it does for the Scots.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-03-24   16:52:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Vicomte13 (#29)

You imply that the genetic origin of some Mexicans is in such people (we know that the Aztecs ate human hearts), and that THEREFORE, their descendants are evil today.

Only to the extent that culture might be impacted by genetics.

And the culture of Aztlan is alive and well.

VxH  posted on  2015-03-24   17:00:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: VxH (#30)

And the culture of Aztlan is alive and well.

Are you actually, really, in the real world, even remotely worried that human cannibalism is going to breakout in the Southwest because of illegal immigration?

Really?

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-03-24   17:07:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Vicomte13 (#32) (Edited)

Cannibalism breaks out wherever and whenever resources are sufficiently limited and populations are sufficiently great.

Just ask the Chinese.

www.amazon.com/Scarlet-Me...lism-Modern/dp/0813326168

The Horror!

VxH  posted on  2015-03-24   17:28:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: VxH (#33)

Cannibalism breaks out wherever and whenever resources are sufficiently limited and populations are sufficiently great.

In which case it doesn't matter who ate the Anasazi, does it?

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-03-24   17:38:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Vicomte13 (#34)

In which case it doesn't matter who ate the Anasazi, does it?

It probably mattered to the Anasazi.

"The babies are produced by immigrants.

Do the immigrants and their sun-parrot herders have a plan for how they're going to feed them beyond handing them an EBT card?

You ever live someplace like Santa Ana and experienced the demographic shift 1st hand?

VxH  posted on  2015-03-24   17:54:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#36. To: VxH (#35)

You ever live someplace like Santa Ana and experienced the demographic shift 1st hand?

I grew up in Detroit.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-03-24 21:20:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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