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Title: Woman Might Not Face Homicide Charges for Cutting 8-Month-Old Baby Out of Mother's Womb
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URL Source: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/wom ... onth-old-baby-out-mothers-womb
Published: Mar 20, 2015
Author: SADIE GURMAN and NICHOLAS RICCARDI
Post Date: 2015-03-23 22:37:38 by lana
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Woman Might Not Face Homicide Charges for Cutting 8-Month-Old Baby Out of Mother's Womb LONGMONT, Colo. (AP) — A Colorado woman accused of luring an expectant mother to a basement and cutting the baby from her belly might not face homicide charges in the child's death because of the way criminal law in the U.S. has become entangled in abortion politics. In a highly charged debate that has played out across the country, Colorado has twice rejected proposals to make the violent death of a fetus a homicide, refusing to join 38 other states and the federal government for fear such a law would be used to restrict abortions. That could complicate things for prosecutors in the case against Dynel Lane, 34, arrested in the grisly attack at her home Wednesday on a nearly eight-months-pregnant Michelle Wilkins. Wilkins survived; her baby girl died. "Under Colorado law, essentially no murder charges can be brought if the child did not live outside of the mother," said Stan Garnett, district attorney of liberal Boulder County. Keith Mason, the president of Personhood USA, an anti-abortion group that has been pushing for a fetal homicide law in Colorado, called the situation "literally absurd." Lane remains in jail for now on suspicion of attempted murder and other crimes. Attorneys and activists said the key issue will be whether the baby was alive outside the mother and whether the act that led to the death occurred outside her body. Lane's attorney, Kathryn Herold, asked that a defense expert be present during the autopsy on Friday. "In this particular case, the cause of death is going to be essential," Herold said. Fetal homicide laws have typically been promoted by abortion foes and opposed by abortion rights supporters, who fear such measures could be a backdoor way to attack the right to terminate a pregnancy. Douglas Johnson, legislative director of the National Right to Life Committee, rejected that notion, saying: "Some of them have been in existence for 30 years, and they haven't had any impact on legal abortions." In New Hampshire last week, the Republican-controlled legislature passed bills that would make the state the 39th to classify the violent killing of an unborn child a homicide. The state's Democratic governor, Maggie Hassan, a staunch abortion rights supporter who may run for the Senate in 2016, has refused to say whether she would sign them. Colorado Democrats rejected a GOP fetal-homicide bill in 2013. And voters defeated a similar ballot measure, 65 percent to 35 percent, last fall. "The issue we were wrestling with is how you can hold offenders accountable and have some semblance of justice and not interfere with a woman's reproductive rights," said Democratic state Rep. Mike Foote, who is also a prosecutor. Foote helped push through a law allowing extra felony charges against anyone who commits a crime that causes the death of a fetus. The law can add up to 32 years to a prison sentence; the top punishment for homicide in Colorado is the death penalty or life in prison. In all but one of the 16 other instances in the U.S. since 1987 in which a pregnant woman had a baby violently removed from her womb, the mother died, according to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. Wilkins, 26, went to Lane's home in response to a Craigslist ad offering baby clothes. Lane had been telling her family recently that she was pregnant, according to court records. Her husband told investigators that when he came home early from work to meet her for a prenatal appointment, he found her covered in blood and a baby gasping for breath in a bathtub. Lane told her husband she had a miscarriage, and he took her and the baby to a hospital, where the child was pronounced dead, authorities said. The Boulder County coroner completed an autopsy on Friday but said the cause and manner of the baby's death require more investigation. Wilkins managed to call 911 about 2 1/2 hours after she entered the Lane home, and police arrived after the couple had left. Investigators found her on a bed in a pool of blood. On Friday, Wilkins' parents issued a statement saying their daughter was stabbed with an ordinary kitchen knife and left for dead. "We cannot begin to fathom the depths of depravity and evil which drove her attacker. ... One life was ended and another scarred beyond imagination in this senseless act," the statement said. ___ Jennifer Farrar of the Associated Press' News Research Center in New York and Kathleen Ronayne in Concord, New Hampshire, contributed to this report.
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#1. To: lana (#0)
America needs illegal aliens to fill the vacuuous USA legal understanding of a nation all gone wrong.
It needs common sense, but I don't see Illegal Aliens supplying much of that.
Sure they do. 0bama's plan for change in America and hope is serious stuff for about 12 million illegals that shall procreate for the lazy, rich and reticient Americans instead.
The Holy Roman Empire's slaves have always been very procreative.
Stats show a sharp decline in this country and Europe. Seems Evangelicals have become the baby producers in the 21st century.
"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)
Yeah that makes a lot of sense...not. 38 states and the feds would recognize this as homicide yet the only worry Colorado has is this may prevent more abortions. Case in point of what happens in a secular humanist relativistic society. Let's not jeopardize voluntary abortions while this poor woman had a forced abortion at 8 months. Isaiah 5:20.
"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)
I dunno about Europe, but I can see with my own eyes what's being imported over the border into el Norte. Drop Anchor!
2 Kings 17:30-32 30 And the men of Babylon made Succoth-benoth, and the men of Cuth made Nergal, and the men of Hamath made Ashima, 31 And the Avites made Nibhaz and Tartak, and the Sepharvites burnt their children in fire to Adrammelech and Anammelech, the gods of Sepharvaim. 32 So they feared the Lord, and made unto themselves of the lowest of them priests of the high places, which sacrificed for them in the houses of the high places. KJV
2 Kings 23:26-27 26 Notwithstanding the Lord turned not from the fierceness of his great wrath, wherewith his anger was kindled against Judah, because of all the provocations that Manasseh had provoked him withal. 27 And the Lord said, I will remove Judah also out of my sight, as I have removed Israel, and will cast off this city Jerusalem which I have chosen, and the house of which I said, My name shall be there. I forget, were Judah and Israel secular when the Lord removed and cast them -- or were they into that whole worship of state-established created/religious things, again?
Execute the God damned bitch for crimes againt humanity under lex non scripta.
They were pagan practicing humanists.
"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)
Agree. I would suggest a public & televised execution. Maybe burn at the stake!
Si vis pacem, para bellum
I think first degree murder fits just fine.
"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)
I guess the question is why did this woman get 'lured' into a stranger's basement. The situation and circumstances stink already.
"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)
A private "transaction" gone awry?? Ugggh... With NO moral standards, and God's keister tossed into the dumpster, this is the society we wind up with.
Only for awhile. It is a weak and rotten one, and sterile. The babies are produced by immigrants. They will grow up with the immigrants' values and religion. And most of them will implement those values and religion in their adult lives, not the values and religion of the weak, rotten and sterile culture they are destined to replace. The future belongs to the people living in it. Demography is destiny.
Uhuh. Very religious ones. But then that's the nature of Ba'al, Religion, and your Created Things... then, and now, and always.
Who ate the Anasazi?
From what I've read, she went there to buy baby cloths in response to an add on Craigs List.
Still...a basement. All the horror and slasher movies always start with someone going in the basement or attic.
"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)
This poor soul didn't realize she was doomed to play a part in a horror movie. She was brought to a storage area, cut open, and her baby removed. That qualifies as an inhumane act of criminality.
I agree. Any three year old has the basic morals to know the above. Amazing how many adults don't.
"For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ." (John 1:17)
I don't know who they were. Were they eaten? I don't know who did it.
It's weak and rotten because the Sugar-Daddy State encouraged fathers to abandon mothers and children, because of the sexual revolution that sabotaged the very concept of the "Family," and because of birth control method of abortion. Btw -- the demos would NOT be what they are if not for the gubmint subsidides taken from hardworking, responsible taxpayers, and given to the lazy, the illegal, and the irresponsible who need not worry about supporting their own children. AKA, LBJ's "Great Society" plan in action.
Vicomte13: "I don't know who they were. Were they eaten? I don't know who did it." The Riddler strikes again!
Well, there's a plethora of Archaeological evidence "The many small pieces of unweathered teeth and skulls and postcranial scrap suggest, but do not prove, that the death of these people occurred at the burial site." Moreover, "every skull, regardless of age or sex, had the brain exposed." Heads had been placed on flat rocks and smashed open, apparently so that the brain could be removed. He went on to say that most of the bones--not only the skulls--also showed marks of cutting, chopping, dismemberment, butchering, "defleshing," and roasting. The larger bones had been broken apart and the marrow scraped out, or, in the case of spongy bone, reamed out. Turner and Morris concluded that the Polacca Wash bones represented "the most convincing evidence of cannibalism in all Southwest archaeology." http://www.prestonchild.com/book...-Douglas-Preston;art46,62 Not that such evidence has any impact upon the religified Aztlan Mechista crowd - or the Roman sun-parrots who think they can import and control them.
That's where our old baby furniture was.
It's amazing how desensitized American culture has been made.
Ok, so, somewhere in the American Southwest, at some point, some people ate some other people. That was also true in Scotland and other places. You imply that the genetic origin of some Mexicans is in such people (we know that the Aztecs ate human hearts), and that THEREFORE, their descendants are evil today. I don't see why it should follow for them any more than it does for the Scots.
Only to the extent that culture might be impacted by genetics. And the culture of Aztlan is alive and well.
Genetics? All of humanity is descended from two breeding pairs: Adam and Eve, and Noah and Naamah. Therefore, there is nothing in any particular cultures past that renders them anything other than our genetic first cousins, however distant. Mother Theresa and Idi Amin, and the Anasazi and the Aztecs who ate them, and you and I, are all first cousins. And we are all equal before God and ought to be equal before the laws of men, everywhere in the world. And those laws of men should themselves be subordinated to the right to life and freedom that is in the law of God. When we kill (or kill and eat) men, we are killing our own blood relatives. Every time.
Are you actually, really, in the real world, even remotely worried that human cannibalism is going to breakout in the Southwest because of illegal immigration? Really?
Cannibalism breaks out wherever and whenever resources are sufficiently limited and populations are sufficiently great. Just ask the Chinese. www.amazon.com/Scarlet-Me...lism-Modern/dp/0813326168 The Horror!
In which case it doesn't matter who ate the Anasazi, does it?
It probably mattered to the Anasazi. Do the immigrants and their sun-parrot herders have a plan for how they're going to feed them beyond handing them an EBT card? You ever live someplace like Santa Ana and experienced the demographic shift 1st hand?
I grew up in Detroit.
What percentage of Detroit speaks Spanish? When I was living there, Santa Ana and Anaheim had reached > 80% Ask B1 Bob and Comrade Loretta Sanchez how that works out.
In a highly charged debate that has played out across the country, Colorado has twice rejected proposals to make the violent death of a fetus a homicide, refusing to join 38 other states and the federal government for fear such a law would be used to restrict abortions.
#2. To: buckeroo (#1)
#3. To: VxH (#2)
It needs common sense, but I don't see Illegal Aliens supplying much of that.
#4. To: buckeroo (#3)
(Edited)
12 million illegals that shall procreate
#5. To: VxH (#4)
#6. To: lana, TooConservative, GarySpFc, liberator, Vicomte13, BobCeleste, tomder55 (#0)
n a highly charged debate that has played out across the country, Colorado has twice rejected proposals to make the violent death of a fetus a homicide, refusing to join 38 other states and the federal government for fear such a law would be used to restrict abortions.
#7. To: redleghunter (#5)
(Edited)
Stats show a sharp decline in this country and Europe.
#8. To: redleghunter (#6)
Case in point of what happens in a secular humanist relativistic society.
#9. To: redleghunter (#6)
(Edited)
what happens in a secular humanist relativistic society.
KJV
#10. To: lana (#0)
(Edited)
Woman Might Not Face Homicide Charges for Cutting 8-Month-Old Baby Out of Mother's Womb
#11. To: VxH (#9)
I forget, were Judah and Israel secular when the Lord removed and cast them -- or were they into that whole worship of state-established created/religious things, again?
#12. To: rlk (#10)
" Execute the God damned bitch for crimes againt humanity under lex non scripta. "
#13. To: rlk, Vicomte13 (#10)
Execute the God damned bitch for crimes againt humanity under lex non scripta.
#14. To: lana, rlk, Vicomte13, liberator (#0)
A Colorado woman accused of luring an expectant mother to a basement
#15. To: redleghunter, lana, rlk, Vicomte13 (#14)
I guess the question is why did this woman get 'lured' into a stranger's basement. The situation and circumstances stink already.
#16. To: Liberator (#15)
this is the society we wind up with
#17. To: redleghunter (#11)
(Edited)
They were pagan practicing humanists.
#18. To: Vicomte13 (#16)
The babies are produced by immigrants. They will grow up with the immigrants' values and religion.
#19. To: redleghunter (#14)
I guess the question is why did this woman get 'lured' into a stranger's basement.
#20. To: VxH (#19)
#21. To: redleghunter (#20)
(Edited)
Still...a basement. All the horror and slasher movies always start with someone going in the basement or attic.
#22. To: rlk (#21)
Sje was brought to a storage area, cut open, and her baby removed. That qualifies as a n inhumane act of criminality.
#23. To: VxH (#18)
Who ate the Anasazi?
#24. To: Vicomte13 (#16)
It is a weak and rotten one, and sterile....The future belongs to the people living in it. Demography is destiny.
#25. To: Vicomte13, VxH (#23)
The Riddler: "Who ate the Anasazi?"
#26. To: Vicomte13 (#23)
I don't know who they were. Were they eaten? I don't know who did it.
#27. To: redleghunter (#20)
Still...a basement. All the horror and slasher movies always start with someone going in the basement or attic.
#28. To: redleghunter (#22)
Amazing how many adults don't.
#29. To: VxH (#26)
#30. To: Vicomte13 (#29)
You imply that the genetic origin of some Mexicans is in such people (we know that the Aztecs ate human hearts), and that THEREFORE, their descendants are evil today.
#31. To: VxH (#30)
Only to the extent that culture might be impacted by genetics.
#32. To: VxH (#30)
And the culture of Aztlan is alive and well.
#33. To: Vicomte13 (#32)
(Edited)
#34. To: VxH (#33)
Cannibalism breaks out wherever and whenever resources are sufficiently limited and populations are sufficiently great.
#35. To: Vicomte13 (#34)
In which case it doesn't matter who ate the Anasazi, does it?
"The babies are produced by immigrants.
#36. To: VxH (#35)
You ever live someplace like Santa Ana and experienced the demographic shift 1st hand?
#37. To: Vicomte13 (#36)
(Edited)
I grew up in Detroit.
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