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Title: Let’s Be Serious About Ted Cruz From The Start: He’s Too Extreme And Too Disliked To Win
Source: FiveThirtyEight Politics
URL Source: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features ... treme-and-too-disliked-to-win/
Published: Mar 23, 2015
Author: Harry Enten
Post Date: 2015-03-23 15:57:49 by Jameson
Keywords: cruz, extreme, disliked
Views: 24020
Comments: 151

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz’s newly minted presidential campaign is the media equivalent of a juicy rib-eye that robbers use to distract a guard dog during a heist. He’ll get a ton of media attention, and he’ll get to spread his message — which may be all that Cruz is after — but Cruz almost certainly has no shot of winning the nomination, according to every indicator that predicts success in presidential primaries.

First, Cruz doesn’t have enough support from party bigwigs. To win the Republican or Democratic nomination, you need the backing of at least some of the party apparatus. At a minimum, your fellow party members shouldn’t hate you. Otherwise, you end up getting the Newt Gingrich 2012 treatment. That is, you get pounced on the moment you’re seen as a threat to win the nomination.

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#22. To: Jameson (#0)

Cruz almost certainly has no shot of winning the nomination, according to every indicator that predicts success in presidential primaries.

That's exactly what the pundits said about Reagan...

I for one hope Cruz keeps on being underestimated.

At a minimum, your fellow party members shouldn’t hate you.

Who be that? McStain? McConnell?? The whitebeard, establishment RINOs?? Their numbers are overinflated. These turncoat "bi-partisan" whores can pound salt.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-24   10:05:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Liberator (#22)

At a minimum, your fellow party members shouldn’t hate you.

Who be that? McStain? McConnell?? The whitebeard, establishment RINOs?? Their numbers are overinflated.

So....do you really believe that Cruz can be the republican's presidential nominee?

- and that this can happen without the support (and money) of the moderates?

- please don't compare Cruz to Reagan.... most people liked RR - that is simply not the case with Cruz.... Or - do you expect him to start playing the "kinder, gentler" candidate?

Jameson  posted on  2015-03-24   10:14:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Jameson (#25)

So....do you really believe that Cruz can be the republican's presidential nominee?

- and that this can happen without the support (and money) of the moderates?

Yes. Absolutely.

I hope you, the moderate'leftist pundits and the establishment-types continue to believe Cruz is unelectable based on "likeability," and impossible to finance.

There are far more patriots -- within the general populace, industry, and private sector -- who recognize Cruz is the only anecdote to 0buma's gutting of this nation in every way. THIS is a guy who is laser-focused.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-24   10:22:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Liberator (#27)

"...There are far more patriots -- within the general populace, industry, and private sector -- who recognize Cruz is the only anecdote to 0buma's gutting of this nation in every way...."

1. So what makes one a "patriot?"

2. If Mr. Cruz is the only "anecdote" what will the "patriots" do if he (god forbid) does not become the republican's nominee?

Jameson  posted on  2015-03-24   10:56:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Jameson (#34)

1. So what makes one a "patriot?"

A strict Constitutionalist and America-Firster.

2. If Mr. Cruz is the only "anecdote" what will the "patriots" do if he (god forbid) does not become the republican's nominee?

That dire scenario remains to be seen. I suppose....succumb to the escalated Police State and Big Gubmint, and further destruction of the US Constitution.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-24   11:06:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Liberator (#35)

I suppose....succumb to the escalated Police State and Big Gubmint, and further destruction of the US Constitution.

well, yeah of course....

but in the short term....will you vote for Bush?

Jameson  posted on  2015-03-24   11:20:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Jameson (#37)

Will you vote for a Dem over a Pubbie in any case?

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-24   11:31:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Liberator (#40)

Will you vote for a Dem over a Pubbie in any case?

I won't vote for either. Democrats are exultant babykillers. Republicans are corrupt crony capitalist incompetents.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-03-24   11:38:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Vicomte13 (#43)

Democrats are exultant babykillers. Republicans are corrupt crony capitalist incompetents.

Dems are also corrupt crony capitalist incompetents. BUT WORSE.

Moreover, at least a good 50% of Pubbies are pro-Life, whereas, 0% of Dems are.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-24   13:00:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Liberator (#59)

Dems are also corrupt crony capitalist incompetents. BUT WORSE.

No, they're not worse. They're just different.

The Republicans gave us Roe v. Wade and Casey, O'Connor, Kennedy and Souter. And Kelo.

And by not filibustering, they also gave us Ginsburg and Kagan and Sotomayor, etc.

The Democrats would have filibustered people like that (coming in the other direction). Republicans don't. They enable. Which means they're every bit as bad.

Also, Republicans lose wars.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-03-24   13:35:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Vicomte13 (#67)

The Republicans gave us Roe v. Wade and Casey, O'Connor, Kennedy and Souter. And Kelo.

And by not filibustering, they also gave us Ginsburg and Kagan and Sotomayor, etc.

Yes, I hear ya, but you're making the mistake of confusing the RNC statist stranglehold on the GOP with the rest of the party. Do you think the Bushes, Dole, Romney, Boehner, McConnell, Lott, McCain, Graham, etal are just coincidental faces of the GOP? They run powerful committees and bury conservative Pubbies from power in the Senate/House.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-24   13:44:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Liberator (#70)

but you're making the mistake of confusing the RNC statist stranglehold on the GOP with the rest of the party.

In 1943, there was no such thing as a "Good German".

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-03-24   14:34:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Vicomte13 (#75)

In 1943, there was no such thing as a "Good German".

You can't be drawing this analogy as one indicts ALL Republics/conservatives as "Good Germans" when its conservative battling for Life and Liberty EVERY day. Or are you??

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-25   10:40:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#122. To: Liberator (#98)

ALL Republics/conservatives as "Good Germans" when its conservative battling for Life and Liberty EVERY day. Or are you??

Affiliation with the Republican Party is neutralizing.

The GOP gave us Roe and has upheld it and extended it.

They gave us Kelo, amnesty, open borders, endless wars, etc.

They're corrupt, and they never do what they say on any of the core issues. They say what they need to to get elected, and then they do what their crony capitalist controllers want. It's visible. It's been this way for a long, long time.

There are conservatives who want things to be better. Things can never get better if conservatives remain in the GOP. They are divided and the GOP conquers them. It gets their votes and their money, thereby diluting all of that for any sort of EFFECTIVE action.

The Republican Party ITSELF is the problem, and there will be no advance as long as conservatives remain in it.

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