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Title: Let’s Be Serious About Ted Cruz From The Start: He’s Too Extreme And Too Disliked To Win
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FiveThirtyEight Politics
URL Source: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features ... treme-and-too-disliked-to-win/
Published: Mar 23, 2015
Author: Harry Enten
Post Date: 2015-03-23 15:57:49 by Jameson
Keywords: cruz, extreme, disliked
Views: 24003
Comments: 151
Texas Sen. Ted Cruz’s newly minted presidential campaign is the media equivalent of a juicy rib-eye that robbers use to distract a guard dog during a heist. He’ll get a ton of media attention, and he’ll get to spread his message — which may be all that Cruz is after — but Cruz almost certainly has no shot of winning the nomination, according to every indicator that predicts success in presidential primaries. First, Cruz doesn’t have enough support from party bigwigs. To win the Republican or Democratic nomination, you need the backing of at least some of the party apparatus. At a minimum, your fellow party members shouldn’t hate you. Otherwise, you end up getting the Newt Gingrich 2012 treatment. That is, you get pounced on the moment you’re seen as a threat to win the nomination.
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#74. To: Liberator (#71)
Actually I really don't care much for political parties or labels like "conservative" or "liberal" Maybe I wasn't clear, allow me to re-phrase... I don't believe that everyone who is identified as a "republican" (or other designation) will all respond or act in the same manner in any given situation. Everyone responds differently. The label or (party label) is irrelevant.
"we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.
In 1943, there was no such thing as a "Good German".
Good find and interesting read. You have accomplished a great thing today:)
"For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ." (John 1:17)
I'm not going to let the Republicans off the hook. There are no "Good Republicans". There are some people with good ideas and values who have mistakenly aligned themselves with the Republican Party. As long as they remain aligned with that party, they will be neutered and rendered ineffective by the corrupt crony capitalist contingent that has dominated that party since 1868. It's not going to change, ever, and I see no value in lying to myself and pretending that it will. The Democrats are babykillers and the Republicans are crapweasels. There may have been "Good Germans" by somebody's definition, somewhere, but it's 1943 and I'm a pilot over Germany: they're all bad. I'm not going to be discriminating, trying to find the good, because I don't care. They're the enemy, and they're all bad. Republicans and Democrats have been so consistently bad, for so long, they have exhausted any willingness on my part to expend any further energy trying to find kernels of edible corn in their poop. Crapweasels and babykillers. They can all go die in a hole and we would be better for it.
Nah, more like Jeffersonian penicillin, Domina
If the edification of the body of Christ you put on display here is typical of the members of your "church", I'm glad I'm an infidel and not a member.
Why can't some people figure out that being a moderate (believing the lies of "BOTH" parties) is voting for your own demise??
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
One thing is for sure he pissed off the MSM and the Leftards really bad yesterday. Even Moonbeam climbed out of his grave to say Cruz was a dumbass for being a climate change denier!! LOL...
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Some people? Please, your passive-aggressive approach is boring. On the other hand, believing the lies of only one "party" is the epitome of ignorance......
"we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.
You can compromise on policy, but NEVER on principles. The Democrats never compromise unless it advances their agenda. Republicans compromise in hopes that the next time they want something, they will get a "wink and nod".
Voters decide elections, even primaries. The MSM will mean NOTHING if 80% of those supporting conservative values turn out. The goal, turn them on and get them to turn out at the polls.
Ah poor baby... “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Which kinda person would I like to be? A person who believes everybody's lies or a person who believes some peoples lies and another who doesn't believe anybody's lies... Hmmmmm... You know I'm actually kinda surprised you didn't say that people who don't believe any of the lies are the stupidest ones!!!
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
The way I see it is that we have tried moderate party establishment types with Romney McCain ,and before that Bob Dole. Didn't work out so well. I am not sur Cruz is the best candidate . His opening salvo was brilliant . It will frame the debate throughout the primary season. My reservations are that Cruz is a conservative version of the emperor in some ways. He doesn't have executive experience ;even his legislative record is thin. He has little foreign policy experience. In this cycle I think foreign policy will be a determinant . If I were to go to the polls today and have to choose from the probable field ,I'd most likely go with a principled conservative governor (and the GOP bench has quite a few to choose from ) . So far the declared field is Cruz and Jebbabubba Bush . Between those 2 ,Cruz is the clear choice .
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
How about settling for competence.
Your typical mealymouthed rhetoric on the subject. Granting even that Republicans are some "party of the rich" (when 2/3 of the billionaires in America are active Dem partisans), when did "greedy" become just as bad as "baby murderers". You say these things over and over again. It is an established pattern in your posts, not some isolated instance. And your next response will be to portray the GOP's opposition to abortion as being somehow worse or just more dishonest than the Dems' sheer bloodlust for abortion mills.
Please cite your source - thanks
"we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.
You are putting process over substance.
Oh I know I've heard that many times. But if he believes it it is good to have one more on our side. You have any favorite candidates yet?
Killing the infection of WHAT then? The adherents of and Gospel of Jesus Christ, Deist-Riddler? Interesting admission.
Suddenly you're insulted and offended after having constantly promoted and shilled for your Jeffersonian cult, ridiculed Bible-believing Christians, and the Gospel of Jesus Christ on several threads? Rich. Here's a memo worth considering: Pretending your faith in the Gospel of Jesus Christ is adversely affected only by *my* ragging on you does not exonerate you from the Truth or Judgment Day. Free Will allows you to choose your own eternal fate -- whether as a Cultist of Jefferson or "member of the body of Christ." Your joy as a proud "infidel" here is duly noted. Infinitely worse than that is not what I think, but the Lord Himself. Will HE vouch for you and say he "knew" you? Or will Jefferson suffice as your Savior?
Stephen A. -- an absolute enigma. I don't really know exactly what he thinks. I get the feeling he doesn't either. Or rather he's just engaging in some damage control and theatrics.
that's ok .I begin always backing the best candidate . They are usually the ones not nominated ,and I end up voting for the last one standing . What this country cannot afford is another 4-8 years of nanny-state progressive Fabian socialism . So if a Scott Walker is selected rather than a Ted Cruz. That's who I'll vote for .
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
MOST conservatives/Republicans WILL base their life philosophy and ethics on absolutes of morality, individual liberty, and self-preservation. MOST liberal/Democrats will base their life philosophy and ethics on feelings, moral relativism, and group-think "fairness." The label or (party label) is irrelevant. Is it? Don't labels define us based on either the truth or by whomever controls the political narrative based on propaganda? In our culture's case, who would deny that this arbiter is decidedly an anti-Christian, liberal-socialist philosophy?
You can't be drawing this analogy as one indicts ALL Republics/conservatives as "Good Germans" when its conservative battling for Life and Liberty EVERY day. Or are you??
There's this thing called Google. You should check it out. Politico: Blue billionaires on top Donors who gave mostly or exclusively to Democrats held down 52 of the top 100 spots, including that of the biggest by far – retired San Francisco hedge fund billionaire Tom Steyer, who spent $74 million helping Democratic candidates and groups. Given its reliable liberal tilt, Politico went on to portray all the secret-donor PACs as overwhelmingly Republican, based on very sketchy infomation. It's the usual they-all-do-it-but-Republicans-are-so-much-more-icky that Politico is notorious for.
Make up your mind. There is only ONE Party who possesses the political muscle and will to legislate morally and constitutionally, for better or worse -- at present, that is the GOP. Now the Party can either be taken back and reclaimed as in any other war, OR we stop fight right now and surrender. Republicans and Democrats have been so consistently bad, for so long, they have exhausted any willingness on my part to expend any further energy trying to find kernels of edible corn in their poop. Crapweasels and babykillers. They can all go die in a hole and we would be better for it. So....ALL the Republicans and conservatives who've been fighting the good fight should just...indict themselves as no different than Dem baby-killers and destroyers of the USCON?? What would YOU have done during the dark days when Christians were tossed to the lions and crucified? Suck it up, Vic.
Because these people are brainwashed into believing in the propaganda of "fairness" of bi-partisanship, and "fairness" as enumerated in the US Constitution (OH WAIT! NOT THERE!!) Being a "moderate" (half-tard) may not be the most evil political position, but is the dumbest political position possible. These people ought to know better.
Cruz is my first option. I haven't ruled out Walker. Some questions but he is ok so far. Christie, Bush, no way.
Moonbeam Jerry Brown? The guy with investments in "Fossil" fuel? Typical hypocritical nut-job fascist RAT.
Would that be the "lie" that "life" begins outside the womb? The lie that baby-killing is "CHOICE" or "Woman's Rights"? The lie that "We're here from the gubmint and only here to help."? Or the lie of "white privileged"? (I could go on ad infinitum.)
The Democrats never compromise unless it advances their agenda. Republicans compromise in hopes that the next time they want something, they will get a "wink and nod". Amen! But let it be noted that the GOP is controlled by feckless Vichy RNC elites.
Predictably disastrous with those designated moderate, pro-statist losers, but it's worse than that -- the Vichy RNC has actually actively sabotaged its own chances to win....THEN when it actually does win, the GOP yields to Dem politics and policy. Go figure. I am not sur Cruz is the best candidate . His opening salvo was brilliant . It will frame the debate throughout the primary season. Cruz puts pressure on the Left and Dems. He's GOT to sustain it and the initiative. My reservations are that Cruz is a conservative version of the emperor in some ways. He doesn't have executive experience ;even his legislative record is thin. He has little foreign policy experience. In this cycle I think foreign policy will be a determinant Well, visionaries are like that -- he's not shy about articulating his positions without the usual reservations or hedging of bets. That may come off as "emperor"-like, but make no mistake -- as we have seen, "emperors" don't usually pay much attention to the Constitution. Cruz DOES. As to policy and executive experience, 0buma's "executive experince" was as a socialist, race-baiting. "Communtah Organizer." Didn't seem to bother the GOP. Or dopey voters. The job of the President these days should be to surround themselves with like-minded, high-minded Constitutionalists and America-Firsters and be the the CEO of this nation. The Citizens are like stock-holders. If I were to go to the polls today and have to choose from the probable field ,I'd most likely go with a principled conservative governor (and the GOP bench has quite a few to choose from.) Which leaves who? Christie, Kascich, Walker, or Jindal? The first three are compromised or moderates, and Jindal -- though a good man -- isn't forceful enough (IMHO.)
Cruz. Cruz. Cruz. He's the George Patton of GOP candidates. Line up the armored division, then plow our way thru the Reich forces. Even if they win, the other guys are going to continue watering down conservative values, while refusing to reverse any of the damage and rampant statist template already created by Der Fuhrer. And you?
Cruz.
Right. You said 2/3 of the Billionaires support Democrats... The your source states otherwise. I'm sure it was just a typo
"we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.
Certainly a no-brainer were the RAT opponent either Hitlery of that Faux Neo-millionaire squaw, Lizzie Borden.
Giddy-Up!
MOST liberal/Democrats will base their life philosophy and ethics on ....Blah, Blah, Blah So....what do you think MOST "People" will base their life philosophy and ethics on ...???
"we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.
The your source states otherwise. I'm sure it was just a typo Hung up on the minutia of style instead of substance -- typical. Have you given ANY consideration to the continued lying myth by Democrats that Republicans are the "party of the rich"? Still, TC's point is made: The MAJORITY of billionaires are indeed Dems, aren't they? And at that, even those figures are sure to be fudged and skewed. ("...according to a POLITICO analysis of reports filed with the Federal Election Commission and Internal Revenue Service. ) The above fedgoob agencies are under complete partisan Dem control; NOT exactly trusted sources of these or ANY "official" numbers.
No, I'm just curious if the edification of the body of Christ you put on display here is typical of the members of your "church" - and reiterate that I'm glad I'm an infidel and not a member.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestI guess you don't much care for defining a person or party by their respective words, deeds, actions, life philosophy, or agendas either.
#75. To: Liberator (#70)
but you're making the mistake of confusing the RNC statist stranglehold on the GOP with the rest of the party.
#76. To: nolu chan (#73)
#77. To: Liberator (#71)
#78. To: Liberator (#60)
(Edited)
#79. To: Liberator (#60)
Actually, you are an actually incurable communicable disease.
#80. To: Liberator (#62)
Atta boy! Standing on the principles of quicksand, and casting your vote on which way the wind happens to be blowing.
#81. To: redleghunter (#64)
Sometimes a bright light has to shine to scatter the cockroaches. Cruz gave us some of that light yesterday. More to follow to see if he throws back the entire curtain to let the light in.
#82. To: CZ82 (#80)
Why can't some people figure out that being a moderate (believing the lies of "BOTH" parties) is voting for your own demise??
#83. To: Pericles (#52)
#84. To: Liberator (#70)
#85. To: Jameson (#82)
#86. To: Jameson (#82)
On the other hand, believing the lies of only one "party" is the epitome of ignorance......
#87. To: redleghunter, nolu chan, liberator, (#64)
#88. To: jeremiad (#83)
You can compromise on policy, but NEVER on principles. The Democrats never compromise unless it advances their agenda. Republicans compromise in hopes that the next time they want something, they will get a "wink and nod".
#89. To: Vicomte13 (#77)
The Democrats are babykillers and the Republicans are crapweasels. There may have been "Good Germans" by somebody's definition, somewhere, but it's 1943 and I'm a pilot over Germany: they're all bad. I'm not going to be discriminating, trying to find the good, because I don't care. They're the enemy, and they're all bad.
#90. To: TooConservative (#89)
(when 2/3 of the billionaires in America are active Dem partisans)
#91. To: tomder55 (#87)
I'd most likely go with a principled conservative governor
#92. To: Liberator (#55)
The Riddler ripped the slogan off.
#93. To: VxH (#78)
"[I'm] more like Jeffersonian penicillin."
#94. To: VxH (#79)
If the edification of the body of Christ you put on display here is typical of the members of your "church", I'm glad I'm an infidel and not a member.
#95. To: nolu chan (#73)
ESPN’s Stephen A. Smith To Black Americans: Republicans Aren’t The Enemy
#96. To: A K A Stone (#91)
#97. To: Jameson (#74)
I don't believe that everyone who is identified as a "republican" (or other designation) will all respond or act in the same manner in any given situation. Everyone responds differently.
#98. To: Vicomte13 (#75)
In 1943, there was no such thing as a "Good German".
#99. To: Jameson (#90)
Please cite your source - thanks
The 100 biggest donors of 2014 gave nearly $174 million to Democrats, compared to more than $140 million to Republicans, according to a POLITICO analysis of reports filed with the Federal Election Commission and Internal Revenue Service.
#100. To: Vicomte13 (#77)
I'm not going to let the Republicans off the hook. There are no "Good Republicans". There are some people with good ideas and values who have mistakenly aligned themselves with the Republican Party.
#101. To: CZ82 (#80)
Why can't some people figure out that being a moderate (believing the lies of "BOTH" parties) is voting for your own demise??
#102. To: tomder55 (#96)
#103. To: CZ82, redleghunter (#81)
One thing is for sure he pissed off the MSM and the Leftards really bad yesterday. Even Moonbeam climbed out of his grave to say Cruz was a dumbass for being a climate change denier!! LOL...
#104. To: Jameson, CZ82 (#82)
On the other hand, believing the lies of only one "party" is the epitome of ignorance......
#105. To: jeremiad (#83)
You can compromise on policy, but NEVER on principles.
#106. To: tomder55, redleghunter, nolu chan (#87)
(Edited)
The way I see it is that we have tried moderate party establishment types with Romney McCain ,and before that Bob Dole. Didn't work out so well.
#107. To: A K A Stone (#92)
(Edited)
You have any favorite candidates yet?
#108. To: Liberator (#107)
#109. To: TooConservative (#99)
There's this thing called Google. You should check it out.
#110. To: tomder55, A K A Stone (#96)
if a Scott Walker is selected rather than a Ted Cruz. That's who I'll vote for .
#111. To: A K A Stone (#108)
#112. To: Liberator (#97)
MOST conservatives/Republicans WILL base their life philosophy and ethics on ....Blah, Blah, Blah
#113. To: Jameson, TooConservative (#109)
(Edited)
You said 2/3 of the Billionaires support Democrats...
#114. To: Liberator (#94)
Suddenly you're insulted and offended
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