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Title: Let’s Be Serious About Ted Cruz From The Start: He’s Too Extreme And Too Disliked To Win
Source: FiveThirtyEight Politics
URL Source: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features ... treme-and-too-disliked-to-win/
Published: Mar 23, 2015
Author: Harry Enten
Post Date: 2015-03-23 15:57:49 by Jameson
Keywords: cruz, extreme, disliked
Views: 28136
Comments: 151

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz’s newly minted presidential campaign is the media equivalent of a juicy rib-eye that robbers use to distract a guard dog during a heist. He’ll get a ton of media attention, and he’ll get to spread his message — which may be all that Cruz is after — but Cruz almost certainly has no shot of winning the nomination, according to every indicator that predicts success in presidential primaries.

First, Cruz doesn’t have enough support from party bigwigs. To win the Republican or Democratic nomination, you need the backing of at least some of the party apparatus. At a minimum, your fellow party members shouldn’t hate you. Otherwise, you end up getting the Newt Gingrich 2012 treatment. That is, you get pounced on the moment you’re seen as a threat to win the nomination.

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#1. To: Jameson (#0)

The bar for Presidential credentials was lowered by the current occupant...Obola.

I will enjoy all the libs stating "he's a junior senator." "What foreign policy experience does he have?"

Well they did not ask that of Obola (only lib that did was Biden in the primaries).

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-23   16:03:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: redleghunter (#1)

Your comment is appreciated......do you have any thoughts on the content of the article?

Jameson  posted on  2015-03-23   16:13:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jameson (#2)

Cruz is likely far too extreme ideologically to win the nomination. The Republican party has a habit of nominating relatively moderate candidates (see John McCain in 2008 and Mitt Romney in 2012). That’s especially the case when the party has been out of the White House for more than one term. A Cruz nomination wouldn’t just break this streak; it would throw it off a 100-floor balcony and drop a piano on it.

I agree with the little or no support of the party 'big wigs.' You can't get far without campaign funding.

On the quoted above I disagree with the reasoning. Look at how those elections worked out for the GOP with moderates. Some conservatives stayed home and it showed in the results.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-23   16:34:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: redleghunter, Jameson (#3)

Look at how those elections worked out for the GOP with moderates. Some conservatives stayed home and it showed in the results.

It depends on one's viewpoint. The mission of the Party PTB is to (1) protect their position as the Party PTB and (2) elect one of their own as President.

By nominating and electing any conservative such as Ted Cruz, the moderate Party PTB would risk being replaced by conservatives. By nominating a moderate, they ensure that no conservative has any claim to fame demonstrating the lack of merit in their moderate or liberal policies. Their primary motivation is to remain in control of the levers of power within the party. That purpose is better served by a losing Ford, Dole, McCain, Romney, or the like, than a winning conservative.

The corporate donors do not care if conservatives stay home. Big business likes big government. The two parties in D.C. are in the business of selling tax breaks and government contracts. Big business are the buyers. The American taxpayer pays the bill.

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#64. To: nolu chan, liberator, tomder55 (#48)

By nominating and electing any conservative such as Ted Cruz, the moderate Party PTB would risk being replaced by conservatives. By nominating a moderate, they ensure that no conservative has any claim to fame demonstrating the lack of merit in their moderate or liberal policies. Their primary motivation is to remain in control of the levers of power within the party. That purpose is better served by a losing Ford, Dole, McCain, Romney, or the like, than a winning conservative.

Sometimes a bright light has to shine to scatter the cockroaches. Cruz gave us some of that light yesterday. More to follow to see if he throws back the entire curtain to let the light in.

Also, will the comatose American electorate even comprehend such light?

The very soul of this nation is at stake.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-24   13:13:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: redleghunter (#64)

Sometimes a bright light has to shine to scatter the cockroaches. Cruz gave us some of that light yesterday. More to follow to see if he throws back the entire curtain to let the light in.

Yep. And this is exactly why the establishment RNC, DNC, PTB, Hollywood, and liberal media all fear Cruz.

Also, will the comatose American electorate even comprehend such light?

Depends on how effective the propaganda and character assassination is.

The very soul of this nation is at stake.

Definitely on the line for 2016.

No one but Cruz shakes things up the way they need to be shaken.

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