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Title: Let’s Be Serious About Ted Cruz From The Start: He’s Too Extreme And Too Disliked To Win
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FiveThirtyEight Politics
URL Source: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features ... treme-and-too-disliked-to-win/
Published: Mar 23, 2015
Author: Harry Enten
Post Date: 2015-03-23 15:57:49 by Jameson
Keywords: cruz, extreme, disliked
Views: 23262
Comments: 151
Texas Sen. Ted Cruz’s newly minted presidential campaign is the media equivalent of a juicy rib-eye that robbers use to distract a guard dog during a heist. He’ll get a ton of media attention, and he’ll get to spread his message — which may be all that Cruz is after — but Cruz almost certainly has no shot of winning the nomination, according to every indicator that predicts success in presidential primaries. First, Cruz doesn’t have enough support from party bigwigs. To win the Republican or Democratic nomination, you need the backing of at least some of the party apparatus. At a minimum, your fellow party members shouldn’t hate you. Otherwise, you end up getting the Newt Gingrich 2012 treatment. That is, you get pounced on the moment you’re seen as a threat to win the nomination.
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#26. To: TooConservative (#6)
The desperate guns of Left and Vichy RNC will pound Cruz as though he were Baghdad during the initial Iraq assault. If he survives, he will be a force to be reckoned with. He has a certain oily smoothness that reminds me a lot of LBJ. Which isn't such a warm memory. The only thing those two have in common are...the state of Texas. "Smoothness" -- I guess what you're saying is that you don't quite believe in Cruz's sincerity? "Smoothness" can at times be construed as a complete confidence. It's easy to have became jaded. But why after noting 0bola's totally disingenuous "smoothness" or Slick's?
- and that this can happen without the support (and money) of the moderates? Yes. Absolutely. I hope you, the moderate'leftist pundits and the establishment-types continue to believe Cruz is unelectable based on "likeability," and impossible to finance. There are far more patriots -- within the general populace, industry, and private sector -- who recognize Cruz is the only anecdote to 0buma's gutting of this nation in every way. THIS is a guy who is laser-focused.
- and that this can happen without the support (and money) of the moderates? I don't believe that it matters who the Republican nominee is. The Republican brand is too tainted and narrow. No matter who the Republicans run, the Democrats will win the election.
You really believe that?? The Pubbies are again running a bunch of also-ran RINOs and wishy-washy sell-out moderates. Cruz stands alone as a stud. Cruz is smart, he may be hoping that the others implode.... That's exactly what's going to happen. And the lib media will go ape-sh*t after the smoke clears. REAGAN II.
Given Cruz vs. Huckabee, social conservatives will go for Huckabee. We will do no such thing. Cruz is Number Uno on many peoples list Mr Pegler.
That's too bad because unlike the other puppets, Cruz takes no prisoners and is small gubmint. He is the literal political anecdote to 0buma, which is why you're going to immediately see Cruz pounded from every direction until he's either left standing and stronger, OR too crippled to continue.
We'll see. I think Cruz started yesterday a 15-20 year campaign for President of the USA. It took Reagan longer than that to get there.
"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)
Cruz is right on about everything. To try to appeal to libfags would be to lose his appeal to REAL Americans. That approach would be great if the USA has a parlimentary system of govt.
1. So what makes one a "patriot?" 2. If Mr. Cruz is the only "anecdote" what will the "patriots" do if he (god forbid) does not become the republican's nominee?
"we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.
A strict Constitutionalist and America-Firster. 2. If Mr. Cruz is the only "anecdote" what will the "patriots" do if he (god forbid) does not become the republican's nominee? That dire scenario remains to be seen. I suppose....succumb to the escalated Police State and Big Gubmint, and further destruction of the US Constitution.
2020, 2024, 2028, 2032, 2036
well, yeah of course.... but in the short term....will you vote for Bush?
"we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.
well, yeah of course.... but in the short term....will you vote for Bush?
"we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.
And a vote for another NWO Bush is different than a Dem....HOW??
Will you vote for a Dem over a Pubbie in any case?
By then? "It's dead, Jim."
Well, I wish Cruz well. I'd like to see him become the Republican nominee. I might even vote in the primary and then come out in the general election, hold my nose, and vote Republican in the general election, if he's the guy. That'd be swell. I don't believe that the Republicans will nominate him, because he is much closer to me on many issues than Republicans are. It's their party, and they're going to nominate somebody who represents their values, not somebody who represents mine.
I won't vote for either. Democrats are exultant babykillers. Republicans are corrupt crony capitalist incompetents.
If not 2040 and later. Cruz will only be 45 in 2016, I think. 65 in 2036. 75 in 2046. Cruz could easily be giving rockribbed Republicans heart attacks until mid-century. If the GOP always nominates "the guy from last time", that is a lot of "last times" for Cruz to have a chance at.
This cult of personality is weird for me to accept belongs with Republican politics - it makes sense in the world of talk show hosts and their fans - but for politics it is weird.
Yes, of course. I have voted for republicans, democrats, libertarians, non-affiliated.....etc it all depends on the circumstances at that time... I have also chosen to not vote in some races - if none of the candidates are worthy.
"we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.
I agree - self proclaimed messiahs declaring they can cause sea levels to fall, which in turn causes spasmatic fainting spells does seem to be more a democrat thing. Maybe at the next democrat rally we can see a reprise of the Lords' first miracle - though instead of turning water into wine perhaps Zero can turn ordinary cigarettes into reefers?
It depends on one's viewpoint. The mission of the Party PTB is to (1) protect their position as the Party PTB and (2) elect one of their own as President. By nominating and electing any conservative such as Ted Cruz, the moderate Party PTB would risk being replaced by conservatives. By nominating a moderate, they ensure that no conservative has any claim to fame demonstrating the lack of merit in their moderate or liberal policies. Their primary motivation is to remain in control of the levers of power within the party. That purpose is better served by a losing Ford, Dole, McCain, Romney, or the like, than a winning conservative. The corporate donors do not care if conservatives stay home. Big business likes big government. The two parties in D.C. are in the business of selling tax breaks and government contracts. Big business are the buyers. The American taxpayer pays the bill.
Those are code words for compromising your principles. McConnell and Boehner do that consistently, along with a good sized chunk of the GOP officials. Either we turn the "ship of state" around or we follow the marxists in the Democrat party into the "hell on Earth" they always create. Ted Cruz is a chance at snatching victory from defeat, instead of the usual script of losing when a real chance at winning presents itself. Either Republicans nominate a Constitutional conservative, or all that is left of the mess will be the wiping of our collective ass after we take the dump. There are millions of conservatives waiting for a true leader. Bush won't cut it, and Huckabee can't. Unless the party stands for its stated principles, we may win an office, but we lose the country. Truly, R vs D is about who gets to dole out the trillions and who gets the rewards of the graft. We either work to support what we SAY we want, or we are no better than the progressive/liberal/marxist/totalitarian left.
It happens. I grow on people like a fungus.
Pardon the raucous laughter Pericles.... Perhaps you missed the coronation of the Der Mezziah in 2008. He came with his own assortment of temple idols as well: "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)
Politics is about compromise - see the Founding Fathers and that compromised document called the "Constitution". You are describing a religous order not a political party.
Perhaps you missed the coronation of the Der Mezziah in 2008. He came with his own assortment of temple idols as well: I said it is odd for Republicans. Just because Democrats do it does not mean it is right or proper for Republicans to do it. I found your response weird - because the Dems fawned over Obama (I think the romance has ended between the Dems and Obama) the Repubs should do the same?
"Republican politics"?? Hey look! 0buma is a Greek god!!" Did he turn water into wine for his cultists-of-personality at this epically weird function?
Ok. I'm going to ease up on you. Anyone with that slogan can't be all bad. The Riddler ripped the slogan off.
Sorry, your wording was a bit unclear at what you were getting at...
"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)
That'd be swell. Glad you're somewhat encouraged. I know -- it's hard. I don't believe that the Republicans will nominate him, because he is much closer to me on many issues than Republicans are. It's their party, and they're going to nominate somebody who represents their values, not somebody who represents mine. He's closer on more issues with MORE people than any candidate out there; the media and puppet pundits won't admit that. The question is to what extent the NWO establishment whores, puppets and elites quash and sabotage Cruz's campaign. He'll roll back a lot of recent regulations, over-officiousness, Statism, and fascism if he succeeds.
Well stated. THIS is the Final and Last chance for the Republic.
Dems are also corrupt crony capitalist incompetents. BUT WORSE. Moreover, at least a good 50% of Pubbies are pro-Life, whereas, 0% of Dems are.
Actually, you are an actually incurable communicable disease.
By nominating and electing any conservative such as Ted Cruz, the moderate Party PTB would risk being replaced by conservatives. By nominating a moderate, they ensure that no conservative has any claim to fame demonstrating the lack of merit in their moderate or liberal policies. Their primary motivation is to remain in control of the levers of power within the party. That purpose is better served by a losing Ford, Dole, McCain, Romney, or the like, than a winning conservative. The corporate donors do not care if conservatives stay home. Big business likes big government. The two parties in D.C. are in the business of selling tax breaks and government contracts. Big business are the buyers. The American taxpayer pays the bill. Best explanation of the party dynamics and political reality I've seen. It would also validate the notion that the USA is indeed no longer representative, constitutional Republic, but a farce, a charade.
Atta boy! Standing on the principles of quicksand, and casting your vote on which way the wind happens to be blowing.
And hopefully roll back a lot of 'satanism.' The next GOP nominee must come out strong on protecting human life in the womb. Not just words as 'words are just wind' but with a plan of action.
"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)
Sometimes a bright light has to shine to scatter the cockroaches. Cruz gave us some of that light yesterday. More to follow to see if he throws back the entire curtain to let the light in. Also, will the comatose American electorate even comprehend such light? The very soul of this nation is at stake.
"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)
Yep. And this is exactly why the establishment RNC, DNC, PTB, Hollywood, and liberal media all fear Cruz. Also, will the comatose American electorate even comprehend such light? Depends on how effective the propaganda and character assassination is. The very soul of this nation is at stake. Definitely on the line for 2016. No one but Cruz shakes things up the way they need to be shaken.
Heh...(goes without saying. Wouldn't want to be accused of "intolerance" toward satanists.) The next GOP nominee must come out strong on protecting human life in the womb. Not just words as 'words are just wind' but with a plan of action. I agree on its merit, but I don't see that issue creating a tactical advantage during the campaign. Let's win first, then (like the Dems) start lowering the boom on moral issues, like preborn-murder by either reinforcing States' Rights, dismissing Leftist circuit court judges, and thru conservative SCOTUS appointments.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestCruz has already been fully pounced.
#27. To: Jameson (#25)
So....do you really believe that Cruz can be the republican's presidential nominee?
#28. To: Jameson (#25)
So....do you really believe that Cruz can be the republican's presidential nominee?
#29. To: cranko (#7)
Cruz isn't #1 on anyone's list of favorite candidates.
#30. To: cranko aka jwpegler (#7)
Cruz isn't #1 on anyone's list of favorite candidates.
#31. To: Vicomte13 (#28)
I don't believe that it matters who the Republican nominee is.
#32. To: cranko (#7)
Cruz is smart, he may be hoping that the others implode so he can be around as the #2 choice and the only person left standing for everyone who hates Bush.
#33. To: A K A Stone (#20)
He is telling the truth of who he is. You sound like one of those people who would suggest lying is a good way to "appeal to a audience".
#34. To: Liberator (#27)
"...There are far more patriots -- within the general populace, industry, and private sector -- who recognize Cruz is the only anecdote to 0buma's gutting of this nation in every way...."
#35. To: Jameson (#34)
1. So what makes one a "patriot?"
#36. To: Jameson (#34)
2. If Mr. Cruz is the only "anecdote" what will the "patriots" do if he (god forbid) does not become the republican's nominee?
#37. To: Liberator (#35)
I suppose....succumb to the escalated Police State and Big Gubmint, and further destruction of the US Constitution.
#38. To: A K A Stone (#36)
2020, 2024, 2028, 2032, 2036
#39. To: Jameson (#37)
in the short term....will you vote for Bush?
#40. To: Jameson (#37)
#41. To: A K A Stone (#36)
2020, 2024, 2028, 2032, 2036
#42. To: Liberator (#31)
That's too bad because unlike the other puppets, Cruz takes no prisoners and is small gubmint. He is the literal political anecdote to 0buma, which is why you're going to immediately see Cruz pounded from every direction until he's either left standing and stronger, OR too crippled to continue.
#43. To: Liberator (#40)
Will you vote for a Dem over a Pubbie in any case?
#44. To: A K A Stone, redleghunter (#36)
2020, 2024, 2028, 2032, 2036
#45. To: TooConservative, A K A Stone, redleghunter (#44)
#46. To: Liberator (#40)
Will you vote for a Dem over a Pubbie in any case?
#47. To: Pericles (#45)
This cult of personality is weird for me to accept belongs with Republican politics
#48. To: redleghunter, Jameson (#3)
Look at how those elections worked out for the GOP with moderates. Some conservatives stayed home and it showed in the results.
#49. To: Pericles (#17)
appeal to a broader audience
#50. To: A K A Stone (#15)
Ok. I'm going to ease up on you. Anyone with that slogan can't be all bad.
#51. To: Pericles, liberator, TooConservative, A K A Stone, VxH (#45)
This cult of personality is weird for me to accept belongs with Republican politics
#52. To: jeremiad (#49)
Those are code words for compromising your principles. McConnell and Boehner do that consistently, along with a good sized chunk of the GOP officials.
#53. To: redleghunter, , liberator, TooConservative, A K A Stone (#51)
This cult of personality is weird for me to accept belongs with Republican politics Pardon the raucous laughter Pericles....
#54. To: Pericles, Rufus T Firefly, redleghunter (#45)
This cult of personality is weird for me to accept belongs with Republican politics...
#55. To: A K A Stone, VxH (#15)
("Cruz or lose!")
#56. To: Pericles (#53)
#57. To: Vicomte13 (#42)
I wish Cruz well. I'd like to see him become the Republican nominee. I might even vote in the primary and then come out in the general election, hold my nose, and vote Republican in the general election, if he's the guy.
#58. To: jeremiad (#49)
Ted Cruz is a chance at snatching victory from defeat, instead of the usual script of losing when a real chance at winning presents itself. Either Republicans nominate a Constitutional conservative, or all that is left of the mess will be the wiping of our collective ass after we take the dump.
#59. To: Vicomte13 (#43)
Democrats are exultant babykillers. Republicans are corrupt crony capitalist incompetents.
#60. To: VxH (#50)
I grow on people like a fungus.
#61. To: nolu chan (#48)
The mission of the Party PTB is to (1) protect their position as the Party PTB and (2) elect one of their own as President.
#62. To: Jameson (#46)
I have voted for republicans, democrats, libertarians, non-affiliated.....etc it all depends on the circumstances at that time...
#63. To: Liberator, Vicomte13 (#57)
He'll roll back a lot of recent regulations, over-officiousness, Statism, and fascism if he succeeds
#64. To: nolu chan, liberator, tomder55 (#48)
By nominating and electing any conservative such as Ted Cruz, the moderate Party PTB would risk being replaced by conservatives. By nominating a moderate, they ensure that no conservative has any claim to fame demonstrating the lack of merit in their moderate or liberal policies. Their primary motivation is to remain in control of the levers of power within the party. That purpose is better served by a losing Ford, Dole, McCain, Romney, or the like, than a winning conservative.
#65. To: redleghunter (#64)
Sometimes a bright light has to shine to scatter the cockroaches. Cruz gave us some of that light yesterday. More to follow to see if he throws back the entire curtain to let the light in.
#66. To: redleghunter (#63)
hopefully roll back a lot of 'satanism.'
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