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Trump Is Planning to Send Kill Teams to Mexico to Take Out Cartel Leaders The Great Falling Away in the Church is Here | Tim Dilena Status: Not Logged In; Sign In United States News See other United States News Articles Title: Let’s Be Serious About Ted Cruz From The Start: He’s Too Extreme And Too Disliked To Win Source: FiveThirtyEight Politics URL Source: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features ... treme-and-too-disliked-to-win/ Published: Mar 23, 2015 Author: Harry Enten Post Date: 2015-03-23 15:57:49 by Jameson Keywords: cruz, extreme, disliked Views: 23373 Comments: 151 Texas Sen. Ted Cruz’s newly minted presidential campaign is the media equivalent of a juicy rib-eye that robbers use to distract a guard dog during a heist. He’ll get a ton of media attention, and he’ll get to spread his message — which may be all that Cruz is after — but Cruz almost certainly has no shot of winning the nomination, according to every indicator that predicts success in presidential primaries. First, Cruz doesn’t have enough support from party bigwigs. To win the Republican or Democratic nomination, you need the backing of at least some of the party apparatus. At a minimum, your fellow party members shouldn’t hate you. Otherwise, you end up getting the Newt Gingrich 2012 treatment. That is, you get pounced on the moment you’re seen as a threat to win the nomination. Click for Full Text! Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 147. #22. To: Jameson (#0) Cruz almost certainly has no shot of winning the nomination, according to every indicator that predicts success in presidential primaries. That's exactly what the pundits said about Reagan... I for one hope Cruz keeps on being underestimated. At a minimum, your fellow party members shouldn’t hate you. Who be that? McStain? McConnell?? The whitebeard, establishment RINOs?? Their numbers are overinflated. These turncoat "bi-partisan" whores can pound salt. Liberator  posted on  2015-03-24   10:05:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #25. To: Liberator (#22) At a minimum, your fellow party members shouldn’t hate you. Who be that? McStain? McConnell?? The whitebeard, establishment RINOs?? Their numbers are overinflated. So....do you really believe that Cruz can be the republican's presidential nominee? - and that this can happen without the support (and money) of the moderates? - please don't compare Cruz to Reagan.... most people liked RR - that is simply not the case with Cruz.... Or - do you expect him to start playing the "kinder, gentler" candidate? Jameson  posted on  2015-03-24   10:14:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #27. To: Jameson (#25) So....do you really believe that Cruz can be the republican's presidential nominee? - and that this can happen without the support (and money) of the moderates? Yes. Absolutely. I hope you, the moderate'leftist pundits and the establishment-types continue to believe Cruz is unelectable based on "likeability," and impossible to finance. There are far more patriots -- within the general populace, industry, and private sector -- who recognize Cruz is the only anecdote to 0buma's gutting of this nation in every way. THIS is a guy who is laser-focused. Liberator  posted on  2015-03-24   10:22:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #34. To: Liberator (#27) "...There are far more patriots -- within the general populace, industry, and private sector -- who recognize Cruz is the only anecdote to 0buma's gutting of this nation in every way...." 1. So what makes one a "patriot?" 2. If Mr. Cruz is the only "anecdote" what will the "patriots" do if he (god forbid) does not become the republican's nominee? Jameson  posted on  2015-03-24   10:56:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #35. To: Jameson (#34) 1. So what makes one a "patriot?" A strict Constitutionalist and America-Firster. 2. If Mr. Cruz is the only "anecdote" what will the "patriots" do if he (god forbid) does not become the republican's nominee? That dire scenario remains to be seen. I suppose....succumb to the escalated Police State and Big Gubmint, and further destruction of the US Constitution. Liberator  posted on  2015-03-24   11:06:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #37. To: Liberator (#35) I suppose....succumb to the escalated Police State and Big Gubmint, and further destruction of the US Constitution. well, yeah of course.... but in the short term....will you vote for Bush? Jameson  posted on  2015-03-24   11:20:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #40. To: Jameson (#37) Will you vote for a Dem over a Pubbie in any case? Liberator  posted on  2015-03-24   11:31:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #46. To: Liberator (#40) Will you vote for a Dem over a Pubbie in any case? Yes, of course. I have voted for republicans, democrats, libertarians, non-affiliated.....etc it all depends on the circumstances at that time... I have also chosen to not vote in some races - if none of the candidates are worthy. Jameson  posted on  2015-03-24   11:52:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #62. To: Jameson (#46) I have voted for republicans, democrats, libertarians, non-affiliated.....etc it all depends on the circumstances at that time... Atta boy! Standing on the principles of quicksand, and casting your vote on which way the wind happens to be blowing. Liberator  posted on  2015-03-24   13:09:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #69. To: Liberator (#62) Standing on the principles of quicksand, and casting your vote on which way the wind happens to be blowing. Heh heh....you bet. Actually I really don't care much for political parties or labels like "conservative" or "liberal" This style thinking is limiting, divisive, and antique. IMHO Jameson  posted on  2015-03-24   13:44:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #71. To: Jameson (#69) (Edited) Actually I really don't care much for political parties or labels like "conservative" or "liberal" I guess you don't much care for defining a person or party by their respective words, deeds, actions, life philosophy, or agendas either. That's the reason for party or labels, aka "branding." This style thinking is limiting, divisive, and antique. IMHO It's a necessary means of discernment or judgment. Is in your opinion discernment or judgement....irrelevant? Liberator  posted on  2015-03-24   13:49:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #77. To: Liberator (#71) I'm not going to let the Republicans off the hook. There are no "Good Republicans". There are some people with good ideas and values who have mistakenly aligned themselves with the Republican Party. As long as they remain aligned with that party, they will be neutered and rendered ineffective by the corrupt crony capitalist contingent that has dominated that party since 1868. It's not going to change, ever, and I see no value in lying to myself and pretending that it will. The Democrats are babykillers and the Republicans are crapweasels. There may have been "Good Germans" by somebody's definition, somewhere, but it's 1943 and I'm a pilot over Germany: they're all bad. I'm not going to be discriminating, trying to find the good, because I don't care. They're the enemy, and they're all bad. Republicans and Democrats have been so consistently bad, for so long, they have exhausted any willingness on my part to expend any further energy trying to find kernels of edible corn in their poop. Crapweasels and babykillers. They can all go die in a hole and we would be better for it. Vicomte13  posted on  2015-03-24   14:40:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #89. To: Vicomte13 (#77) The Democrats are babykillers and the Republicans are crapweasels. There may have been "Good Germans" by somebody's definition, somewhere, but it's 1943 and I'm a pilot over Germany: they're all bad. I'm not going to be discriminating, trying to find the good, because I don't care. They're the enemy, and they're all bad. Your typical mealymouthed rhetoric on the subject. Granting even that Republicans are some "party of the rich" (when 2/3 of the billionaires in America are active Dem partisans), when did "greedy" become just as bad as "baby murderers". You say these things over and over again. It is an established pattern in your posts, not some isolated instance. And your next response will be to portray the GOP's opposition to abortion as being somehow worse or just more dishonest than the Dems' sheer bloodlust for abortion mills. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-25   9:37:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #90. To: TooConservative (#89) (when 2/3 of the billionaires in America are active Dem partisans) Please cite your source - thanks Jameson  posted on  2015-03-25   9:55:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #99. To: Jameson (#90) Please cite your source - thanks There's this thing called Google. You should check it out. Politico: Blue billionaires on top The 100 biggest donors of 2014 gave nearly $174 million to Democrats, compared to more than $140 million to Republicans, according to a POLITICO analysis of reports filed with the Federal Election Commission and Internal Revenue Service. Donors who gave mostly or exclusively to Democrats held down 52 of the top 100 spots, including that of the biggest by far – retired San Francisco hedge fund billionaire Tom Steyer, who spent $74 million helping Democratic candidates and groups. Given its reliable liberal tilt, Politico went on to portray all the secret-donor PACs as overwhelmingly Republican, based on very sketchy infomation. It's the usual they-all-do-it-but-Republicans-are-so-much-more-icky that Politico is notorious for. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-25   10:41:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #109. To: TooConservative (#99) There's this thing called Google. You should check it out. Right. You said 2/3 of the Billionaires support Democrats... The your source states otherwise. I'm sure it was just a typo Jameson  posted on  2015-03-25   11:36:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #113. To: Jameson, TooConservative (#109) (Edited) You said 2/3 of the Billionaires support Democrats... The your source states otherwise. I'm sure it was just a typo Hung up on the minutia of style instead of substance -- typical. Have you given ANY consideration to the continued lying myth by Democrats that Republicans are the "party of the rich"? Still, TC's point is made: The MAJORITY of billionaires are indeed Dems, aren't they? And at that, even those figures are sure to be fudged and skewed. ("...according to a POLITICO analysis of reports filed with the Federal Election Commission and Internal Revenue Service. ) The above fedgoob agencies are under complete partisan Dem control; NOT exactly trusted sources of these or ANY "official" numbers. Liberator  posted on  2015-03-25   11:50:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #136. To: Liberator (#113) People like Willie and Jameson just come here to troll. As to the actual amount of billionaires, some billionaires may give or register with one party but only donate as though they are millionaires. So they might have billions but donate only in the tens of thousands. Then you have billionaires like Adelson or the Koch network or Soros who toss in tens of millions. Or you have some like Bloomberg that has a gungrabbing fetish and that controls the direction of their political spending. So it can be hard to quantify all the activities of these various billionaires in either party. That's before you even look at the secret-donor PACs. The tycoons are happy enough to let us have the vote as long as they have the money and can use it to buy up the pols we elect by various means. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-25   13:14:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #147. To: TooConservative (#136) So it can be hard to quantify all the activities of these various billionaires in either party. That's before you even look at the secret-donor PACs. I don't think you could ever figure out "Who gave how much to who", too many ways to hide "Who's" money it is. CZ82  posted on  2015-03-26   9:19:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 147.         There are no replies to Comment # 147. End Trace Mode for Comment # 147. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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