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Title: Let’s Be Serious About Ted Cruz From The Start: He’s Too Extreme And Too Disliked To Win
Source: FiveThirtyEight Politics
URL Source: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features ... treme-and-too-disliked-to-win/
Published: Mar 23, 2015
Author: Harry Enten
Post Date: 2015-03-23 15:57:49 by Jameson
Keywords: cruz, extreme, disliked
Views: 24019
Comments: 151

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz’s newly minted presidential campaign is the media equivalent of a juicy rib-eye that robbers use to distract a guard dog during a heist. He’ll get a ton of media attention, and he’ll get to spread his message — which may be all that Cruz is after — but Cruz almost certainly has no shot of winning the nomination, according to every indicator that predicts success in presidential primaries.

First, Cruz doesn’t have enough support from party bigwigs. To win the Republican or Democratic nomination, you need the backing of at least some of the party apparatus. At a minimum, your fellow party members shouldn’t hate you. Otherwise, you end up getting the Newt Gingrich 2012 treatment. That is, you get pounced on the moment you’re seen as a threat to win the nomination.

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#22. To: Jameson (#0)

Cruz almost certainly has no shot of winning the nomination, according to every indicator that predicts success in presidential primaries.

That's exactly what the pundits said about Reagan...

I for one hope Cruz keeps on being underestimated.

At a minimum, your fellow party members shouldn’t hate you.

Who be that? McStain? McConnell?? The whitebeard, establishment RINOs?? Their numbers are overinflated. These turncoat "bi-partisan" whores can pound salt.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-24   10:05:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Liberator (#22)

At a minimum, your fellow party members shouldn’t hate you.

Who be that? McStain? McConnell?? The whitebeard, establishment RINOs?? Their numbers are overinflated.

So....do you really believe that Cruz can be the republican's presidential nominee?

- and that this can happen without the support (and money) of the moderates?

- please don't compare Cruz to Reagan.... most people liked RR - that is simply not the case with Cruz.... Or - do you expect him to start playing the "kinder, gentler" candidate?

Jameson  posted on  2015-03-24   10:14:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Jameson (#25)

So....do you really believe that Cruz can be the republican's presidential nominee?

- and that this can happen without the support (and money) of the moderates?

Yes. Absolutely.

I hope you, the moderate'leftist pundits and the establishment-types continue to believe Cruz is unelectable based on "likeability," and impossible to finance.

There are far more patriots -- within the general populace, industry, and private sector -- who recognize Cruz is the only anecdote to 0buma's gutting of this nation in every way. THIS is a guy who is laser-focused.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-24   10:22:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Liberator (#27)

"...There are far more patriots -- within the general populace, industry, and private sector -- who recognize Cruz is the only anecdote to 0buma's gutting of this nation in every way...."

1. So what makes one a "patriot?"

2. If Mr. Cruz is the only "anecdote" what will the "patriots" do if he (god forbid) does not become the republican's nominee?

Jameson  posted on  2015-03-24   10:56:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Jameson (#34)

1. So what makes one a "patriot?"

A strict Constitutionalist and America-Firster.

2. If Mr. Cruz is the only "anecdote" what will the "patriots" do if he (god forbid) does not become the republican's nominee?

That dire scenario remains to be seen. I suppose....succumb to the escalated Police State and Big Gubmint, and further destruction of the US Constitution.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-24   11:06:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Liberator (#35)

I suppose....succumb to the escalated Police State and Big Gubmint, and further destruction of the US Constitution.

well, yeah of course....

but in the short term....will you vote for Bush?

Jameson  posted on  2015-03-24   11:20:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Jameson (#37)

Will you vote for a Dem over a Pubbie in any case?

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-24   11:31:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Liberator (#40)

Will you vote for a Dem over a Pubbie in any case?

Yes, of course.

I have voted for republicans, democrats, libertarians, non-affiliated.....etc it all depends on the circumstances at that time...

I have also chosen to not vote in some races - if none of the candidates are worthy.

Jameson  posted on  2015-03-24   11:52:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Jameson (#46)

I have voted for republicans, democrats, libertarians, non-affiliated.....etc it all depends on the circumstances at that time...

Atta boy! Standing on the principles of quicksand, and casting your vote on which way the wind happens to be blowing.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-24   13:09:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Liberator (#62)

Standing on the principles of quicksand, and casting your vote on which way the wind happens to be blowing.

Heh heh....you bet.

Actually I really don't care much for political parties or labels like "conservative" or "liberal"

This style thinking is limiting, divisive, and antique.

IMHO

Jameson  posted on  2015-03-24   13:44:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Jameson (#69) (Edited)

Actually I really don't care much for political parties or labels like "conservative" or "liberal"

I guess you don't much care for defining a person or party by their respective words, deeds, actions, life philosophy, or agendas either. That's the reason for party or labels, aka "branding."

This style thinking is limiting, divisive, and antique. IMHO

It's a necessary means of discernment or judgment. Is in your opinion discernment or judgement....irrelevant?

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-24   13:49:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Liberator (#71)

I'm not going to let the Republicans off the hook. There are no "Good Republicans". There are some people with good ideas and values who have mistakenly aligned themselves with the Republican Party. As long as they remain aligned with that party, they will be neutered and rendered ineffective by the corrupt crony capitalist contingent that has dominated that party since 1868. It's not going to change, ever, and I see no value in lying to myself and pretending that it will.

The Democrats are babykillers and the Republicans are crapweasels. There may have been "Good Germans" by somebody's definition, somewhere, but it's 1943 and I'm a pilot over Germany: they're all bad. I'm not going to be discriminating, trying to find the good, because I don't care. They're the enemy, and they're all bad.

Republicans and Democrats have been so consistently bad, for so long, they have exhausted any willingness on my part to expend any further energy trying to find kernels of edible corn in their poop. Crapweasels and babykillers. They can all go die in a hole and we would be better for it.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-03-24   14:40:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Vicomte13 (#77)

I'm not going to let the Republicans off the hook. There are no "Good Republicans". There are some people with good ideas and values who have mistakenly aligned themselves with the Republican Party.

Make up your mind.

There is only ONE Party who possesses the political muscle and will to legislate morally and constitutionally, for better or worse -- at present, that is the GOP.

Now the Party can either be taken back and reclaimed as in any other war, OR we stop fight right now and surrender.

Republicans and Democrats have been so consistently bad, for so long, they have exhausted any willingness on my part to expend any further energy trying to find kernels of edible corn in their poop. Crapweasels and babykillers. They can all go die in a hole and we would be better for it.

So....ALL the Republicans and conservatives who've been fighting the good fight should just...indict themselves as no different than Dem baby-killers and destroyers of the USCON??

What would YOU have done during the dark days when Christians were tossed to the lions and crucified? Suck it up, Vic.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-25   10:47:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: Liberator (#100) (Edited)

Make up your mind.

I have. Leave the Republican Party and form a new one. There are no Good Nazis. Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas.

There are pro-life Democrat dupes too. They also believe that they can influence things in that party. They're wrong.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-03-25   14:46:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#139. To: Vicomte13 (#138)

There are pro-life Democrat dupes too. They also believe that they can influence things in that party. They're wrong.

Name these pro-life Dems. I think they're imaginary, part of your they-all-do-it fairy tales. They don't actually exist since they have no choice but to vote Dem, no matter what.

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