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Title: Let’s Be Serious About Ted Cruz From The Start: He’s Too Extreme And Too Disliked To Win
Source: FiveThirtyEight Politics
URL Source: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features ... treme-and-too-disliked-to-win/
Published: Mar 23, 2015
Author: Harry Enten
Post Date: 2015-03-23 15:57:49 by Jameson
Keywords: cruz, extreme, disliked
Views: 28444
Comments: 151

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz’s newly minted presidential campaign is the media equivalent of a juicy rib-eye that robbers use to distract a guard dog during a heist. He’ll get a ton of media attention, and he’ll get to spread his message — which may be all that Cruz is after — but Cruz almost certainly has no shot of winning the nomination, according to every indicator that predicts success in presidential primaries.

First, Cruz doesn’t have enough support from party bigwigs. To win the Republican or Democratic nomination, you need the backing of at least some of the party apparatus. At a minimum, your fellow party members shouldn’t hate you. Otherwise, you end up getting the Newt Gingrich 2012 treatment. That is, you get pounced on the moment you’re seen as a threat to win the nomination.

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#22. To: Jameson (#0)

Cruz almost certainly has no shot of winning the nomination, according to every indicator that predicts success in presidential primaries.

That's exactly what the pundits said about Reagan...

I for one hope Cruz keeps on being underestimated.

At a minimum, your fellow party members shouldn’t hate you.

Who be that? McStain? McConnell?? The whitebeard, establishment RINOs?? Their numbers are overinflated. These turncoat "bi-partisan" whores can pound salt.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-24   10:05:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Liberator (#22)

At a minimum, your fellow party members shouldn’t hate you.

Who be that? McStain? McConnell?? The whitebeard, establishment RINOs?? Their numbers are overinflated.

So....do you really believe that Cruz can be the republican's presidential nominee?

- and that this can happen without the support (and money) of the moderates?

- please don't compare Cruz to Reagan.... most people liked RR - that is simply not the case with Cruz.... Or - do you expect him to start playing the "kinder, gentler" candidate?

Jameson  posted on  2015-03-24   10:14:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Jameson (#25)

So....do you really believe that Cruz can be the republican's presidential nominee?

- and that this can happen without the support (and money) of the moderates?

Yes. Absolutely.

I hope you, the moderate'leftist pundits and the establishment-types continue to believe Cruz is unelectable based on "likeability," and impossible to finance.

There are far more patriots -- within the general populace, industry, and private sector -- who recognize Cruz is the only anecdote to 0buma's gutting of this nation in every way. THIS is a guy who is laser-focused.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-24   10:22:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Liberator (#27)

"...There are far more patriots -- within the general populace, industry, and private sector -- who recognize Cruz is the only anecdote to 0buma's gutting of this nation in every way...."

1. So what makes one a "patriot?"

2. If Mr. Cruz is the only "anecdote" what will the "patriots" do if he (god forbid) does not become the republican's nominee?

Jameson  posted on  2015-03-24   10:56:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Jameson (#34)

1. So what makes one a "patriot?"

A strict Constitutionalist and America-Firster.

2. If Mr. Cruz is the only "anecdote" what will the "patriots" do if he (god forbid) does not become the republican's nominee?

That dire scenario remains to be seen. I suppose....succumb to the escalated Police State and Big Gubmint, and further destruction of the US Constitution.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-24   11:06:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Liberator (#35)

I suppose....succumb to the escalated Police State and Big Gubmint, and further destruction of the US Constitution.

well, yeah of course....

but in the short term....will you vote for Bush?

Jameson  posted on  2015-03-24   11:20:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Jameson (#37)

Will you vote for a Dem over a Pubbie in any case?

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-24   11:31:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Liberator (#40)

Will you vote for a Dem over a Pubbie in any case?

Yes, of course.

I have voted for republicans, democrats, libertarians, non-affiliated.....etc it all depends on the circumstances at that time...

I have also chosen to not vote in some races - if none of the candidates are worthy.

Jameson  posted on  2015-03-24   11:52:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Jameson (#46)

I have voted for republicans, democrats, libertarians, non-affiliated.....etc it all depends on the circumstances at that time...

Atta boy! Standing on the principles of quicksand, and casting your vote on which way the wind happens to be blowing.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-24   13:09:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Liberator (#62)

Standing on the principles of quicksand, and casting your vote on which way the wind happens to be blowing.

Heh heh....you bet.

Actually I really don't care much for political parties or labels like "conservative" or "liberal"

This style thinking is limiting, divisive, and antique.

IMHO

Jameson  posted on  2015-03-24   13:44:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Jameson (#69) (Edited)

Actually I really don't care much for political parties or labels like "conservative" or "liberal"

I guess you don't much care for defining a person or party by their respective words, deeds, actions, life philosophy, or agendas either. That's the reason for party or labels, aka "branding."

This style thinking is limiting, divisive, and antique. IMHO

It's a necessary means of discernment or judgment. Is in your opinion discernment or judgement....irrelevant?

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-24   13:49:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Liberator (#71)

I guess you don't much care for defining a person or party by their respective words, deeds, actions, life philosophy, or agendas either.

Actually I really don't care much for political parties or labels like "conservative" or "liberal"

Maybe I wasn't clear, allow me to re-phrase...

I don't believe that everyone who is identified as a "republican" (or other designation) will all respond or act in the same manner in any given situation. Everyone responds differently.

The label or (party label) is irrelevant.

Jameson  posted on  2015-03-24   14:00:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Jameson (#74)

I don't believe that everyone who is identified as a "republican" (or other designation) will all respond or act in the same manner in any given situation. Everyone responds differently.

MOST conservatives/Republicans WILL base their life philosophy and ethics on absolutes of morality, individual liberty, and self-preservation.

MOST liberal/Democrats will base their life philosophy and ethics on feelings, moral relativism, and group-think "fairness."

The label or (party label) is irrelevant.

Is it? Don't labels define us based on either the truth or by whomever controls the political narrative based on propaganda? In our culture's case, who would deny that this arbiter is decidedly an anti-Christian, liberal-socialist philosophy?

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-25   10:38:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Liberator (#97)

MOST conservatives/Republicans WILL base their life philosophy and ethics on ....Blah, Blah, Blah

MOST liberal/Democrats will base their life philosophy and ethics on ....Blah, Blah, Blah

So....what do you think MOST "People" will base their life philosophy and ethics on ...???

Jameson  posted on  2015-03-25   11:43:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Jameson (#112)

So....what do you think MOST "People" will base their life philosophy and ethics on ...???

There are two types of people (mostly):

1) Givers, who who base their lives on a definitive standard of ethics and morality based on "The Golden Rule" or God's Laws.

2) Takers, who generally disbelieve in moral absolutes, a lack of personal responsibility, and belief that the world (and others) owe them.

And your own opinion on the matter?

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-25   12:00:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#119. To: Liberator (#116)

And your own opinion on the matter?

I believe that just about everyone will do what's best for them, in any given situation.

I think that a strong majority would profess to be "givers"....and 99% of them would be lying.

Jameson  posted on  2015-03-25 12:13:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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