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Title: How Thomas Jefferson would have handled ISIS
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URL Source: http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/04/polit ... st-war-on-terror-barbary-isis/
Published: Mar 22, 2015
Author: VxH
Post Date: 2015-03-22 17:03:29 by VxH
Keywords: None
Views: 13194
Comments: 36

The plot sounds like something plucked from today's headlines: foreign hostages, terrorism, presidential power and American diplomatic relations with the Middle East.

But the nation's first war on terror was waged by Thomas Jefferson, not George W. Bush or Barack Obama. In place of al Qaeda or ISIS, Jefferson was fighting the Barbary pirates.

In Jefferson's time, European powers conceded to terrorism by paying annual tribute and ransom to groups like the Barbary pirates, according to Robert F. Turner, co-founder of the Center for National Security Law and professor of American Foreign Policy.

Once the American colonies gained independence from Britain, their ships were left without protection from piracy at sea. As American commerce began to increase, the Barbary states targeted American merchant vessels that traveled the seas without a strong naval defense.

Ransom payments

Jefferson believed paying ransom to terrorist organizations was a sign of weakness as a nation....

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#2. To: VxH (#0)

Jefferson is long dead, I am alive, what I would do is use tactical nukes.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-03-22   17:13:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: BobCeleste (#2)

what I would do is use tactical nukes.

I don't see where that would be inconsistent with Jefferson's "eternal hostility":

"I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF GOD ETERNAL HOSTILITY TO EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN" --Thomas Jefferson

ISIS and Islam are certainly a "tyranny over the mind of man".

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   17:24:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: VxH (#3)

ISIS and Islam are certainly a "tyranny over the mind of man".

That perspective is limited in scope. It depends on your interpretation of the Qur'an.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-03-22   18:17:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: buckeroo (#4)

It depends on your interpretation of the Qur'an.

When is the objective of Islam not Sharia rule?

NO SALE.

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   18:55:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: VxH (#7)

When is the objective of Islam not Sharia rule?

When is the objective of some pentecostal luthern church from the Kentucky backwoods not some snake worshipper's self rule? You can't answer the same or similar questions because it is all madeup by charlatans, liars, thieves and cheats.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-03-22   19:00:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: buckeroo (#8) (Edited)

You can't answer the same or similar questions because it is all madeup by charlatans, liars, thieves and cheats.

But the difference between the Kentucky backwoods preacher and ISIS is that the Muslim Brotherhood would establish itself atop state-established coercive powers.

Americans have a choice not to buy what the Kentucky backwoods sheeple fleecer is selling - folks within the purview of ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood, not so much.

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   19:08:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: VxH (#9)

But the difference between the Kentucky backwoods and ISIS is that the Muslim Brotherhood would perch itself atop state-established coercive powers.

Not at all. The Kentucky backwood's hicks would have their [sisters] wives bare-footed, pregnant and skinning possum all day in the kitchen listening to some 1950's olde on a 14 transistor radio imported from China.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-03-22   19:13:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: buckeroo (#10) (Edited)

The Kentucky backwood's hicks would have their [sisters] wives bare-footed, pregnant and skinning possum all day

But unlike the ISIS miscreants enslaving and prostituting Yezidi women in Northern Iraq, Kentucky backwoods hicks wouldn't be empowered to impose their desires using coercive government powers under the dictate of a religious state-establishment.

In America, the government's specified purpose is to "SECURE THESE RIGHTS".

So if a woman wants to walk out of the cultural Kentucky backwoods she is free to do so - even if she's wearing SQUEAKY SHOES!

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   19:32:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: VxH (#11)

Sure they would. They would use their "brother Jethro" and related kindred from the local KKK pep squad to subdue the masses.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-03-22   19:35:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: buckeroo (#12) (Edited)

Not using the legal authority of the state they wouldn't.

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   19:37:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: VxH (#13)

These groups don't recoginise the authority of any state except their own.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-03-22   19:42:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: buckeroo (#14)

These groups don't recoginise the authority of any state except their own.

Do you have any data to back up your generalizations?

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-23   0:18:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#29. To: redleghunter (#26)

Don't expect a cogent answer.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-23 04:18:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: redleghunter (#26)

Do you have any data to back up your generalizations?

Yes.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-03-23 21:43:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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