LF: Move over Galileo! Saudi cleric says Earth doesn’t revolve around sun

Title: Move over Galileo! Saudi cleric says Earth doesn’t revolve around sun
Source: Just another organized religious sun-parrot
URL Source: http://rt.com/news/233063-saudi-cleric-earth-sun/
Published: Mar 22, 2015
Author: The Anti-Sunparrot
Post Date: 2015-03-22 11:06:42 by VxH
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Views: 1683
Comments: 6

A Saudi cleric has appeared in a video rejecting that Earth revolves around the sun, claiming instead that it is “stationary.” His statements have incited a fiery response on social media.

When questioned by a student about whether the Earth was stationary or moving, Sheikh Bandar al-Khaibari responded with “stationary and does not move,” Saudi-owned broadcaster Al-Arabia reported.

The earth does not revolve around the sun. Rather, the earth, sun, planets and other objects in the solar system spiral forward around the center of mass of the solar system, which is about a half-million miles above the surface of the Sun. The Sun itself revolves around that, as do the other planets. Everything spirals around that center of mass, which itself spirals around the center of mass of the galaxy.

As far as the earth being stationary, it depends on one's frame of reference. If one chooses to set the earth as the stationary center of everything, one can. Then every revolves around it, but the paths of the orbits are not circles or ellipses, but curlycues and other patterns, without any apparent cause.

When we place the sun at the center of the system, we have a more regular pattern and can mathematically pattern it, although it does not work out perfectly mathematically. When we put the center of mass as the center, then the math works out far better. Of course, the Sun itself ALSO revolves around the center of mass, so that means that the earth does not revolve around the Sun, but both revolve around the center of mass.

We can choose any reference point, and if we set that as our stable reference point, then everything revolves around it, but there is no causational link. As long as we continue to believe in gravity as 'force at a distance", then the mathematical center of mass of the solar system provides not just a model for the (accurate) prediction of the movements of the Sun and the planets relative to each other, but also provides an apparent causation of the orbit.

Likewise, the moon does not orbit the earth. Both moon and earth orbit the mathematical center of mass of the earth moon system.

The moon orbits in the eigenstate determined by the earth's gravitational field.

It seems they're having difficulty grasping that whole "truth is great and will prevail" concept...

"...who, being themselves but fallible and uninspired men, have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavoring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world, and through all time;

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that it is time enough for the rightful purposes of civil government, for its officers to interfere when principles break out into overt acts against peace and good order; and finally, that truth is great and will prevail if left to herself, that she is the proper and sufficient antagonist to error, and has nothing to fear from the conflict, unless by human interposition disarmed of her natural weapons, free argument and debate, errors ceasing to be dangerous when it is permitted freely to contradict them. "

"I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF GOD ETERNAL HOSTILITY TO EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN"
--The Virginia Act For Establishing Religious Freedom
--Thomas Jefferson, 1786
https://www.google.com/webhp?#q=truth%20is%20great%20and%20will%20prevail%20if%20left%20to%20herself

I see a Sun that comes up on one side of the sky, travels over it, and then sets on the other side.

As far as I can see, I live on a piece of land with a sky overhead, and changeful things passing through that sky on a regular basis. I don't see the other side of the earth, or what's over the horizon, or what's past the tree- line. I'm told it's there and I believe it.

I always figured we had to be living in a great big bowl or something...
or else all the ocean water would've drained off the edge and out into space.