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Title: Police departments hiring immigrants as officers
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USA Today
URL Source: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/ ... rant-police-officers/70236828/
Published: Mar 21, 2015
Author: Alan Gomez
Post Date: 2015-03-21 18:29:31 by cranky
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Views: 17093
Comments: 67
Law enforcement agencies struggling to fill their ranks or connect with their increasingly diverse populations are turning to immigrants to fill the gap. Most agencies in the country require officers or deputies to be U.S. citizens, but some are allowing immigrants who are legally in the country to wear the badge. From Hawaii to Vermont, agencies are allowing green-card holders and legal immigrants with work permits to join their ranks. At a time when 25,000 non-U.S. citizens are serving in the U.S. military, some feel it's time for more police and sheriff departments to do the same. That's why the Nashville Police Department is joining other departments to push the state legislature to change a law that bars non-citizens from becoming law enforcement officers. Department spokesman Don Aaron said they want immigrants who have been honorably discharged from the military to be eligible for service. "Persons who have given of themselves in the service to this country potentially have much to offer Tennesseans," he said. "We feel that ... would benefit both the country and this city." Current rules vary across departments. Some, like the Chicago and Hawaii police departments, allow any immigrant with a work authorization from U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services to become an officer. That means people in the country on temporary visas or are applying for green cards can join. Colorado State Patrol Sgt. Justin Mullins said the department usually struggles to fill trooper positions in less populous corners of the state, including patrol sectors high up in the mountains. He said immigrants from Canada, the Bahamas, the United Kingdom, Mexico and Central America who are willing to live in those remote places have helped the agency fill those vacancies. "People that want to live there and build a family there and work there is a little more difficult to find," Mullins said. "People moving from out of state, or out of the country, if they're willing to work in these areas, then that's great for us." Other agencies, like the Cincinnati Police Department and the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department, require that officers at least have a pending citizenship application on file with the federal government. And others, like the Burlington, Vt., and Boulder, Colo., police departments, require that officers be legal permanent residents, or green-card holders. With more immigrants moving to places far from the southern border or away from traditional immigrant magnets like New York City or Miami, agency leaders say it's important to have a more diverse police force to communicate with those immigrants and understand their culture. Bruce Bovat, deputy chief of operations in Burlington, said their immigrant officers help the agency be more "reflective of the community we serve." Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, said he has no problems with green-card holders becoming police officers because they've made a long-term commitment to the country and have undergone extensive background checks. But he worries about the security risks associated with allowing any immigrant with a work permit to become an officer, especially considering that the Obama administration has given hundreds of thousands of undocumented immigrants work permits. "We're handing over a gun and a badge to somebody whose background we don't really know a lot about," Krikorian said. Ali Noorani, executive director of the National Immigration Forum, said any immigrant authorized to work in the U.S. has already undergone a thorough background check and will undergo even more screening in the police application process. "The security risk is a straw man," he said. "This is about people who have gone through criminal background checks, who are meeting the very high standards that we set as a country to stay here and who only want to serve and protect their communities."
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#28. To: A K A Stone, pericles (#27)
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When I went through Basic training back circa 1985, we had an immigrant from Lebanon who was a "former" Shiite militiaman in our platoon. (Most) of the drill Sergeants hated him.... all except the African American one who made him a squad leader. The others made it their hobby to try to get him to quit, but he turned out to be one tough S.O.B. and graduated despite their efforts. That was interesting to watch. No idea where he ended up after graduation. Always wondered how and where he applied the skills he got courtesy the U.S. Army.
Soldiers shouldn't be foreigners. I agree on both counts. Cops, military, judges and elected officials should all be citizens.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
The problem I have is the freak out nature of the current conservatives. We have legal resident "Green Card" aliens in the US military and in some police depts. I don't get this fear? What will they do? Carry out a coup against the desendents of the Mayflower?
Nidal Malik Hasan (born September 8, 1970, in Arlington County, Virginia) is a Palestinian-American former United States Army psychiatrist and Medical Corps officer who, while still serving as a major in the US military, fatally shot 13 people and injured more than 30 others in the Fort Hood mass shooting on November 5, 2009.[3] At his court-martial in August 2013, Hasan admitted to the shootings.[4][5]
Don't ever PM me again. Your comments in PM are just as irrational and wrong as they are in the open forum.
I agree on both counts. Cops, military, judges and elected officials should all be citizens. ---' GrandIsland I went through basic in 1955, when there were a lot of displaced persons of my age volunteered for service as an easy way to attain citizenship. -- A good friend of mine (Latvian DP) ended up serving 20 years. And another trooper I served with had been in the 'volkstrum?' as a 13 year old boy, in 1945.. -- Good soldier..
Jeffry Dahmer - army veteran. The Beltway sniper - army veteran. All natural born American citizens.
Don't forget Timmuh.
They will take an American job. It isn't right for a foreigner to come into your country then have the authority to tell you what to do or arrest you. If you can't see that you need new eyes. Should Americans be in Russia acting as Police and arresting people?
There can be good people that are foreign who serve in the military. I just think on principal it is wrong.
It isn't right for a foreigner to come into your country then have the authority to tell you what to do or arrest you. He is not a foreigner if he is a legal alien. They would be enforcing American law. So I don't get the freak out. You want the sole right for humiliating you by being arrested to belong solely in the hands of an American citizen?
Yes you are a foreigner. Even if you have a green card.
A legal resident is not a foreigner.
Yeah. They get a card and suddenly the didn't come from a foreign country. Those foreigners who work in convenience stores. They are foreigners too. Even if they allegedly became citizens. for·eign·er ÈfôrYnYr/Submit noun a person born in or coming from a country other than one's own.
Like Senator Ted Cruz?
I remain unconvinced that McVeigh was anything more than a sock puppet. The trial and later execution went very quickly; the speed of government interaction for this single case was unprecedented by the federal government standards which may indicate "nervousness" about publick closure of the matter. The case is not closed in my opinion.
So what sock puppet or mastermind? A good old American born, Apple Pie eating citizen was involved in the terrorist plot. By the way, Texas Tower sniper and Lee Harvey Oswald, American born citizen Marines.
Ask Mike Loudenslager how closed it is.
The home-bred CIA organization is responsible for a lot of bullshit not just around the world but right here in the good ol' USA! Yep, those homeboys, whom have secret USA government financing, do anything they damn well please. PSST ... don't tell anyone. They don't like that sort of thing as they are a secretive group.
Ask Timmuh's Iraqi Republican Guard drinking buddies.
Which half, the American half or the KGB infiltrated half? Been a while since we had a good espionage trial.
I need a 21st century Houdini to help channel that activity into the spirit world. Can you help me? I can't read crystal balls all by myself.
Been a while since we had a good espionage trial. Or even Britain's M16 or other allies such as: Israel's Mossad. These government suport groups are sucking trillions of taxpayer dollars from the common American citizen.
Yeah, people seem to notice that from time to time.
Well,
Whats this asshole have to do with the Universe around me?
PKD was a just an author. One of the books he wrote "The Penultimate Truth" described a world in which the military industrial complex maintained a facade of conflict to prop itself up atop, and profit from, the sheeple's fear. Many of his books have been made into movies - including Blade Runner. But he died before any of that profit was realized. Some of his more interesting workproduct was semi-autobiographical. V.A.L.I.S, for example - where he described pink lights he believed were inflicted upon him by the CIA or the KGB or...
I don't need to read science fiction about this serious matter. Ike Eisenhower informed everyone of the problem. Have you eve read Ike's parting speech?
Good post. Maybe someone will listen.
Some of PKD's more interesting later work was derived from auto-biographical sources. The Transmigration of Timothy Archer, for example - dealt with the death of an acquaintance of his who was a Bishop in the Catholic Church... and met his demise seeking occult secrets in some Middle Eastern desert. There are some stories that would rather not be told it seems.
Good one. :) His mother was an American. Your turn.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Berg But like Archer and Loudenslager, he met his demise looking for a story that didn't want to be told.
American DNA was not good enough for her to breed with?
https://portal.chicagopolice.org/portal/page/portal/ClearPath/FAQ/Becoming%20a%20Police%20Officer Chicago PD Yes, as long as you have an Employment Authorization Document (EAD) from U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services. Proof, such as an Alien Registration Card (Green Card) will be required if you are called for further processing.
When there is a draft, they can be drafted.
Police Departments Hiring Non-citizen Immigrants Written by Warren Mass While most police departments in the country require their police officers to be U.S. citizens, some do not, with the Metropolitan Nashville Police Department in Tennessee being the latest large department to consider such a policy. A spokesman for the department, Don Aaron, said it seeks to hire immigrants who have been honorably discharged from the U.S. military to be eligible for police service, USA Today reported. “Persons who have given of themselves in the service to this country potentially have much to offer Tennesseans,” Aaron said. “We feel that ... would benefit both the country and this city.” Presently, only U.S. citizens can become law enforcement officers in Tennessee. However, about 5,000 permanent residents who aren’t citizens join the U.S. military each year. More than 92,000 people who joined the military before becoming citizens achieved their citizenship during their service since 2011. That prohibition could change if a bill currently in the Tennessee state legislature passes. HB 0765, introduced in the House by Rep. Jason Powell (D-Nashville) and a companion bill, SB 1012, introduced by Sen. Steven Dickerson (R-Nashville), would permit any permanent legal resident of the United States who is an honorably discharged veteran of the U.S. armed forces to be employed as a police officer. “My assertion is that if you are willing to risk your life on the streets of Baghdad, then you should be allowed to serve your city and risk your life helping to protect Lower Broadway,” Powell told the Tennessean newspaper on March 11. The Tennessean reported that Metropolitan Nashville Police Chief Steve Anderson asked Powell to file the legislation needed to make the change in policy. Anderson told state legislators that the increasing diversity in Nashville also increases the need for a diverse police force. “Here in Nashville, we can’t keep all of Nashville safe unless we can keep all of Nashville safe,” Anderson said. “Having communities or pockets of Nashville where there’s not confidence in us, or where we don’t have the relationship or the communication, affects all of Nashville.” Anderson did not explain why members of the ethnically diverse communities he mentioned could not become citizens first and then join the police force. The Tennessean cited Powell’s statement that though he has not heard any statements in opposition to the bill, he did have to answer some questions about whether illegal immigrants would be eligible to apply for jobs as police officers if the bill passes. Though the U.S. military has a pilot program allowing a small number of illegal immigrants to join, Powell said his bill applies only to permanent residents who are here legally. Powell explained that when non-citizen permanent residents join the military, they start on a track to earn their citizenship, a process that can take as long as five years. Two of the three largest police departments in the nation currently allow non-citizens to apply for positions as police officers. The Chicago Police Department (which, with about 12,244 officers is the nation’s second-largest) currently hires non-citizens. The answer to an FAQ on the department’s website inquiring about whether a non-citizen may apply states: “Yes, as long as you have an Employment Authorization Document (EAD) from U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services. Proof, such as an Alien Registration Card (Green Card) will be required if you are called for further processing.” The third-largest department in the nation, the Los Angeles Police Department (with 9,843 officers), requires that a police officer candidate who is not a citizen be a permanent resident alien who meets the citizenship requirements of the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) and has applied for citizenship. Each non-citizen is required to prove that USCIS has accepted his/her application for citizenship prior to the date the police officer applicant's written test is taken. California state law requires that citizenship be granted within three years after the employment application date. [...] The first Irish immigrant on record who was hired as a policeman in a U.S. city was Bernard “Barney” McGinniskin, whose became a Boston policeman in 1851. McGinniskin’s appointment was not without controversy, however, and City Marshal Francis Tukey criticized the decision, asserting it had been done at “the expense of an American.”
At this point Percy should plead mercy. Seriously, I would have hoped conservatives would up their game and not resort to these kinds of predictable freak outs. I miss William F. Buckley - it's like when he died all the misanthropes he kept out of the conservative club came back in.
Thanks for this documentation, I had no idea. It certainly shines a spotlight on the ruse pushed by progressives that immigrants are here to do the work Americans won't do.
Or the American people should plead mercy.
But they can be soldiers?
#29. To: A K A Stone (#27)
#30. To: A K A Stone (#27)
#31. To: Pericles (#30)
I don't get this fear? What will they do?
Nidal Malik Hasan 
Born Nidal Malik Hasan
September 8, 1970 [1]
Arlington County, Virginia, USANationality American Death sentence Parent(s) Deceased Motive Jihad[2] Killings Date November 5, 2009
c. 1:34 p.m. – c. 1:44 p.m.Location(s) Fort Hood, Texas, US. Target(s) U.S. Army soldiers and civilians Killed 13 Injured 32 Weapon(s) FN Five-seven pistol Imprisoned at U.S. Disciplinary Barracks
#32. To: Pericles (#30)
#33. To: GrandIsland, AKA Stone, Y'ALL (#29)
A K A Stone (#27) --- Soldiers shouldn't be foreigners.
#34. To: VxH (#31)
#35. To: Pericles (#34)
#36. To: Pericles (#30)
What will they do? Carry out a coup against the desendents of the Mayflower?
#37. To: tpaine (#33)
#38. To: A K A Stone (#36)
(Edited)
They will take an American job.
#39. To: Pericles (#38)
He is not a foreigner if he is a legal alien.
#40. To: A K A Stone (#39)
Yes you are a foreigner. Even if you have a green card.
#41. To: Pericles (#40)
A legal resident is not a foreigner.
#42. To: A K A Stone (#41)
or·eign·er ÈfôrYnYr/Submit noun a person born in or coming from a country other than one's own.
#43. To: VxH (#35)
Don't forget Timmuh.
#44. To: buckeroo, VxH (#43)
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I remain unconvinced that McVeigh was anything more than a sock puppet.
#45. To: buckeroo (#43)
The case is not closed in my opinion.
#46. To: Pericles (#44)
So what sock puppet or mastermind? A good old American born, Apple Pie eating citizen was involved in the terrorist plot. By the way, Texas Tower sniper and Lee Harvey Oswald, American born citizen Marines.
#47. To: Pericles (#44)
So what sock puppet or mastermind?
#48. To: buckeroo (#46)
(Edited)
The home-bred CIA organization
#49. To: VxH (#45)
Ask Mike Loudenslager how closed it is.
#50. To: VxH (#48)
Which half, the American half or the KGB infiltrated half?
#51. To: buckeroo (#50)
These government suport groups are sucking trillions of taxpayer dollars from the common American citizen.
#52. To: buckeroo (#49)
I need a 21st century Houdini to help channel that activity into the spirit world.
#53. To: VxH (#51)
#54. To: buckeroo (#53)
(Edited)
Whats this asshole have to do with the Universe around me?
#55. To: VxH (#54)
#56. To: buckeroo (#55)
Have you eve read Ike's parting speech?
#57. To: VxH (#56)
#58. To: buckeroo (#55)
(Edited)
I don't need to read science fiction about this serious matter
#59. To: Pericles (#42)
Like Senator Ted Cruz?
#60. To: buckeroo (#57)
(Edited)
Good post. Maybe someone will listen.
#61. To: A K A Stone (#59)
His mother was an American.
#62. To: Pericles, Percy Misanthrope (#14)
I am a citizen of a foreign country. Am I eligible to become a Chicago police officer?
#63. To: A K A Stone (#37)
There can be good people that are foreign who serve in the military.
#64. To: Pericles, Percy Misanthrope (#14)
Monday, 23 March 2015
#65. To: nolu chan, Percy Misanthrope (#64)
#66. To: nolu chan (#62)
#67. To: Pericles, Percy Misanthrope (#65)
At this point Percy should plead mercy.
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