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Title: Children raised by gay couples thank Dolce & Gabbana for supporting traditional marriage amidst Elton John’s boycott
Source: Life Site News
URL Source: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/c ... edium=email&utm_term=0_0caba61
Published: Mar 20, 2015
Author: Thaddeus Baklinski
Post Date: 2015-03-20 23:35:25 by redleghunter
Keywords: None
Views: 42101
Comments: 187

March 20, 2015 (LifeSiteNews) - Six Americans raised by homosexual parents sent a letter of support thanking openly gay fashion legends Domenico Dolce and Stefano Gabbana for their recent remarks defending the traditional family.

Gay activists, spearheaded by singer Elton John, have condemned the pair and urged a boycott of their fashion line after they told the Italian magazine Panorama that they oppose gay “marriage” and adoption, find in vitro fertilization unnatural, believe procreation “must be an act of love,” and that “the only family is the traditional one.”

The letter, published in Tempi this week, says the six signatories – five women and one man – "want to thank you for giving voice to something that we learned by experience: Every human being has a mother and a father, and to cut either from a child’s life is to rob the child of dignity, humanity, and equality."

"We know that you will come under tremendous pressure, especially now when both Italy and the United States are being pushed to override our concerns for our rights to a mom and dad, in order to please a powerful gay lobby," the group said.

They explained that it was their experience that, "Nobody receives more vicious attacks from the lobby than those who come from the gay community and question its policies: children of gay couples just as much as the gay men who defend them (like the two of you).

"You have shown yourselves to be extremely brave. You have given us great inspiration as all six of us prepare to submit letters to the US Supreme Court against gay marriage."

"We want to praise your courage and thank you for your inspiration," the signatories said, and implored Dolce and Gabbana "not to surrender when the backlash grows in intensity."

"If you back down from what you said and apologize," the group concluded, "it will leave the children of gay homes even more vulnerable and discredited. It is important for our sake, for the sake of Italian children as well, that you not apologize or capitulate. Please support the idea that all children need to be bonded with their mothers and fathers. It is a human right."

"It's not us who invented the family," Dolce said in the recent interview in Italy’s Panorama magazine. "You are born and you have a mother and a father.

"Or at least it should be so, that's why I'm skeptical about what I call the sons of the chemistry, synthetic children, wombs for rent, seeds chosen by a catalog. And then, let's go to these children and explain them who is their mother. Would you ever accept to be a daughter of the chemistry? Procreation needs to be an act of love."

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#51. To: Liberator (#49)

Why don't you and RedLegDribbler (or one of the other Waltardian dipshits in the peanut gallery) tell the class again how Franklin, Jefferson, and Paine weren't deists?

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   12:13:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: VxH (#38)

Long after Washington died, when asked about Washington's beliefs, Abercrombie replied: "Sir, Washington was a Deist!" [19][unreliable source?]

Thanks for the "unreliable source."

Thomas Jefferson Virginia Episcopalian (Deist)
Benjamin Franklin Pennsylvania

WOW! What an extensive list of Deists!!

FAIL.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-22   12:15:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: VxH, releghunter (#51)

You're putting on quite a clinic of Epic Fails. (careful you don't trip over your clown-shoes and fall on your alleged brain another hundred times. )

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-22   12:18:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: VxH (#17)

Title: Children raised by gay couples thank Dolce & Gabbana for supporting traditional marriage amidst Elton John’s boycott

VxH analysis:

"Well, that's organized religion for ya."

Gee, thanks for the focus and staying on topic as usual....You have an extraordinary attention span.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-22   12:23:12 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: A K A Stone (#44) (Edited)

Thank God there is redemption and forgiveness.

It is my Deistic observation that a Creator exists, and has existed, beyond temporal space and time. I observe that I am an Individual bound within the laws of the temporal universe -and am thus eternally and infinitely separated from an entity not so bound.

Resolving that separation is the sacrificial role of the temporal (in the space and time sense) personification of that Creator - the Son, Jesus Christ.

Mediating between temporal and non-temporal is the role of the third person of the Trinity: the Holy Spirit.

That is what is self-evident to me, as is the path which might've led folks like Franklin, Jefferson, Washington, Paine, and others to reject the organized religious subjugation of their youth; subjugation manufactured by the state-established owners from whom they intended to extract themselves and their progeny. Evidently it was a process that led them to toss the Trinitarian baby out along with the state-established bath/Ba'al water.

By the Grace of God, I've found no reason to reject the Trinity and embrace their Unitarian solution. I have no quarrel with Individuals who embrace such a faith for themselves.

But, when organized religious herd-goons aspire toward nothing more than to inflict their Fallible and Uninspired opinions upon those within their purview, well --- "I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF GOD ETERNAL HOSTILITY TO EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN" -- Jefferson's American response to ~that, seems completely reasonable.

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   12:43:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Liberator (#52) (Edited)

Why don't you and RedLegDribbler (or one of the other Walltardian dipshits in the peanut gallery) tell the class again how Franklin, Jefferson, and Paine weren't deists?

What's the seating capacity of the building located exactly 1 mile North of the White Hut, and 2 miles North of the Jefferson Memorial? Must've been expensive. I wonder who paid for it.

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   12:44:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: A K A Stone (#29) (Edited)

and we all just make up what our own beliefs.

Like the Mormons did?

Like the Muslims did?

Like the Scientologists did?

Are they not each and every one of them an (organized) TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN?

Water freezes at 32 degrees regardless of my belief.

The order of the Creator is manifested, and revealed, throughout nature -- but whether it's Lucifer or Nebuchadnezzar that's identified in Isaiah 14 by his heinous King James, not so much.

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   13:00:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: VxH (#57)

and we all just make up what our own beliefs. Like the Mormons did?

Like the Muslims did?

Like the Scientologists did?

Those are good exampleso of made up pretend religions.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-22   13:05:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: VxH (#57)

but whether it's Lucifer or Nebuchadnezzar that's identified in Isaiah 14 by his heinous King James, not so much.

There go your riddles again.

Problem is I know where you are going with them.

The King James Bible doesn't make out God to be Lucifer or Nebuchadnezzar to be Lucifer etc. You have a misunderstanding. You took took that wrong belief. Now you make decisions based on your false belief. That then causes you to argue and try to make points that have no basis in reality.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-22   13:07:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: A K A Stone (#58)

Those are good exampleso of made up pretend religions.

Are they organized? Is the tyranny they inflict upon those within their purview corporately organized?

Meanwhile, the self-evidence of natural order exists for comprehension by Individuals from "ALMIGHTY GOD HATH CREATED THE MIND FREE".

To America's founders - the perception of that natural order and the happiness rendered in so doing was an inalienable right.

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   13:10:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: VxH (#60)

Those are good exampleso of made up pretend religions. Are they organized?

They are actually kind of unorganized. As they contain many inconsistencies and contradictions. Unlike the Holy Bible.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-22   13:11:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: VxH (#60)

Meanwhile, the self-evidence of natural order exists

Is it self evident to you that man didn't evolve? That it takes a male and a female to reproduce. Thus requiring a special creation event.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-22   13:12:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: A K A Stone (#59)

The King James Bible doesn't make out God to be Lucifer or Nebuchadnezzar to be Lucifer etc.

King James is the only version that substitutes Lucifer in place of NebuchadnezZAR.

That's understandable, given that King Jimuh himself was nothing more than a sun-prince propped up atop a temporal KaiSARean state-establishing fraud.

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   13:13:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: VxH (#63)

King James is the only version that substitutes Lucifer in place of NebuchadnezZAR.

The King James version is a true translation.

You should start a thread on what you believe instead of making accusations and not backing them up with anything.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-22   13:18:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: A K A Stone (#62)

Is it self evident to you that man didn't evolve? That it takes a male and a female to reproduce. Thus requiring a special creation event.

It's self-evident to me that human sexual morphology only manifests male anatomy in response to androgen hormones.

A response that is visibly absent in the vestigial female anatomy of XY Androgen insensitive individuals.
=======================

"Holding their two little miracles at home: The woman born a MAN and told she would never conceive cradles twin girls with her husband Hayley Haynes, 28, was born without a womb, ovaries or fallopian tubes Doctors told her she had XY chromosomes, genetically making her male When she was told she would never conceive it left Hayley feeling 'sick' She had babies Avery and Darcey after IVF treatment using an egg donor Said becoming a mother was the 'single most amazing moment of my life'
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/...eared-no-man-want-me.html

==================

It's also self-evident that such rare anomalies are exploited by transhumanist/postgenderists whose goal is the perversion of nature in their own image instead of living in harmony with it. Just like they did circa Romans 1:25+

Nonetheless, the fact that human sexual morphology begins with female characteristics raises obvious questions with Biblical creation mythology.

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   13:22:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: A K A Stone (#64) (Edited)

The King James version is a true translation.

Lucifer (/ÈlsjfYr/ LEW-sif-Yr) is the King James Version rendering of the Hebrew word הֵילֵל in Isaiah 14:12. This word, transliterated hêlêl[1] or heylel,[2] occurs only once in the Hebrew Bible[1] and according to the KJV-influenced Strong's Concordance means "shining one, morning star".[2] The word Lucifer is taken from the Latin Vulgate,[3] which translates הֵילֵל as lucifer,[Isa 14:12][4][5] meaning "the morning star, the planet Venus", or, as an adjective, "light-bringing".[6] The Septuagint renders הֵילֵל in Greek as ἑÉÃÆÌÁ¿Â[7][8][9][10][11] (heMsphoros),[12][13][14] a name, literally "bringer of dawn", for the morning star.[15]

Later Christian tradition came to use the Latin word for "morning star", lucifer, as a proper name ("Lucifer") for the Devil; as he was before his fall.[16] As a result, "'Lucifer' has become a by-word for Satan/the Devil in the Church and in popular literature

[snip]

However, according to both Christian[19] and Jewish exegesis, in the Book of Isaiah, chapter 14, the King of Babylon, Nebuchadnezzar II, conqueror of Jerusalem, is condemned in a prophetic vision by the prophet Isaiah and is called the "Morning Ha" (planet Venus).[20][21]

 

So Nebuchadnezzar got transforned by popular, Fallible and Uninspired, culture into The Devil.

Oops!

I wonder what the Yezidi (who worship fallen peacock angels) being slaughtered in Northern Iraq because of their "Infidelity" think of that little, religiously organized, snafu?

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   13:33:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: VxH (#65)

So the deist position is that mud turns into people. Sex isn't required to bring children into the world (Or artificial sex where a guy jerks off and someone in a white jacket implants the semen in a woman.)

The egg came before the chicken.

One piece of grass evolved from the mud. Then it had a seed and there were two blaes of grass. Then the next winter those seeds survived and there were 4 or 6 pieces of grass. Then the seeds survived until the next winter and there were 12 pieces of grass......

Tell me how the sexual organs evolved?

Tell me how the eye evolved.

Tell me how mud created a person with lungs, heart, veins and the whole of a person . Then covered itself in skin. Did the skin evolve first or did the heart. Did he heart not used to be in a body incased by skin. If the skin evolved how did it live without a living breathing person with a heart.

Did the brain evolve first or the heart.

Did there used to be some people not formally formed yet and they had a heart but no brain. Or was it they had a brain but no heart.

How did fingers evolve. And did he have fingers before feet?

Also why aren't we evolving anymore. Why aren 't kangaroos evolving anymore. Why isn't anything evolving anymore.

What came first people or food?

Did the bumbleebee evolve before the flower. Or did the flower evolve first. Since Bees need flowers to survive. They flowers must have come first right. Why does some mud turn into plants and some into animals and some into people.

The first person who had sex. Where did their sperm come from?

Since we came from monkeys. You're probably wondering why it is taboo to fuck a monkey. Hey we came from monkeys we should fuck them right?

What about...

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-22   13:36:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: VxH (#66)

Hey I have an idea. Just quote the verse and we will discuss it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-22   13:37:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: A K A Stone (#67) (Edited)

The fact before the court is that human sexual anatomy presents female vestigial form until affected by Androgen hormones.

Explain ~that using Genesis.

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   13:39:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: A K A Stone (#67) (Edited)

Hey we came from monkeys we should fuck them right?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simian_immunodeficiency_virus

Stupid is as stupid does.

Meanwhile, genetic influence upon altruism and other social behaviors has been an area of interesting study going on 30+ years.

www.goodreads.com/book/sh...ex_Evolution_and_Behavior

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   13:49:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: A K A Stone (#67) (Edited)

What about...

How did Meisosis (sexual reproduction)...

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"The evolution of meiosis, however, poses problems of a different order. The crucial but reasonable deduction, based on both cytology and genetics, is that meiosis evolved from mitosis (Cavalier-Smith 1981; Simchen and Hugerat 1993). While the various similarities between the two forms of cell division argue for a close evolutionary relationship between them, the greater complexity of meiosis indicates that it is the derived process. Furthermore, while mitosis is universal in eukaryotic species, meiosis is merely ubiquitous, consistent with its loss in some eukaryotic lineages. Comparative evidence suggests that meiosis appeared early in eukaryotic cell history (Ramesh et al. 2005; Schurko and Logsdon 2008), and its high degree of similarity in different taxonomic groups suggests that it arose only once..."

http://www.genetics.org/content/181/1/3.full

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...evolve from Mitosis - and what adaptive advantages would that've created?

See, now YMMV - but I think it's a lot more humane and fun for folks to be able to ask these questions (courtesy the freedoms secured by our American founders) than to be chased around the countryside for the infidel "sin" of asking questions that challenge the dogmatic pyre du jour.

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   14:15:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Liberator (#33)

Not to mention those in the Alinsky clan worship Jefferson as the only founder of note. Bubba did and Zero does.

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-22   15:59:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: VxH, A K A Stone, liberator, Vicomte13 (#38)

"Sir, Washington was a Deist!"[19][unreliable source?]

I already called you on the Wiki admitted unreliable source. That's what Wiki posts when, well the source is unreliable.

Maybe Vic and I can go into Jefferson's wiki page and put in there he was a 4th degree Knights of Columbus. This way I can post it here as an unreliable source.

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-22   16:07:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: A K A Stone (#67)

Since we came from monkeys. You're probably wondering why it is taboo to fuck a monkey. Hey we came from monkeys we should fuck them right?

AIDS probably came from monkeys, and it may have been transmitted through sex. Fags have warped minds, they stick gerbils up their butts, so I would not be at all surprised if some were corn-holing monkeys. Fags declared war on nature, and nature fought them back. Nature is God's creation, and I suspect that if we were smart enough we could glean an operating manual for his creation from the Bible.

The bible warned about the dangers of homosexuality, fags ignored it, and they brought AIDS to mankind. Hebrews 6:7 tells of the benefit in allowing the earth to soak up rains, instead of spending millions to promote in-soak in the uplands we spent billions to dam rich productive bottom lands. There is a lot to be learned from the Bible. For a normal person the very acts that define the sodomite are disgusting, and that is probably an instinct with which we were endowed by our creator.

nativist nationalist  posted on  2015-03-22   16:17:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: redleghunter (#73)

 

Did you call yourself out yet, Redlegdribbler?

From the source YOU posted:

 

Thomas Jefferson

Virginia

Episcopalian (Deist)

Benjamin Franklin

Pennsylvania

Episcopalian (Deist)


Oops.  But then disengenuous sheeple herders like you never hold yourselves accountable to the truth.

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   16:33:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: nativist nationalist (#74)

For a normal person the very acts that define the sodomite are disgusting

Healthy folks have natural common sense.

Observe how the homosexualists have infested various religious organizations with the effect of subversively indoctrinating and desensitizing those within their purview against that natural protective instinct.

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   16:40:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: VxH, liberator, A K A Stone, GarySpFc (#42)

Name calling makes you look weak.

As I stated Franklin more aligns with Unitarian. A Unitarian would not take communion in an Episcopal church since that church believes in the real presence of Christ in the bread and wine.

Take the whole counsel of Franklin and not just Wiki. His views did change over time.

His final creed was the following:

Here is my Creed: I believe in one God, Creator of the Universe. That He governs it by his Providence. That he ought to be worshipped. That the most acceptable Service we can render to him, is doing Good to his other Children…. I think the System of Morals [devised by Jesus] and his Religion as he left them to us, the best the World ever saw, or is likely to see; but I apprehend it has received various corrupting Changes, and I have with most of the present Dissenters in England, some Doubts as to his Divinity.

The statement on Divine Providence puts him at odds with deism. Franklin's statement denying the Deity of Christ puts him at odds with orthodox Christianity. His beliefs more align with Unitarian or today Jehovah's witnesses.

Jefferson is all over the map.

Paine, from what I observe, was closer to an atheist than a deist.

There are some sources which show Paine denied any Deity.

In Last Words of sinners and saints, Paine in his dying words said thus:

"I would give worlds, if I had them, that Age of Reason had not been published. O Lord, help me! Christ help me! O God what have I done to suffer so much? But there is no God! But if there should be, what will become of me hereafter? Stay with me, for God's sake! ...If ever the devil had an agent, I have been that one." (Thomas Paine)

Source:Last Words of Saints and Sinners:(p. 132)

Paine

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-22   16:57:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: redleghunter (#77) (Edited)

As I stated Franklin more aligns with Unitarian

But that's not what the link you pasted asserts.

Benjamin Franklin

Pennsylvania

Episcopalian (Deist)

Once again you demonstrate you're nothing more than a disingenuous Fallible and Uninspired parrot looking to assume dominion over the faith of others - in this case, the other being Ben Franklin. FAIL

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   17:07:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Liberator (#43)

t is absolutely remarkably comical that in your pedestrian microscopic mind that the other Founders knelt before Thomas Jefferson.

They loved him so much to cashier him to Paris while drafting the Constitution.

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-22   17:18:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: redleghunter, liberator (#79) (Edited)

They loved him so much to cashier him to Paris while drafting the Constitution.

Feb 17 1801 -- Thomas Jefferson is elected

On this day in 1801, Thomas Jefferson is elected the third president of the United States. The election constitutes the first peaceful transfer of power from one political party to another in the United States.

By 1800, when he decided to run for president, Thomas Jefferson possessed impressive political credentials and was well-suited to the presidency. In addition to drafting the Declaration of Independence, Jefferson had served in two Continental Congresses, as minister to France, as secretary of state under George Washington and as John Adams’ vice president.

www.history.com/this-day-...omas-jefferson-is-elected
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How'come you WallTard good-ol-boys didn't try to unexist any of the other Enlightened Deists from the Texas curriculum?

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   17:33:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: VxH, liberator, A K A Stone, GarySpFc (#78)

Read his letter. Divine Providence is not a deist term. Deists viewed an uninterested Creator. The watch maker.

Franklin shows more signs of Unitarian. There is a God involved in the affairs of men. Franklin did not deny such a God as the deists did but he was also not a Trinitarian. He most aligns with the Arian beliefs on One God. So today he would have been either a Unitarian or Jehovah Witness.

Paine's dying words as I quoted makes him no deist as they believed in a Deity Creator. He was more an agnostic or atheist.

Paine had quite a following and some of them had last words like him:

William Pope was a follower of Thomas Paine.

WILLIAM POPE, who died in 1797, is said to have been the leader of a company of infidels who ridiculed everything religious. One of their exercises was to kick the Bible about the floor or tear it up. Friends who were present in his death-chamber spoke of it as a scene of terror as he died crying:

"I have no contrition. I cannot repent. God will damn me. I know the day of grace is past . . . You see one who is damned forever . . Oh, Eternity! Eternity! . Nothing for me but hell. Come, eternal torments . . . I hate everything God has made, only I have no hatred for the devil -- I wish to be with him. I long to be in hell. Do you not see? Do you not see him? He is coming for me?" http://www.sermonnotebook.org/new%20testament/Heb%202_3.htm

Lockyer, Herbert, All The Last Words Of Saints And Sinners (Grand Rapids: Kregel, 1969) 132-133.

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-22   17:33:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: VxH (#46)

And yet he was the ONLY one singled out by WallTardian dipshits like you when they reformed the Texas skewel curriculum.

Jefferson already has "too much press" about him. It is about time Texas textbooks spoke of the volume of American founders and not just teach Jefferson, MLK and Ernesto "Che" Guevara.

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-22   17:37:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: redleghunter (#81)

Read his letter.

I read the link you pasted:

#59. To: VxH, GarySpFc, liberator (#57)

Founders religion

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-22   0:39:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Which said:

Benjamin Franklin

Pennsylvania

Episcopalian (Deist)

Was it wrong?

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   17:38:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: redleghunter (#82) (Edited)

Jefferson already has "too much press" about him.

In your Fallible and Uninspired opinion.

uhuh.

I never gave Jefferson much thought until I visited his memorial when in DC for 9/12.

I found in his writings, carved in stone on the walls of his memorial, a kindred spirit in defiance of parrots who assert the world is 5000 years old and that anybody who observes otherwise can't possibly be part of THEIR body of Christ.

How much do you charge when you preen those vestigial Roman feathers in the pulpit?

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   17:42:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: VxH, liberator, A K A Stone, GarySpFc (#40)

Ex 32:4-8

Let's back up to Exodus 20:

2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

Sounds familiar.

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-22   17:45:53 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: redleghunter (#85)

Let's back up to Exodus 20:

Nah, let's back up the link you pulled out of your Fallible and Uninspired arse:

 

#59. To: VxH, GarySpFc, liberator (#57)

Founders religion

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-22   0:39:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Which said:

Benjamin Franklin

Pennsylvania

Episcopalian (Deist)

Was it wrong?

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   17:47:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: VxH, liberator, A K A Stone, GarySpFc (#55)

That is what is self-evident to me, as is the path which might've led folks like Franklin, Jefferson, Washington, Paine, and others to reject the organized religious subjugation of their youth; subjugation manufactured by the state-established owners from whom they intended to extract themselves and their progeny. Evidently it was a process that led them to toss the Trinitarian baby out along with the state-established bath/Ba'al water.

By the Grace of God, I've found no reason to reject the Trinity and embrace their Unitarian solution. I have no quarrel with Individuals who embrace such a faith for themselves.

Articulation. A sincere thank you.

You have professed a Trinitarian belief above. One which Jefferson and Franklin would not agree with.

They denied the Deity of Christ. Seems you do not.

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-22   17:51:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: redleghunter (#85)

 
 
 
It's pretty obvious you Zionist WallTards not only hate the man in that memorial - but also the IDEAS that you can't erase HIS association with. As long as those ideas remain SECURED - your ilk can't raise yourSELVES up atop the state-established Appokeelyptic dung heap you cling to like flies on Ba'al manure.
 
 
 
 

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   17:54:58 ET  (5 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: VxH (#83)

Was it wrong?

Deist is in parentheses. Episcopalians are not doctrinally deists. So the site uses both as Franklin never confirmed a specific church.

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-22   18:16:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: VxH (#84)

Well LOL your moment of clarity has ended.

Try not to pick and choose what is convenient from scriptures to serve your purposes. That's the real Baal Shite way.

No feathers here. I can get some for your spontaneous gamete peacock shawl.

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-22   18:21:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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