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Title: Children raised by gay couples thank Dolce & Gabbana for supporting traditional marriage amidst Elton John’s boycott
Source: Life Site News
URL Source: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/c ... edium=email&utm_term=0_0caba61
Published: Mar 20, 2015
Author: Thaddeus Baklinski
Post Date: 2015-03-20 23:35:25 by redleghunter
Keywords: None
Views: 42140
Comments: 187

March 20, 2015 (LifeSiteNews) - Six Americans raised by homosexual parents sent a letter of support thanking openly gay fashion legends Domenico Dolce and Stefano Gabbana for their recent remarks defending the traditional family.

Gay activists, spearheaded by singer Elton John, have condemned the pair and urged a boycott of their fashion line after they told the Italian magazine Panorama that they oppose gay “marriage” and adoption, find in vitro fertilization unnatural, believe procreation “must be an act of love,” and that “the only family is the traditional one.”

The letter, published in Tempi this week, says the six signatories – five women and one man – "want to thank you for giving voice to something that we learned by experience: Every human being has a mother and a father, and to cut either from a child’s life is to rob the child of dignity, humanity, and equality."

"We know that you will come under tremendous pressure, especially now when both Italy and the United States are being pushed to override our concerns for our rights to a mom and dad, in order to please a powerful gay lobby," the group said.

They explained that it was their experience that, "Nobody receives more vicious attacks from the lobby than those who come from the gay community and question its policies: children of gay couples just as much as the gay men who defend them (like the two of you).

"You have shown yourselves to be extremely brave. You have given us great inspiration as all six of us prepare to submit letters to the US Supreme Court against gay marriage."

"We want to praise your courage and thank you for your inspiration," the signatories said, and implored Dolce and Gabbana "not to surrender when the backlash grows in intensity."

"If you back down from what you said and apologize," the group concluded, "it will leave the children of gay homes even more vulnerable and discredited. It is important for our sake, for the sake of Italian children as well, that you not apologize or capitulate. Please support the idea that all children need to be bonded with their mothers and fathers. It is a human right."

"It's not us who invented the family," Dolce said in the recent interview in Italy’s Panorama magazine. "You are born and you have a mother and a father.

"Or at least it should be so, that's why I'm skeptical about what I call the sons of the chemistry, synthetic children, wombs for rent, seeds chosen by a catalog. And then, let's go to these children and explain them who is their mother. Would you ever accept to be a daughter of the chemistry? Procreation needs to be an act of love."

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#115. To: redleghunter (#112) (Edited)

God is Sovereign.

Yeah that's what your religiously petrified state-establishing brethren in ISIS assert too when they're raping the Yezidi "devil" worshippers.

Idiots all.

NO SALE.

VxH  posted on  2015-03-23   13:07:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: VxH (#108)

So basically you are saying. You don't have a right to live. Got ya.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-23   13:07:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: redleghunter (#112)

Do you believe that VxH has anything to offer those of us who seek the truth.

I'm beginning to wonder if I should pull up the welcome mat.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-23   13:09:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: A K A Stone (#116)

So basically you are saying. You don't have a right to live. Got ya.

Do Americans have the right to pursue the Truth sans state-established coercion?

VxH  posted on  2015-03-23   13:09:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: VxH (#118)

Do Americans have the right to pursue the Truth

Of course they do.

But you don't have a right to peddle fabrications here.

You're permitted to do that for shits and giggles at the moment.

But you are starting to bore me, and others I'm sure.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-23   13:10:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: VxH (#111)

Have they figured out the only reason they have a penis and scrotum is because of the effects of Androgen hormones?

They fully understand procreation and all it's phases. To be an effective future breeder of cattle this knowledge is a must at a young age in FFA.

They know that when a sow gives birth the litter will have a certain percentage of male/female ratio.

This is not hard really.

How this confirms evolution over creation has no bearing. In fact, such an act shows more divine intervention than chance.

But you are way off. At conception the sex of the embryo is determined. The sperm cell either has an X or Y chromosome. About 4 months later (humans) the sexual organs under go sexual differentiation based on the XX or XY sequence.

You are looking for more than there is to this complex, yet clear chain of events.

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-23   13:14:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: A K A Stone (#119) (Edited)

But you don't have a right to peddle fabrications here.

"Male and female sex organs develop from the same tissue. Whether this tissue becomes male organs or female organs depends on the chromosomes and the presence or absence of male hormones.

In males, a region on the Y chromosome triggers the development of testicles, which produce male hormones. Male genitals develop in response to male hormones from the fetal testicles. In a fetus without a Y chromosome — without the effects of male hormones — the genitals develop as female."

www.mayoclinic.org/diseas...asics/causes/con-20026345

 

 


without the effects of male hormones — the genitals develop as female.

 

Is that a fabrication? 

IIRC it was a biological FACT being taught in an Animal Behavior course at the LCMS' Concordia Seward facility circa 1983. 

VxH  posted on  2015-03-23   13:14:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: VxH (#121)

Is that a fabrication?

Probably not. That is not what I am talking about though. I'm talking about trolling peoples faith.

Your points about some therapy changing the sex or appearing to change the sex. Doesn't matter concerning if God created us or not.

You can always play mad scientist and screw with people.

Your point is irrelevant to the discussion.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-23   13:18:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: VxH (#111)

Male and female sex organs develop from the same tissue. Whether this tissue becomes male organs or female organs depends on the chromosomes and the presence or absence of male hormones.

Ok Mr. Science tell me which chromosome sequence produces the hormones for male genitals?

That would be the XY at conception. The XX, also, later produce the female hormones.

You are hung up on birth defects in utero. It happens and those who are born with them must have our compassion and care.

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-23   13:19:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: VxH, A K A Stone (#114)

Are your offspring aware that they'd have female appearing genitalia if it weren't for the effects of Androgen hormones?

LOL. If both my sons had XX chromosomes at conception they would be girls. Welcome to procreation 101.

You are starting to convince me sex education needs to be in public schools.

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-23   13:21:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: VxH (#115)

God is Sovereign.

And here you professed belief in the Christ of the Bible being truly God and truly Man.

If the above is not the sovereign design of God, then what is your view?

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-23   13:22:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: redleghunter (#120)

About 4 months later (humans) the sexual organs under go sexual differentiation based on the XX or XY sequence.

And yet without Androgen, or with Insensitivity to Androgen - the genitalia don't undergo that differentiation, do they.

Thus, XY individuals afflicted with Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome present an external FEMALE appearance.

For Example:

Woman born with no womb gives birth to miracle twins

Hayley Haynes, who was born with no reproductive organs, has given birth to twins after specialist treatment to grow a womb

She said she had no idea she was different when she was growing up but began to grow concerned when she had not started her periods by the age of 19, despite going through other signs of puberty.

Following months of hospital trips and blood tests, specialists told her she had been born with XY chromosomes, meaning she was genetically male. She had no reproductive organs thanks to a condition called androgen insensitivity syndrome.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/11381463/Woman-born-with-no-womb-gives-birth-to-miracle-twins.html

VxH  posted on  2015-03-23   13:24:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: A K A Stone, VxH (#117)

Do you believe that VxH has anything to offer those of us who seek the truth.

I'm beginning to wonder if I should pull up the welcome mat.

He had a moment of clarity yesterday. Took three years but it happened. Stoke the fires and the wormwood and maybe we will get more:)

I have no problem helping grown men learn about basic procreation (sex ed). We might get a few more kiddos born to this country if we do; instead of people discarding them.

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-23   13:25:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: VxH, redleghunter (#114)

I have a Truth fetish.

Is it true that in your alleged mind, Thomas Jefferson's pseudonym is "God"?

You seem to have an unhealthy obsession for worshiping false idols and necromancy.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-23   13:27:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: redleghunter (#124)

If both my sons had XX chromosomes at conception they would be girls. Welcome to procreation 101.

If they were XY and either produced no androgen hormones or were Androgen Insensitive -- what would they APPEAR to be?

VxH  posted on  2015-03-23   13:27:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: redleghunter (#125)

then what is your view?

My view is I'm an infidel who enjoys America's protections against state-established religious coercion.

VxH  posted on  2015-03-23   13:30:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: VxH (#115)

God is Sovereign.

Yeah that's what your religiously petrified state-establishing brethren in ISIS assert too when they're raping the Yezidi "devil" worshippers.

So now you claim those who worship the God of Abraham are worshiping the same "god" as Muslims -- Allah, the satanic Moon God?

Pick up your garbage can and medication, get up, and head straight to the nurses office. (We'll call an ambulance, Mommy and Daddy AND your psychiatrist.)

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-23   13:31:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: VxH, liberator, A K A Stone (#126)

And yet without Androgen, or with Insensitivity to Androgen - the genitalia don't undergo that differentiation, do they.

A birth defect. A test for us to be compassionate, kind and supportive.

Has bunk to do with evolution vs. creation.

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-23   13:32:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: VxH, redleghunter, A K A Stone (#130)

My view is I'm an infidel who enjoys America's protections against state-established religious coercion.

You're an "Infidel" alright -- you believe in everything but nothing. Upthread you stated you believed in the Trinity, downthread you backed out.

Secondly, let's see you try and prove your claim that you've been coerced by ANY established religion.

GO, POLLY!

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-23   13:34:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: A K A Stone (#122)

Doesn't matter concerning if God created us or not.

It matters to those interested in the nature of how He created us.

And it matters when "pastors" assert that the individuals within their purview can't possibly be a member of "their" body of Christs if those individuals recognize certain self-evident natural truths that conflict with the "pastor"'s "the world is only 6000 years old" interpretation of Creation.

VxH  posted on  2015-03-23   13:36:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: VxH (#129)

If they were XY and either produced no androgen hormones or were Androgen Insensitive -- what would they APPEAR to be?

Wow. Only in rare cases this happens. It is called a birth defect.

XY produces the necessary hormones to produce male genitals. That's how it works. Sometimes in this imperfect and fallen world it does not happen.

How that determines your claim evolution is proved by this is not clear at all.

But no the hormone does not determine the gender of the baby. That happens at conception. Then the XY or XX chromosome then determines the hormone for development.

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-23   13:39:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: redleghunter, VxH, A K A Stone (#132)

Has bunk to do with evolution vs. creation.

Of course not, but then I was reminded, "coke's a heluva drug" ~ Rick James

Meanwhile, I'm still laughing at this gem:

"And yet his [Adam's] sons, and their sons, and etc... had genitalia that only present themselves with male form in the presence of Androgen hormones.

Otherwise, they'd have been born as female appearing... wait for it... EUNUCHS."

VxH  posted on  2015-03-23   12:56:19 ET

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-23   13:39:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: VxH, liberator, A K A Stone (#130)

My view is I'm an infidel who enjoys America's protections against state-established religious coercion

I agree. Then you should be railing against the US established religion of secular humanistic atheism. That is the established 'church' in the US today.

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-23   13:40:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: redleghunter (#132)

A birth defect.

"without the effects of male hormones — the genitals develop as female."

www.mayoclinic.org/diseas...asics/causes/con-20026345


That's not a birth defect, it's a biological human reproductive FACT.

VxH  posted on  2015-03-23   13:41:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: redleghunter (#137)

Then you should be railing against the US established religion of secular humanistic atheism.

Been there, railed against that.

"EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN"

VxH  posted on  2015-03-23   13:43:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: Liberator, Vicomte13 (#136)

Otherwise, they'd have been born as female appearing... wait for it... EUNUCHS."

Yes there is a eunuch fetish presented. Poor Vic used to be the sole "temple eunuch" target. Now horizons are expanding:)

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-23   13:43:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: VxH, redleghunter, A K A Stone (#102)

VxH: "So did Adam have female genitals before or after your myth formed him out of the mud?"

Bring back the clown car, the circus elephants -- the one man band is BACK!!

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-23   13:45:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: redleghunter, VxH (#137)

You should be railing against the US established religion of secular humanistic atheism. That is the established 'church' in the US today.

BULLSEYE.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-23   13:46:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: redleghunter (#140) (Edited)

Yes there is a eunuch fetish presented.

What sort of fetish was presented by the worshipers who frequented the services held in the Delphic district?

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"Sacred Prostitutes"


"Woman at the Window," often interpreted as a prostitute, sacred or not, soliciting clients, but actually, in all likelihood, the Mesopotamian goddess Kilili, an associate or aspect of Inanna/Ishtar. One of many such ivory inlays of the same motif found in Mesopotamia, but probably made in Phoenicia/Canaan. Dated about 900 BCE. © S. Beaulieu, after Shepsut 1993:115.

An "improbable percentage of the population [of Mesopotamia and Syria-Canaan] must have been either secular or religious prostitutes of some sort," wrote Beatrice Brooks in 1941 (231). She was drawing conclusions from the writings of predominantly male scholars who accepted without question the concept of "sacred, cult, or temple prostitutes." Female temple functionaries, they maintained, regularly engaged in sexual intercourse in return for a payment to their temples. Female devotees of Inanna/Ishtar, the Mesopotamian goddess of sexuality and love, were "immediately" suspect of such behavior (Assante 1998:6). Until recently, most scholars took this view for granted, and some still do.

http://www.matrifocus.com/SAM05/spotlight.htm

 

VxH  posted on  2015-03-23   13:47:35 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: redleghunter, Vicomte13 (#140) (Edited)

Yes there is a eunuch fetish presented. Poor Vic used to be the sole "temple eunuch" target. Now horizons are expanding:)

Yeah, remember that?

(I am a "temple eunuch"...er I mean, Spartacus!)

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-23   13:49:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: VxH, liberator, A K A Stone (#138)

without the effects of male hormones — the genitals develop as female."

www.mayoclinic.org/diseas...asics/causes/con-20026345

That's not a birth defect, it's a biological human reproductive FACT.

Only if you see the goal of procreation is to produce eunuchs. It is not. The goal from conception is either XX or XY. What happens after that is either a normal developmental process or a defect is introduced in gestation.

"'God made them male and female' from the beginning of creation"--Jesus Christ

And Jesus said:

"“The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me, Because He has anointed Me To preach the gospel to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives And recovery of sight to the blind, To set at liberty those who are oppressed; To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord.”(Luke chapter 4)

Believe me...I know something about babies being born not 'perfect' babies. The struggles and surgeries the child endures and then see them overcome what was a 'defect' to be the fastest and strongest in their age group. Batting average is pretty good and what a glove!

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-23   13:53:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: VxH (#139)

Been there, railed against that.

Not quite with as much vigor, vinegar, and heap of insanity.

Truth is, you're a necromantic of Thomas Jefferson's bones who worships false idols and a false religion. And you mock the Lord...

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-23   13:53:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: Liberator (#144) (Edited)

(I am a "temple eunuch"...er I mean, Spartacus!)

Spartacus and his wife were both free before the Roman state-establishment enslaved them.

How did that turn out again?

VxH  posted on  2015-03-23   13:55:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: redleghunter (#145) (Edited)

Only if you see the goal of procreation is to produce eunuchs. It is not.

 

"without the effects of male hormones — the genitals develop as female."

www.mayoclinic.org/diseas...asics/causes/con-20026345


Your religious / human manufactured opinions regarding the "goals" of nature are irrelevant to nature.  Just as water freezes at 32 degrees so too the fact that, without the effects of androgen hormones, human genitals develop as female - is self-evident, and stands regardless of opinion to the contrary.

What "sex" constitutes majority of individuals in a healthy bee hive?  

What a surprise (NOT) that the temple whores of Delphi chose the bee to represent them.



VxH  posted on  2015-03-23   14:06:33 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: Liberator (#146) (Edited)

Truth is, you're a necromantic of Thomas Jefferson's bones who worships false idols and a false religion.

Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor. It's not Jefferson's bones that have captured my attention - but the Ideas he was used to convey, that somebody took the time to write in stone.

And you mock the Lord...

No Domina, I mock the human religiously concocted created things, and their state-established Temple-perching caeSARean creators, who would assume dominion over my relationship to Him.

VxH  posted on  2015-03-23   14:18:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: VxH, liberator, A K A Stone, Vicomte13 (#148)

What "sex" constitutes majority of individuals in a healthy bee hive?

What a surprise (NOT) that the temple whores of Delphi chose the bee to represent them.

You must be a hoot at weddings and Barmitzvahs.

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-23   14:53:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: redleghunter (#150) (Edited)

You must be a hoot at weddings and Barmitzvahs.

More of a Bzzzzzzz than a hoot.

VxH  posted on  2015-03-23   16:06:54 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: VxH (#130)

My view is I'm an infidel who enjoys America's protections against state-established religious coercion.

And yet you have this very strange need to get in people's faces over religious views they have.

Why is that? Why is this strange need of yours so virulent and what caused this? Were you an alter boy who was given 'special attention' by the priest?

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-03-23   17:10:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: Dead Culture Watch, VxH, releghunter, A K A Stone (#152)

And yet you have this very strange need to get in people's faces over religious views they have.

Why is that? Why is this strange need of yours so virulent and what caused this? Were you an alter boy who was given 'special attention' by the priest?

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-23   17:14:44 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: VxH (#149) (Edited)

It's not Jefferson's bones that have captured my attention - but the Ideas he was used to convey, that somebody took the time to write in stone.

You mean your spamming of threads with post after post of words (prayers) and stone monuments (idols) dedicated to and attributed Jefferson (your god) are NOT acts of worship?

Tsk. Our God is a jealous God.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-23   17:20:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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