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Title: Children raised by gay couples thank Dolce & Gabbana for supporting traditional marriage amidst Elton John’s boycott
Source: Life Site News
URL Source: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/c ... edium=email&utm_term=0_0caba61
Published: Mar 20, 2015
Author: Thaddeus Baklinski
Post Date: 2015-03-20 23:35:25 by redleghunter
Keywords: None
Views: 41967
Comments: 187

March 20, 2015 (LifeSiteNews) - Six Americans raised by homosexual parents sent a letter of support thanking openly gay fashion legends Domenico Dolce and Stefano Gabbana for their recent remarks defending the traditional family.

Gay activists, spearheaded by singer Elton John, have condemned the pair and urged a boycott of their fashion line after they told the Italian magazine Panorama that they oppose gay “marriage” and adoption, find in vitro fertilization unnatural, believe procreation “must be an act of love,” and that “the only family is the traditional one.”

The letter, published in Tempi this week, says the six signatories – five women and one man – "want to thank you for giving voice to something that we learned by experience: Every human being has a mother and a father, and to cut either from a child’s life is to rob the child of dignity, humanity, and equality."

"We know that you will come under tremendous pressure, especially now when both Italy and the United States are being pushed to override our concerns for our rights to a mom and dad, in order to please a powerful gay lobby," the group said.

They explained that it was their experience that, "Nobody receives more vicious attacks from the lobby than those who come from the gay community and question its policies: children of gay couples just as much as the gay men who defend them (like the two of you).

"You have shown yourselves to be extremely brave. You have given us great inspiration as all six of us prepare to submit letters to the US Supreme Court against gay marriage."

"We want to praise your courage and thank you for your inspiration," the signatories said, and implored Dolce and Gabbana "not to surrender when the backlash grows in intensity."

"If you back down from what you said and apologize," the group concluded, "it will leave the children of gay homes even more vulnerable and discredited. It is important for our sake, for the sake of Italian children as well, that you not apologize or capitulate. Please support the idea that all children need to be bonded with their mothers and fathers. It is a human right."

"It's not us who invented the family," Dolce said in the recent interview in Italy’s Panorama magazine. "You are born and you have a mother and a father.

"Or at least it should be so, that's why I'm skeptical about what I call the sons of the chemistry, synthetic children, wombs for rent, seeds chosen by a catalog. And then, let's go to these children and explain them who is their mother. Would you ever accept to be a daughter of the chemistry? Procreation needs to be an act of love."

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#27. To: A K A Stone (#25) (Edited)

If they teach contrary to the Bible then they aren't Bible followers now are they?

If you ask the parrots in their rainbow pulpits they'll all swear up and down they're "Bible followers".

Such has always been the nature of the organized religious farce; and that nature is no different today than when Romans 1:25+ was written.

It was that nature about which America's founders observed: "FALLIBLE AND UNINSPIRED MEN HAVE ASSUMED DOMINION OVER THE FAITH OF OTHERS"

Same ol' temporal Ba'alshyte, different municipal toilet.

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   0:21:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: VxH (#27)

If you ask the parrots in their rainbow pulpits they'll all swear up and down they're "Bible followers".

Oj swears up and down he didn't kill Nicole.

That is how relevant your comment is.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-22   11:27:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: VxH (#27)

Such has always been the nature of the organized religious farce

People who use the phrase organized religion to attack it are shallow morons.

Would you have it that God disn't reveal himself to us and we all just make up what our own beliefs.

God revealing himself to man is a good thing. That people wrote it down so we know the truth is a good thing.

There will always be liars who will use any religion to advance their evil purposes. That would be unorganized religion as they are not following the book to the letter.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-22   11:29:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: VxH (#27)

"FALLIBLE AND UNINSPIRED MEN HAVE ASSUMED DOMINION OVER THE FAITH OF OTHERS"

If you don't put your faith in Jesus. Then your faith is in cow shit. To put it another way, If your faith is not in Jesus your faith is inferior to mine, and I in no way respect it, in fact I spit on it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-22   11:31:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone, VxH (#30)

If your faith is not in Jesus your faith is inferior to mine, and I in no way respect it, in fact I spit on it.

VxH worships at the altar of...TOM JEFFERSON.

(how messed up is that??)

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-22   11:33:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Liberator (#31)

VxH worships at the altar of...TOM JEFFERSON.

I think Thomas Jefferson was a remarkable man. He did many great things for this nation. But he isn't God.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-22   11:36:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: VxH, A K A Stone, redleghunter (#19)

"America's Deist founders...."

HA!! "Deist"?? (Are you pulling a Keith Richards and snorting Thomas Jefferson's urn ashes again??)

You've been schooled in the past and now in the present on exactly the identity of the vast majority of important, noted Founders -- as well as their respective belief: denominational CHRISTIAN. In the Year of Our Lord, 1787, the overwhelming majority of Americans were indeed....denominational CHRISTIAN. Not "Deist." Not even close to "Deist."

Red has provided the demos of all the signers of the various docs, yet you obsess on worshiping as your "god," Tom Jefferson, Franklin, and the couple other Deist stragglers.

Clown.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-22   11:43:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: A K A Stone (#32)

But he isn't God.

No, he isn't. Neither were Paine, Franklin, Washington or the other Deists who rejected their former Eurotrash owner's oligarchic sheeple herding/enslaving machinery.

Should it not be disturbing that so many would so readily cast Jefferson out of American history in the process of reforming and perverting it into their own Fallible and Uninspired caesarean oligarchic state-established Zionist image?

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   11:49:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: A K A Stone, redleghunter, VxH (#32) (Edited)

I think Thomas Jefferson was a remarkable man. He did many great things for this nation. But he isn't God.

No one takes away anything from TJ's intellect and accomplishments. But no, NOT a "god," NOT a "revolutionary" (as parroted by TJ Kneepad VxH), and most certainly only one of several driving forces behind the establishment of the new American Republic.

Those who financed, organized, provided tactics, and fought for Independence were vastly and overwhelmingly...CHRISTIAN.

VxH is a shameless revisionist historian who spits in the eye of the actual American Founders as well as that of Jesus Christ.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-22   11:49:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Liberator (#33)

Clown.

Sun-parrot Slave.

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   11:50:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: VxH (#34)

Should it not be disturbing that so many would so readily cast Jefferson out of American history...

Now you're just a pathetic, lying, revisionist clown.

Who is your God v 2.0? Alinsky??

"...state-established Zionist image"

Aaaah, a Joo-hater? Or just a hater of "Joo," Jesus Christ? His Apostles?

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-22   11:53:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Liberator (#35)

Franklin formulated a presentation of his beliefs and published it in 1728.[121] It did not mention many of the Puritan ideas as regards belief in salvation, the divinity of Jesus, and indeed most religious dogma. He clarified himself as a deist in his 1771 autobiography,[122]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin

The record of his taking communion was spotty.[16] Ministers at four of the churches Washington often attended wrote that he regularly left services before communion. When Rev. Dr. James Abercrombie, rector of St. Peter's Episcopal Church, in Philadelphia, mentioned in a weekly sermon that those in elevated stations set an unhappy example by leaving at communion, Washington completely stopped attending that church on communion Sundays.[17][18] Long after Washington died, when asked about Washington's beliefs, Abercrombie replied: "Sir, Washington was a Deist!"[19][unreliable source?] Nonetheless, it was also not uncommon in those days for churchgoers to pass on participating in communion.[9]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington_and_religion

While Paine never described himself as a deist,[82] he did write the following:

The opinions I have advanced ... are the effect of the most clear and long-established conviction that the Bible and the Testament are impositions upon the world, that the fall of man, the account of Jesus Christ being the Son of God, and of his dying to appease the wrath of God, and of salvation, by that strange means, are all fabulous inventions, dishonorable to the wisdom and power of the Almighty; that the only true religion is Deism, by which I then meant, and mean now, the belief of one God, and an imitation of his moral character, or the practice of what are called moral virtues – and that it was upon this only (so far as religion is concerned) that I rested all my hopes of happiness hereafter. So say I now – and so help me God.[79]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Paine

Jefferson's Deism was noted on the document you  yourself linked. 

Thomas JeffersonVirginiaEpiscopalian (Deist)
Benjamin FranklinPennsylvaniaEpiscopalian (Deist)

But then, disingenuous parrots of your ilk have already demonstrated your disregard for historical accuracy by attempting to exclude Thomas Jefferson from the circle of revolutionarily influential philosophers.

Cynthia Dunbar, a lawyer from Richmond who is a strict constitutionalist and thinks the nation was founded on Christian beliefs, managed to cut Thomas Jefferson from a list of figures whose writings inspired revolutions in the late 18th century and 19th century, replacing him with St. Thomas Aquinas, John Calvin and William Blackstone. (Jefferson is not well liked among conservatives on the board because he coined the term “separation between church and state.”)

“The Enlightenment was not the only philosophy on which these revolutions were based,” Ms. Dunbar said.

http://www.texastribune.org/2010/03/22/sboe-removes-thomas-jefferson-blames-media/


The drafter of the American Declaration of Independence didn't inspire any revolutions?

LOL.  That'd be funny if it wasn't so religiously pathetic.

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   11:53:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: VxH (#38)

The Spam-Riddler strikes again!

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-22   11:56:14 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Liberator (#37) (Edited)

Aaaah, a Joo-hater? Or just a hater of "Joo," Jesus Christ? His Apostles?

Tell us Mr. Fallible and Uninspired Biblical "liberator" - how many times did the Creator exile the Zionists into slavery and subjugation by their enemies in response to their Ba'al worship? Here's one example:

Ex 32:4-8

4 And he received them at their hand, and fashioned it with a graving tool, after he had made it a molten calf: and they said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.

5 And when Aaron saw it, he built an altar before it; and Aaron made proclamation, and said, To morrow is a feast to the Lord.

6 And they rose up early on the morrow, and offered burnt offerings, and brought peace offerings; and the people sat down to eat and to drink, and rose up to play.

7 And the Lord said unto Moses, Go, get thee down; for thy people, which thou broughtest out of the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves:

8 They have turned aside quickly out of the way which I commanded them: they have made them a molten calf, and have worshipped it, and have sacrificed thereunto, and said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which have brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.
KJV


VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   11:58:13 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Liberator (#39)

Ever watch Gotham? This is the new joker when he was younger.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-22   11:58:53 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Liberator, redleghunter (#39)

Why don't you and RedLegDribbler tell the class again how Franklin, Jefferson, and Paine weren't deists?

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   12:01:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: VxH (#38)

The drafter of the American Declaration of Independence didn't inspire any revolutions?

Jefferson was one of MANY "inspirational" Founders.It is absolutely remarkably comical that in your pedestrian microscopic mind that the other Founders knelt before Thomas Jefferson.

The truth was that our Founders were movers and shakers in their own right. Educate and do the research yourself.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-22   12:01:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: VxH (#40)

Post Comment Please cut and paste the portion of the text to which you are replying, if any, into the "Quote" box using your computer's editing features. On 2015-03-22 11:58:13, VxH wrote:

To: Liberator Aaaah, a Joo-hater? Or just a hater of "Joo," Jesus Christ? His Apostles? Tell us Mr. Fallible and Uninspired Biblical "liberator" - how many times did the Creator exile the Zionists into slavery and subjugation by their enemies for the Ba'al worship? Here's one example:

Ex 32:4-8

4 And he received them at their hand, and fashioned it with a graving tool, after he had made it a molten calf: and they said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.

5 And when Aaron saw it, he built an altar before it; and Aaron made proclamation, and said, To morrow is a feast to the Lord.

6 And they rose up early on the morrow, and offered burnt offerings, and brought peace offerings; and the people sat down to eat and to drink, and rose up to play.

7 And the Lord said unto Moses, Go, get thee down; for thy people, which thou broughtest out of the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves:

8 They have turned aside quickly out of the way which I commanded them: they have made them a molten calf, and have worshipped it, and have sacrificed thereunto, and said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which have brought thee up out of the land of Egypt. KJV

You quoted something worth reading.

Yes the Israelis are sinners too. We all do things wrong. Thank God there is redemption and forgiveness.

Also I would like to apologize for threatening to ban you for talking in riddles.

I was just frustrated because I wanted you to make your point instead of taling in riddles.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-22   12:02:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: A K A Stone (#41)

Naaah, never watched any of the Batman series. Didn't even watch the Tee-Bee version.

I was a Superman guy.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-22   12:02:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Liberator (#43) (Edited)

Jefferson was one of MANY "inspirational" Founders.

And yet he was the ONLY one singled out by WallTardian dipshits like you when they reformed the Texas skewel curriculum.

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   12:03:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: A K A Stone (#44)

Also I would like to apologize for threatening to ban you for talking in riddles

Thank you. I don't intend to pose "riddles" - but rather to ask questions that will provoke thought in free minds.

An unanswered question burns longer and deeper. I always appreciated teachers who inspired their students to question and seek - more than those who simply used their tenure as a position of Authoritah from which to inflict their opinions upon others.

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   12:08:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: VxH (#40)

Tell us Mr. Fallible and Uninspired Biblical "liberator" - how many times did the Creator exile the Zionists into slavery and subjugation by their enemies in response to their Ba'al worship?

Which again has WHAT to do with the American Founders??

Which again has WHAT to do with the promised Redeemer of Scripture? (oh wait -- you and Tommy Jefferson don't believe in Jesus Christ and His Miracles OR Salvation. GOT IT.)

All you have is your own silly uber-obsessed tangent, kneeling at Thomas Jefferson's altars in Washington, DC. at every other post, and the steadfast absurd denial of an American nation established by an overwhelming number of Christian denominations.

(but go ahead and quote Wiki again.) Gnat-brain.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-22   12:09:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: VxH (#46)

Based on misquotes, out of context letter to the Danbury Baptists, and....secular humanist propaganda.

Toolbag.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-22   12:10:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: A K A Stone (#44) (Edited)

I wanted you to make your point instead of taling in riddles.

Good luck with that.

We'll only see the spamming of Jeffersonian quotes, altars and memorials another gazillion times.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-22   12:12:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Liberator (#49)

Why don't you and RedLegDribbler (or one of the other Waltardian dipshits in the peanut gallery) tell the class again how Franklin, Jefferson, and Paine weren't deists?

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   12:13:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: VxH (#38)

Long after Washington died, when asked about Washington's beliefs, Abercrombie replied: "Sir, Washington was a Deist!" [19][unreliable source?]

Thanks for the "unreliable source."

Thomas Jefferson Virginia Episcopalian (Deist)
Benjamin Franklin Pennsylvania

WOW! What an extensive list of Deists!!

FAIL.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-22   12:15:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: VxH, releghunter (#51)

You're putting on quite a clinic of Epic Fails. (careful you don't trip over your clown-shoes and fall on your alleged brain another hundred times. )

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-22   12:18:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: VxH (#17)

Title: Children raised by gay couples thank Dolce & Gabbana for supporting traditional marriage amidst Elton John’s boycott

VxH analysis:

"Well, that's organized religion for ya."

Gee, thanks for the focus and staying on topic as usual....You have an extraordinary attention span.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-22   12:23:12 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: A K A Stone (#44) (Edited)

Thank God there is redemption and forgiveness.

It is my Deistic observation that a Creator exists, and has existed, beyond temporal space and time. I observe that I am an Individual bound within the laws of the temporal universe -and am thus eternally and infinitely separated from an entity not so bound.

Resolving that separation is the sacrificial role of the temporal (in the space and time sense) personification of that Creator - the Son, Jesus Christ.

Mediating between temporal and non-temporal is the role of the third person of the Trinity: the Holy Spirit.

That is what is self-evident to me, as is the path which might've led folks like Franklin, Jefferson, Washington, Paine, and others to reject the organized religious subjugation of their youth; subjugation manufactured by the state-established owners from whom they intended to extract themselves and their progeny. Evidently it was a process that led them to toss the Trinitarian baby out along with the state-established bath/Ba'al water.

By the Grace of God, I've found no reason to reject the Trinity and embrace their Unitarian solution. I have no quarrel with Individuals who embrace such a faith for themselves.

But, when organized religious herd-goons aspire toward nothing more than to inflict their Fallible and Uninspired opinions upon those within their purview, well --- "I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF GOD ETERNAL HOSTILITY TO EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN" -- Jefferson's American response to ~that, seems completely reasonable.

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   12:43:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Liberator (#52) (Edited)

Why don't you and RedLegDribbler (or one of the other Walltardian dipshits in the peanut gallery) tell the class again how Franklin, Jefferson, and Paine weren't deists?

What's the seating capacity of the building located exactly 1 mile North of the White Hut, and 2 miles North of the Jefferson Memorial? Must've been expensive. I wonder who paid for it.

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   12:44:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: A K A Stone (#29) (Edited)

and we all just make up what our own beliefs.

Like the Mormons did?

Like the Muslims did?

Like the Scientologists did?

Are they not each and every one of them an (organized) TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN?

Water freezes at 32 degrees regardless of my belief.

The order of the Creator is manifested, and revealed, throughout nature -- but whether it's Lucifer or Nebuchadnezzar that's identified in Isaiah 14 by his heinous King James, not so much.

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   13:00:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: VxH (#57)

and we all just make up what our own beliefs. Like the Mormons did?

Like the Muslims did?

Like the Scientologists did?

Those are good exampleso of made up pretend religions.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-22   13:05:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: VxH (#57)

but whether it's Lucifer or Nebuchadnezzar that's identified in Isaiah 14 by his heinous King James, not so much.

There go your riddles again.

Problem is I know where you are going with them.

The King James Bible doesn't make out God to be Lucifer or Nebuchadnezzar to be Lucifer etc. You have a misunderstanding. You took took that wrong belief. Now you make decisions based on your false belief. That then causes you to argue and try to make points that have no basis in reality.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-22   13:07:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: A K A Stone (#58)

Those are good exampleso of made up pretend religions.

Are they organized? Is the tyranny they inflict upon those within their purview corporately organized?

Meanwhile, the self-evidence of natural order exists for comprehension by Individuals from "ALMIGHTY GOD HATH CREATED THE MIND FREE".

To America's founders - the perception of that natural order and the happiness rendered in so doing was an inalienable right.

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   13:10:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: VxH (#60)

Those are good exampleso of made up pretend religions. Are they organized?

They are actually kind of unorganized. As they contain many inconsistencies and contradictions. Unlike the Holy Bible.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-22   13:11:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: VxH (#60)

Meanwhile, the self-evidence of natural order exists

Is it self evident to you that man didn't evolve? That it takes a male and a female to reproduce. Thus requiring a special creation event.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-22   13:12:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: A K A Stone (#59)

The King James Bible doesn't make out God to be Lucifer or Nebuchadnezzar to be Lucifer etc.

King James is the only version that substitutes Lucifer in place of NebuchadnezZAR.

That's understandable, given that King Jimuh himself was nothing more than a sun-prince propped up atop a temporal KaiSARean state-establishing fraud.

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   13:13:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: VxH (#63)

King James is the only version that substitutes Lucifer in place of NebuchadnezZAR.

The King James version is a true translation.

You should start a thread on what you believe instead of making accusations and not backing them up with anything.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-22   13:18:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: A K A Stone (#62)

Is it self evident to you that man didn't evolve? That it takes a male and a female to reproduce. Thus requiring a special creation event.

It's self-evident to me that human sexual morphology only manifests male anatomy in response to androgen hormones.

A response that is visibly absent in the vestigial female anatomy of XY Androgen insensitive individuals.
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"Holding their two little miracles at home: The woman born a MAN and told she would never conceive cradles twin girls with her husband Hayley Haynes, 28, was born without a womb, ovaries or fallopian tubes Doctors told her she had XY chromosomes, genetically making her male When she was told she would never conceive it left Hayley feeling 'sick' She had babies Avery and Darcey after IVF treatment using an egg donor Said becoming a mother was the 'single most amazing moment of my life'
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/...eared-no-man-want-me.html

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It's also self-evident that such rare anomalies are exploited by transhumanist/postgenderists whose goal is the perversion of nature in their own image instead of living in harmony with it. Just like they did circa Romans 1:25+

Nonetheless, the fact that human sexual morphology begins with female characteristics raises obvious questions with Biblical creation mythology.

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   13:22:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: A K A Stone (#64) (Edited)

The King James version is a true translation.

Lucifer (/ÈlsjfYr/ LEW-sif-Yr) is the King James Version rendering of the Hebrew word הֵילֵל in Isaiah 14:12. This word, transliterated hêlêl[1] or heylel,[2] occurs only once in the Hebrew Bible[1] and according to the KJV-influenced Strong's Concordance means "shining one, morning star".[2] The word Lucifer is taken from the Latin Vulgate,[3] which translates הֵילֵל as lucifer,[Isa 14:12][4][5] meaning "the morning star, the planet Venus", or, as an adjective, "light-bringing".[6] The Septuagint renders הֵילֵל in Greek as ἑÉÃÆÌÁ¿Â[7][8][9][10][11] (heMsphoros),[12][13][14] a name, literally "bringer of dawn", for the morning star.[15]

Later Christian tradition came to use the Latin word for "morning star", lucifer, as a proper name ("Lucifer") for the Devil; as he was before his fall.[16] As a result, "'Lucifer' has become a by-word for Satan/the Devil in the Church and in popular literature

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However, according to both Christian[19] and Jewish exegesis, in the Book of Isaiah, chapter 14, the King of Babylon, Nebuchadnezzar II, conqueror of Jerusalem, is condemned in a prophetic vision by the prophet Isaiah and is called the "Morning Ha" (planet Venus).[20][21]

 

So Nebuchadnezzar got transforned by popular, Fallible and Uninspired, culture into The Devil.

Oops!

I wonder what the Yezidi (who worship fallen peacock angels) being slaughtered in Northern Iraq because of their "Infidelity" think of that little, religiously organized, snafu?

VxH  posted on  2015-03-22   13:33:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: VxH (#65)

So the deist position is that mud turns into people. Sex isn't required to bring children into the world (Or artificial sex where a guy jerks off and someone in a white jacket implants the semen in a woman.)

The egg came before the chicken.

One piece of grass evolved from the mud. Then it had a seed and there were two blaes of grass. Then the next winter those seeds survived and there were 4 or 6 pieces of grass. Then the seeds survived until the next winter and there were 12 pieces of grass......

Tell me how the sexual organs evolved?

Tell me how the eye evolved.

Tell me how mud created a person with lungs, heart, veins and the whole of a person . Then covered itself in skin. Did the skin evolve first or did the heart. Did he heart not used to be in a body incased by skin. If the skin evolved how did it live without a living breathing person with a heart.

Did the brain evolve first or the heart.

Did there used to be some people not formally formed yet and they had a heart but no brain. Or was it they had a brain but no heart.

How did fingers evolve. And did he have fingers before feet?

Also why aren't we evolving anymore. Why aren 't kangaroos evolving anymore. Why isn't anything evolving anymore.

What came first people or food?

Did the bumbleebee evolve before the flower. Or did the flower evolve first. Since Bees need flowers to survive. They flowers must have come first right. Why does some mud turn into plants and some into animals and some into people.

The first person who had sex. Where did their sperm come from?

Since we came from monkeys. You're probably wondering why it is taboo to fuck a monkey. Hey we came from monkeys we should fuck them right?

What about...

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-22   13:36:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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