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Title: Why You Should Think Twice before Bad-mouthing Obama
Source: Bible Study Tools
URL Source: http://www.biblestudytools.com/blog ... =email&utm_campaign=03/18/2015
Published: Mar 18, 2015
Author: Mark Altrogge
Post Date: 2015-03-18 11:21:41 by redleghunter
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Conservative ex-rocker Ted Nugent recently described President Obama as a “subhuman mongrel.” Later he told Dallas-based talk radio host Ben Ferguson, “I do apologize—not necessarily to the president—but on behalf of much better men than myself.”

PJ O’Rourke said, “Barack Obama is more irritating than the other nuisances on the left,” according to brainyquote.com

There is even a Facebook page called “People Against Our IDIOT President Obama”

It doesn’t surprise me that people would make these kinds of comments about our president. People have probably said similar things about every president. But what grieves me is when I hear Christians making these kinds of comments about our president, or posting comments like these on Facebook.

Peter told his readers to “honor everyone.” Then after exhorting them to “fear God,” he exhorted them to “honor the Emperor.” Do you know who the Emperor was when Peter wrote this? Nero. One of the most wicked tyrants in history. He executed opponents, persecuted Christians, and even killed his own mother. It is reported that he had Christians dipped in oil or wax, impaled them on poles, and set them on fire as torches. In the Circus Maximus, he often wrapped them in animal skins and threw them to lions or dogs that tore them apart in front of the spectators. Yet Peter told believers to honor this man.

We must honor those in power above us because God placed them there and gave them their authority. Paul said, “For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God” (Romans 13:1).

Therefore, God calls us to honor President Obama. This does not mean we have like him or agree with anything he does or believe he is a good president. But we must honor him in our hearts and with our speech. For a believer in Jesus to call President Obama an idiot is a sin, not just against the president but against God.

Let me ask a question to those who complain and rant against the president. Do you pray for him as much as you criticize him?

Paul tells us in 1 Timothy 2, “First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, and intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way.” (1 Timothy 2:1–2). God commands us to pray for our leaders. Do you?

God takes his word very seriously. If we dishonor the President there may be consequences in our lives for disobeying God’s command. These consequences will be worse than anything the president does to us by his policies.

So, honor Barack Obama. Whether you like him or not. Whether you agree with him or not. If you don’t know how to honor him, it would be better to say nothing and simply pray for him.


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#20. To: redleghunter (#0) (Edited)

Therefore, God calls us to honor President Obama.

Another example of Christianity promoting the pathological ideal that love and well-earned disgust and hatred should be capable of living side by side within the same individual. In real life each aspect interferes with the other to produce an immobilized, guilt-ridden, compliant, over-tolerant, groveling, vegetable chronically seeking forgiveness from sadists whether they are in a church pulpit, in a school classroom, or in political office.

This is one reason I would never subscribe to Christianity. It is too inclined to inculcate pathology that creates internal conflict and pathological immobilization.

Respect and honor are to be merited. Behavior which is in accordance with respect and honor is to be encouraged and rewarded. Behavior that is contrary to respect and honor is to be expunged.

Please note this is an OP/ED piece from a pastor to generate discussion.

A pastor of pathology.

rlk  posted on  2015-03-18   19:03:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: rlk, GarySpFc, liberator (#20)

Another example of Christianity promoting the pathological ideal that love and well-earned disgust and hatred should be capable of living side by side within the same individual.

I think the internal conflict is all your own.

Christ healed willing repentant sinners. He did not embrace their sin.

As a Christian I know most of the emperor's policies are evil. Most because he tries to usurp powers that don't belong to him. I don't support his policies or efforts. I oppose them.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-19   1:33:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: redleghunter (#22)

Christ healed willing repentant sinners. He did not embrace their sin.

Christ has nothing to do with it. When a person holds diametrically opposed value systems it called split level functioning and requires therapeutic intervention Christ was neither knowlegable about, or capable, of to produce a fully functioning and rational individual.

rlk  posted on  2015-03-19   1:54:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: rlk (#24)

What's the split level here?

The example of Christ is relevant. He was Holy and by the Law should not be in contact with sin and the unclean. However given His mission of Grace He offered both physical and spiritual healing.

So the pastor can oppose the emperor's policies, vote for another candidate, protest in front of an abortion clinic, write an OP ED blasting the evil decisions of the government etc.

What the pastor points out it is our right to do all of the above should be tempered with Christian compassion. Pray for your enemies to see the light. Not condone or join them. Getting on social media calling the emperor a bastard May feel good but does such behavior honor God? No.

So there is no pathology in sincere compassion for the spiritually blind.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-19   2:11:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: redleghunter (#25) (Edited)

there is no pathology in sincere compassion for the spiritually blind.

If you want to conduct your life as some kind of '60 love-in, go ahead and live that way. As for me, it somebody messes with me, they can look down the barrel of a 44 magnum for salvation.

Prayer and unconditional love doesn't work. At various times half the world's human population was slaughtered or enslaved. Many of them were praying to their god for hope. The only hope for survival from aggressive psychopaths in this world is a good rifle, or a good sword, and ability to use it.

rlk  posted on  2015-03-19   2:27:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: rlk (#26)

If you want to conduct your life as some kind of '60 love-in, go ahead and live that way. As for me, it somebody messes with me, they can look down the barrel of a 44 magnum for salvation.

Prayer and unconditional love doesn't work. At various times half the world's human population was slaughtered or enslaved. Many of them were praying to their god for hope. The only hope for survival from aggressive psychopaths in this world is a good rifle, or a good sword, and ability to use it.

60s "love in" hardly. I said sincere compassion not unconditional love of evil doers. Unconditional love would mean I would let some psycho murder my family and not attempt to defend them. That's not what I was getting at. In several posts I have clearly said we must oppose evil. Not accept it, nor encourage it or give evil a passive nod.

One can hate the evil while pray for the redemption of the evil doer.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-19   14:15:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: redleghunter (#30) (Edited)

One can hate the evil while pray for the redemption of the evil doer.

If one is warped or stupid enough. If you don't mind, I'll keep my emotions true, strong, and uncontaminated by immobilizing bull crap. Many people can not be redeamed. They'll kick you in the teeth and laugh at you for being a sucker while you pray for them.

People such as the Kennedys, Carters, Bushs, Kerrys, Obamas, and Hillarys deserveve all the disgust and disrespect they have worked hard to merit.

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#42. To: rlk (#34)

You are exactly right.

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