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Title: Most Chinese Say Their Military Can Crush America in Battle
Source: The National Interest
URL Source: http://www.nationalinterest.org/blo ... can-crush-america-battle-12414
Published: Mar 14, 2015
Author: Zachery Keck
Post Date: 2015-03-14 13:37:26 by Willie Green
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Comments: 95

The vast majority of Chinese citizens believe the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) could seize islands in the East and South China Seas, even if the U.S. military were to intervene in the conflicts.

No less than 87 percent of respondents said that the Chinese military already possessed the capability to take back the Diaoyu/Senkaku Islands from Japan, according to a recent public opinion poll. When asked whether they still believed the PLA could achieve this objective if the U.S. intervened in the conflict, 74 percent said yes.

The numbers were much the same for the South China Sea. When asked whether they believed the PLA could militarily take back disputed islands in the South China Sea, 85.6 percent of respondents said that China’s military could achieve this objective. Even if the U.S. military intervened on behalf of the Southeast Asian nations, about 73 percent of respondents said they still believed the Chinese military would prevail.

These were just some of the results of a recent survey published by Andrew Chubb and the Perth USAsia Centre (h/t ASPI’s The Strategist), entitled: “Exploring China’s ‘Maritime Consciousness’ Public Opinion on the South and East China Sea Disputes.” The poll, which was the first in what will be an annual poll on Chinese views of the island disputes, was based on phone interviews conducted with 1,413 adult residents of Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Changsha and Chengdu.

Despite the confidence in their country’s military’s capabilities, a slight majority of respondents said they did not want to go to war over disputed islands in either the South or East China Seas. When asked whether it was in China’s national interest to use military force to take back the Diaoyu/Senkaku Islands, which Japan administers but Beijing also claims, 55.5 percent of respondents said that it was not. Just over 33 percent disagreed while the rest were unsure or didn’t answer.

Fifty-four percent of respondents agreed that it was not in China’s interest to use military force to take back disputed islands in the South China Sea, compared to 33.5 percent who disagreed. The rest were unsure or did not answer.

The survey participants also didn’t rank the island disputes as particularly important compared with many domestic issues. When the pollsters presented participants with a list of nine issues and asked them to choose the five most important, around 51 percent of respondents selected “island issues with neighboring countries” as one of their choices. Corruption, rich-poor disparity, food and drug safety, moral issues and environmental pollution all ranked higher. Notably, however, the island disputes ranked considerably higher than reunification with Taiwan, which only 22 percent of respondents selected as among their top five issues.

The overwhelming belief that the PLA would prevail in a conflict with the United States in the East or South China Seas could make it easier for Chinese leaders to gain support for aggressive policies. At the same time, it could very well make Party leaders more weary of actually initiating a conflict, given the domestic repercussions for them if China is defeated.


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#48. To: A Pole (#46)

"Weird"? How?

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-16   10:19:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Liberator (#42)

In the past, MOST Americans knew they were the best at nearly everything.

To know that you are the best you need to know what your competitors are.

How can you compare if you cannot point a country on the map or spell its name?

For example to claim that you have the best food, most beautiful women, the longest life expectancy you need to travel, eat the food, look at the women and read the stats.

A Pole  posted on  2015-03-16   10:21:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Pericles (#16) (Edited)

I piss on Reagan's America which created the Islamic jihad we fight today.

Hold your bladder there, Sonny....

a) The Islamic Jihad is at least 700 years old. NOT a historian, eh?

b) In Reagan's America we'd have deported your azz back to your Third World dung-hole (for your inability to meet OUR standard of skill and honor.)

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-16   10:23:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Liberator (#48)

Weird"? How?

Do you believe that you are so superior to other people that the common laws and rules do not apply to you?

Do you believe this about yourself as an individual? How are your neighbors, friends and enemies reacting to your opinion?

A Pole  posted on  2015-03-16   10:25:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: A Pole (#49)

To know that you are the best you need to know what your competitors are.

How can you compare if you cannot point a country on the map or spell its name?

Frankly, America had so few competitors for so long, while the ever-changing nations of the world were mostly...irrelevant to our lives. We we like to visit Poland for example? Nnn...naaah. Italia? Of course.

When you're at the top of the heap and center of the universe of culture and commerce, those exceptions are still looking upward and outward....and aiming FOR America. Of course there was bound to be some international jealousy and resentment. 0bola himself is one of those because he was NOT part of it.

You'd have to understand more than that -- as Americans, we didn't need you; didn't need to think outside our own 3,000,000 sq miles of Atlantic-to-Pacific world. Call it insular, but it was our reality. I realize this sounds arrogant now, but it's just what it was. And for the most part, STILL is.

For example to claim that you have the best food, most beautiful women, the longest life expectancy you need to travel, eat the food, look at the women and read the stats.

Lol -- WHAT "stats"?? Sovereign unarmed Europe divided and overrun by Islam, socialists, and nitwits. Who'd STILL rather live in America.

The USA was the prime facilitator of all that freedom and prosperity Europe re-attained during post WWII.

The reason America has fallen off the cliff in all areas of culture and life has been the influx of Third World flotsam, it's Lefist-Statist sabotage and hijacking, and its rejection of God and adoption of moral relativism.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-16   10:39:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: A Pole (#51) (Edited)

Do you believe that you are so superior to other people that the common laws and rules do not apply to you?

How are you defining "common law"?

Do you believe this about yourself as an individual? How are your neighbors, friends and enemies reacting to your opinion?

My opinion is more or less a consensus of my political demographic.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-16   10:42:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Pericles (#18)

The Islamic jihad of today was organized and trained and trained to organize via the Reagan effort to fight the USSR via Islamic jihad.

Try to run from that truth.

Blaming the US for the world-wide 700 year-long Jihad is...beyond asinine and delusional.

You're just (still) mad the Soviets FAILED in A-Stan. And FAILED, period.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-16   10:52:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: rlk, Pericles (#28)

There is no islamic jihad of "today" that differs from the purpose and momentum of jihad from the last fourteen hundred years. Reagan used a small obscure group to confront communist jihad and break the back of the Soviet military. It was a smart move. You argue as though Reagan created an enormous tide of supermen that is behind every victory since then. You're crazy.

Perfect rebuttal to...insane revisionism.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-16   10:54:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Pericles (#33)

Rot in your grave Reagan Administration.

You mad, bro?

Careful. From the grave, Reagan just might bomb your tent...or launch a Star Wars rocket attack upon your subversive Greek-socialist-totalitarian azz. BOO!!

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-16   10:57:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Pericles (#39)

This Islamism is a new phenomenon that came about during the 80s.

Try the 1970s. Thanks to Jimmah Carter and Frank Church, and the Lefists-Globalists.

Btw -- "this Islamism" is merely the Koran and fundamentalist Islam being followed TO A TEE. 700 years of this bloody satanic cult proves you are monumentally ignorant of history.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-16   11:01:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Liberator, rlk (#54)

Blaming the US for the world-wide 700 year-long Jihad is...beyond asinine and delusional.

I blame Reagan's USA for allying itself with the jihad - funneling billions of dollars into it, modernizing its war fighting ability and making it a credible threat to the modern world.

Pericles  posted on  2015-03-16   11:09:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Liberator (#56)

Careful. From the grave, Reagan just might bomb your tent...or launch a Star Wars rocket attack upon your subversive Greek-socialist-totalitarian azz. BOO!!

Reagan had enough brain damage to be a zombie in office is what you are saying?

Pericles  posted on  2015-03-16   11:10:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Pericles (#58) (Edited)

I blame Reagan's USA for allying itself with the jihad - funneling billions of dollars into it, modernizing its war fighting ability and making it a credible threat to the modern world.

You can repeat your BS all day and night. It doesn't make your delusions true.

Moreover, TODAY'S Islam is it's own beast, flushed with Saudi/petrol cash, a genetic disposition toward insanity, and a Cult belief that is truly Satanic in EVERY way. And here YOU still blame Reagan??

Very funny.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-16   11:24:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Pericles (#59)

Reagan had enough brain damage to be a zombie in office is what you are saying?

No. What I'm really saying is that your baboon brain-transplant has been an epic FAIL.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-16   11:25:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Liberator (#60)

Moreover, TODAY'S Islam is it's own beast, flushed with Saudi/petrol cash, a genetic disposition toward insanity, and a Cult belief that is truly Satanic in EVERY way. And here YOU still blame Reagan??

Saudi Arabia is America's satanic ally then. How is the USA coming up smelling like roses and distant from jihadis by your reply? Face it, you have zero ways to save your argument in this case.

Pericles  posted on  2015-03-16   11:42:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Pericles (#62) (Edited)

Saudi Arabia is America's satanic ally then.

It is. OF THE RULING ELITES. Which is part of the reason the US (since Reagan) has devolved into a suicidal, UN azz-kissing, globalist, NWO tool.

How is the USA coming up smelling like roses and distant from jihadis by your reply?

We now have a subversive gubmint, Sherlock. Since Poppy Bush became the globalist mule, the past four American puppets (and all the Dem/Leftist Party) have been working to sabotage America's sovereignty and exceptionalism.

NOT paying attention -- is that a hobby of yours? Your political naivete and unsophistication is...pathetic.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-16   11:49:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Pericles (#58) (Edited)

I blame Reagan's USA for allying itself with the jihad - funneling billions of dollars into it, modernizing its war fighting ability and making it a credible threat to the modern world.

You're repeating yourself. Endless repetition does not improve the strength of an inane argument.

You hate Reagan, perceive him as a threat to your incapacity to function as an adult, and are determined to attack him by falsely throwing dirt at his reputation through psychotic levels of exaggeration. What else is new?

rlk  posted on  2015-03-16   12:11:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: rlk (#64)

You hate Reagan, perceive him as a threat, and are determined to attack him by falsely throwing dirt at his reputation. What's new?

Reagan's policies enabled the rise of al-Qaeda. Try and deny it all you want - but you can't.

Pericles  posted on  2015-03-16   12:15:02 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Liberator (#53)

How are you defining "common law"?

Common lows/rules are those that apply to all men and nations. Nobody is exempt or exceptional although many think that they are above.

Only God is above but He is humble enough to come down, to assume human nature and to serve.

Satan fell through pride.

A Pole  posted on  2015-03-16   12:21:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: A Pole (#66)

Common lows/rules are those that apply to all men and nations. Nobody is exempt or exceptional although many think that they are above.

Ok...but why would I as an American who believes in the national exceptionalism of our heritage, values, motivation, resources, and will would somehow believe (as was your contention) that "common laws and rules do not apply" to us?

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-16   12:27:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: A Pole (#66)

Satan fell through pride.

So "pride" in our American virtues, faith, and confidence, loyalty, and charity is somehow "satanic"?

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-16   12:28:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Pericles (#65)

HA! That is some wild obsession you and your comrades have there. It's an utter warped sense of truth and evidence of clinical insanity that never wanes. Almost a Muzzie-type of unjustified obsession, hate, and demonization.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-16   12:32:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: rlk, Pericles (#64)

You're repeating yourself. Endless repetition does not improve the strength of an inane argument.

It's clinical.

You gotta wonder how badly the baboon brain procedure was messed up.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-16   12:33:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Liberator (#68)

These are not if based in actual reality. Satanic is to elevate oneself over other creatures of the same nature and rank.

A Pole  posted on  2015-03-16   12:42:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Liberator (#68)

So "pride" in our American virtues, faith, and confidence, loyalty, and charity

Beside what are you saying? That Americans are uniquely virtuous, faithful, charitable or that they aspire to be so?

Does it apply to all Americans or only to those you share your political views?

A Pole  posted on  2015-03-16   12:50:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Pericles (#65)

Reagan's policies enabled the rise of al-Qaeda. Try and deny it all you want - but you can't.

Tell me the sun will rise in the West tomorrow, and if I laugh at you, accuse me of denial. What you have is an angry aggressive psychological illness which has become an art form and a constant evasive substitute for adulthood. It is characterized by over-exaggeration and theatrical presentation which gets you attention and an illusion of importance. It can neither be subdued by evidence nor ordinary rational discourse.

rlk  posted on  2015-03-16   12:58:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: rlk (#73)

Tell me the sun will rise in the West tomorrow, and if I laugh at you, accuse me of denial. What you have is an angry aggressive psychological illness which has become an art form and a constant evasive substitute for adulthood. It is characterized by over-exaggeration and theatrical presentation which gets you attention and an illusion of importance. It can neither be subdued by evidence nor ordinary rational discourse.

I am not a progressive. You want to tell me again why Reagan should be respected while he armed jihadis? Because he shared a common enemy? Sorry, after 9/11 that does not fly for me - especially since many of al-Qaeda were vets of Reagan admins cover efforts.

Pericles  posted on  2015-03-16   13:01:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Pericles (#74)

Wail your tune for me!

rlk  posted on  2015-03-16   13:12:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: A Pole (#72)

what are you saying? That Americans are uniquely virtuous, faithful, charitable or that they aspire to be so?

Yes. THAT is the past "American" DNA. That DNA has been diluted now to the point where it's no longer majority ethos, but still substantial as compared to most of Europe.

Does it apply to all Americans or only to those you share your political views?

It applies to those for whom the same basis of similar ethics, morals, values, loyalties and charitable obligations and responsibilities remain in effect (yes, ergo, they ARE vastly conservative Americans.)

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-16   13:30:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Pericles (#74)

I am not a progressive.

Sybil, is that YOU??

Sorry, after 9/11 that does not fly for me - especially since many of al-Qaeda were vets of Reagan admins cover efforts.

Now you're somehow tying Reagan (who left the Presidency in 1989) to 9/11?? Count 'em -- that's THREE Presidents, and FOUR admins later.

Is there no end to your futile desperation?

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-16   13:33:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Liberator (#77)

Now you're somehow tying Reagan (who left the Presidency in 1989) to 9/11?? Count 'em -- that's THREE Presidents, and FOUR admins later.

Who can bother to consider temporal continuity at a time like this? Just get hysterical and shout, "Reagan did it!"

rlk  posted on  2015-03-16   13:41:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: rlk, Liberator (#78)

Now you're somehow tying Reagan (who left the Presidency in 1989) to 9/11?? Count 'em -- that's THREE Presidents, and FOUR admins later.

Who can bother to consider temporal continuity at a time like this? Just get hysterical and shout, "Reagan did it!"

Aren't you the stupid American that says Islam plays the long game? The jihadis used America's money to defeat one enemy and then turned on the next one in line. Same jihad pattern as before - defeat the Persians and then fall on the Roman empire.

Pericles  posted on  2015-03-16   18:33:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Pericles, rlk, Liberator (#79)

You guys need to ease off Periclies. He's not the brightest bulb in the pack.

He's just a poor broke ass russian clown with a huge man crush on putin.

His last real job was posing for the 2013 Dumbest Fucks of the Year calender. He was February, March and April. His ass covers a wide area.

calcon  posted on  2015-03-16   19:38:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: calcon, rlk, Liberator (#80)

I am not a Russian, stupid Americans.....

Pericles  posted on  2015-03-16   20:09:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Pericles (#81) (Edited)

I am not a Russian, stupid Americans.....

No, you are a lazy, good for nothing, Greek.

Nick Popincornholis

cranko  posted on  2015-03-16   20:20:44 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: cranko (#82)

And these are images that they will dig up for America 3,000 years from now:

http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/

Pericles  posted on  2015-03-16   22:09:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Willie Green (#0)

There must be something in the water there. The Chinese are sounding like the North Koreans.

Don  posted on  2015-03-16   22:37:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: calcon (#80) (Edited)

You guys need to ease off Periclies.

Ease off? The God damned pig is nothing but a defiant agent for Obama and islamic jihad. He's out to besmertch the best president we've had in 100 years to do it. He a disciple of counterculturalism counter-rationalism.

rlk  posted on  2015-03-17   0:25:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: rlk, Pericles (#85)

He's out to besmertch the best president we've had in 100 years to do it.

Who is that? Ronald Reagan? If so, there was just a fleeting myth. What, exactly did the "myth" do for America? Let us see your facts beyond fiction based lore.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-03-17   0:46:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: rlk, calcon (#85)

You guys need to ease off Periclies.

Ease off? The God damned pig is nothing but a defiant agent for Obama and islamic jihad. He's out to besmertch the best president we've had in 100 years to do it.

I was anti jihad before 9/11 supporting the Serbs against the USA who was bombing them to help jihadi Muslims with years worth of posts on Freerepublic under the names Pericles and Destro.

The USA is jihad's bitch. The USA has backed jihadis against eastern Christians for 2 decades now.

Cyprus, Serbia, Russia, Syria, Iraq and so on - both Dem and Repub admins.

Your stupidity shows when you think I am pro Obama and pro Jihad.

Pericles  posted on  2015-03-17   0:50:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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