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Title: Most Chinese Say Their Military Can Crush America in Battle
Source: The National Interest
URL Source: http://www.nationalinterest.org/blo ... can-crush-america-battle-12414
Published: Mar 14, 2015
Author: Zachery Keck
Post Date: 2015-03-14 13:37:26 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 20452
Comments: 95

The vast majority of Chinese citizens believe the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) could seize islands in the East and South China Seas, even if the U.S. military were to intervene in the conflicts.

No less than 87 percent of respondents said that the Chinese military already possessed the capability to take back the Diaoyu/Senkaku Islands from Japan, according to a recent public opinion poll. When asked whether they still believed the PLA could achieve this objective if the U.S. intervened in the conflict, 74 percent said yes.

The numbers were much the same for the South China Sea. When asked whether they believed the PLA could militarily take back disputed islands in the South China Sea, 85.6 percent of respondents said that China’s military could achieve this objective. Even if the U.S. military intervened on behalf of the Southeast Asian nations, about 73 percent of respondents said they still believed the Chinese military would prevail.

These were just some of the results of a recent survey published by Andrew Chubb and the Perth USAsia Centre (h/t ASPI’s The Strategist), entitled: “Exploring China’s ‘Maritime Consciousness’ Public Opinion on the South and East China Sea Disputes.” The poll, which was the first in what will be an annual poll on Chinese views of the island disputes, was based on phone interviews conducted with 1,413 adult residents of Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Changsha and Chengdu.

Despite the confidence in their country’s military’s capabilities, a slight majority of respondents said they did not want to go to war over disputed islands in either the South or East China Seas. When asked whether it was in China’s national interest to use military force to take back the Diaoyu/Senkaku Islands, which Japan administers but Beijing also claims, 55.5 percent of respondents said that it was not. Just over 33 percent disagreed while the rest were unsure or didn’t answer.

Fifty-four percent of respondents agreed that it was not in China’s interest to use military force to take back disputed islands in the South China Sea, compared to 33.5 percent who disagreed. The rest were unsure or did not answer.

The survey participants also didn’t rank the island disputes as particularly important compared with many domestic issues. When the pollsters presented participants with a list of nine issues and asked them to choose the five most important, around 51 percent of respondents selected “island issues with neighboring countries” as one of their choices. Corruption, rich-poor disparity, food and drug safety, moral issues and environmental pollution all ranked higher. Notably, however, the island disputes ranked considerably higher than reunification with Taiwan, which only 22 percent of respondents selected as among their top five issues.

The overwhelming belief that the PLA would prevail in a conflict with the United States in the East or South China Seas could make it easier for Chinese leaders to gain support for aggressive policies. At the same time, it could very well make Party leaders more weary of actually initiating a conflict, given the domestic repercussions for them if China is defeated.


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#1. To: Willie Green (#0)

Most Chinese Say Their Military Can Crush America in Battle

They're right. They have competence, determination, seriousness, and superior numbers working for them. Americans have a population of babyfied soft pussys from top to bottom.

rlk  posted on  2015-03-14   20:09:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: rlk (#1)

. Americans have a population of babyfied soft pussys from top to bottom.

Good. The world would be better off with a weak America that does not sow destruction and revolution overseas.

Pericles  posted on  2015-03-14   22:28:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Pericles (#2)

Good. The world would be better off with a weak America

We don't even have the strength to kill our convicted Baby rapers and child molesters, because they didn't "kill anyone"... we, as a nation, have been pussified.

We are as weak as you desire us.

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-03-14   22:38:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: GrandIsland (#3)

We are as weak as you desire us.

Not yet. But the world would be better off when America is kicked out overseas and forced to come home and guard her borders. There won't be peace in the world (there never will be) but there won't be the USA doing what it did to the Arab world which has helped the rise of ISIS and other evils by the vacuum created by American intervention.

Pericles  posted on  2015-03-14   22:45:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Pericles (#4)

There won't be peace in the world (there never will be) but there won't be the USA doing what it did to the Arab world which has helped the rise of ISIS and other evils by the vacuum created by American intervention.

Don't blame America. The Arabs dd it to themselves when they took up islam long before America existed.

rlk  posted on  2015-03-14   23:49:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: rlk (#5) (Edited)

Don't blame America. The Arabs dd it to themselves when they took up islam long before America existed.

Proves my point America can't be involved in the world because its people don't understand the world. Like the president of the USA (a supposed Harvard grad) who starts a war in an Arab Muslim country not knowing the difference between Shia and Sunni - something I learned in High School Social Studies history class.

Pericles  posted on  2015-03-15   1:24:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Pericles (#6)

Proves my point America can't be involved in the world because its people don't understand the world.

What an ignorant statement. Americans don't understand the world huh.

No you don't understand America. Quit whining.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-15   8:31:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A K A Stone, Pericles (#7)

To Pericles: No you don't understand America

Do you believe in a doctrine of American Exceptionalism?

A Pole  posted on  2015-03-15   11:20:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: A Pole (#10)

Do you believe in a doctrine of American Exceptionalism?

Depends on how you define it.

I think we were an exceptional nation. I think our morals have broken down and don't think that is as true as before.

I think our constitution was exceptional and gave Americans an opportunity to acheive a lot if they were willing to make the right decisions.

I think our form of government was the exception.

I don't think we are racially superior or automatically always the most moral. But by in large our values and system is better then the rest of the worlds.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-15   12:38:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: A K A Stone (#12) (Edited)

Depends on how you define it.

You imply that outsiders have problems with understanding America, so that America is above universal rules of politics and history. This would signify exceptional status.

A Pole  posted on  2015-03-15   13:06:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: A Pole, A K A Stone (#13)

You imply that outsiders have problems with understanding America, so that America is above universal rules of politics and history.

Lookit -- up until the glory years of Reagan, the entire world looked up to America AND what it stood for. In every way. Want to know why? Because America was THE one nation in history that defied and transcended the "universal rules of politics and history."

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-16   10:13:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Liberator (#45)

America was THE one nation in history that defied and transcended the "universal rules of politics and history."

A weird notion

A Pole  posted on  2015-03-16   10:16:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: A Pole (#46)

"Weird"? How?

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-16   10:19:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Liberator (#48)

Weird"? How?

Do you believe that you are so superior to other people that the common laws and rules do not apply to you?

Do you believe this about yourself as an individual? How are your neighbors, friends and enemies reacting to your opinion?

A Pole  posted on  2015-03-16   10:25:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: A Pole (#51) (Edited)

Do you believe that you are so superior to other people that the common laws and rules do not apply to you?

How are you defining "common law"?

Do you believe this about yourself as an individual? How are your neighbors, friends and enemies reacting to your opinion?

My opinion is more or less a consensus of my political demographic.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-16   10:42:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Liberator (#53)

How are you defining "common law"?

Common lows/rules are those that apply to all men and nations. Nobody is exempt or exceptional although many think that they are above.

Only God is above but He is humble enough to come down, to assume human nature and to serve.

Satan fell through pride.

A Pole  posted on  2015-03-16   12:21:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: A Pole (#66)

Satan fell through pride.

So "pride" in our American virtues, faith, and confidence, loyalty, and charity is somehow "satanic"?

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-16   12:28:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#71. To: Liberator (#68)

These are not if based in actual reality. Satanic is to elevate oneself over other creatures of the same nature and rank.

A Pole  posted on  2015-03-16 12:42:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Liberator (#68)

So "pride" in our American virtues, faith, and confidence, loyalty, and charity

Beside what are you saying? That Americans are uniquely virtuous, faithful, charitable or that they aspire to be so?

Does it apply to all Americans or only to those you share your political views?

A Pole  posted on  2015-03-16 12:50:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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