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Title: Two Officers Shot in Ferguson After White House Declares Open Season on Cops
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Published: Mar 12, 2015
Author: sara noble
Post Date: 2015-03-12 08:20:15 by tpaine
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www.independentsentinel.com www.independentsentinel.com Officer Cries In Pain On One Video Ferguson “protesters” gathered outside the Ferguson police station following the resignation of Chief Jackson. Shortly after midnight, someone shot two police officers. No one knows who fired, but it appeared the shots were fired directly at the officers. The DOJ released a scathing report accusing Ferguson police of racism knowing it would reignite the nearly-burned out furor in Ferguson. A 32-year-old officer from nearby Webster Groves was shot in the face and a 41- year-old officer from St. Louis County was shot in the shoulder, St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar said at a news conference. Both were taken to a hospital, where Belmar said they were conscious. He said he did not have further details about their conditions but described their injuries as “serious.” They weren’t even Ferguson police officers. You can hear the officers screaming in pain on this video. There were about 60 to 70 protesters and their behavior prompted the police to send officers in riot gear. St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar told reporters, “I’ve said many times we cannot sustain this without problems and that’s not a reflection of those expressing their first amendment rights. But this is a very dangerous environment for our officers to work in.” At least three shots were fired and the wounds were “very serious”, Belmar said. Some said the shots seemed to come from a house but there was no house nearby and others said they might have come from a small hill. Prior to the shooting, “protesters” were chanting to show they weren’t satisfied with the resignation of Chief Jackson. Others were angry and potentially dangerous. They smell blood in the water. One protester said it was mostly peaceful until the shots rang out. Mostly peaceful?!? If the participants were in the Tea Party, would it be described as mostly peaceful? The acting head of the Justice Department’s civil rights division released a statement saying the U.S. government remains committed to reaching a “court- enforceable agreement” to address Ferguson’s “unconstitutional practices,” regardless of who’s in charge of the city. What about the rights of the police who they are endangering with their race baiting? MSNBC’s Ed Schultz wants Ferguson police disarmed. The riots/protests were funded by George Soros among others and engineered by Barack Obama and Eric Holder. The video of the shooting via Matthew Keys: After the shooting, the leftists chanted this allegedly: after the shooting The chanting was utter nonsense. The only ones losing their freedom are the police and the normal people in Ferguson being subjected to these Soros-communist funded riots/protests which are based on a lie. They still have the hands up, don’t shoot posture. This was one of the “chants”: And another – “hands up, don’t shoot, stop this shit, we’re bullet proof”. Don’t expect any words of comfort from the White House or calls to families of the officers. One confused protester thinks the cops are “trigger happy”. CNN
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#5. To: GrandIsland (#3)
Like that is a desirable solution. Given Ferguson's history (and constant looting of the citizens as a notable bandit town), why don't the police have some cameras outside the station? You'd think that some cop would at least pull out a smartphone and try to record all the protesters' faces in the event of rioting or unrest. Or cops getting shot in front of a police station. The scammy website this is from has insecure, possibly malware, scripting on it. Here are the two vids, direct from YouBoob. Given such a lousy article, we get more actual info from these lo-res vids. And that police HQ doesn't look like a poverty-stricken precinct that can't afford cameras. They're blowing plenty of money on electricity for decorative outside lighting.
Great idea, grandi! -- Police pay should be the same as that for zoo keepers.
Neither is being a target because you wear a uniform. See, every once in a while, you spin. Not as much as some others... but you do spin. I never suggested it would be desirable... sticking your hand in your toilet to clean it isn't desirable... but if you keep shitting all over the bowl... it's a must.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
The article claims: -- "The riots/protests were funded by George Soros among others and engineered by Barack Obama and Eric Holder." --- You claim: --- "Any proof of that or will the accusation be enough?" ;-) Seriously though, I agree this smells like a put up job, but by forces a LOT higher up than 'Sharptons crew'.
From what I read, they were non life threatening. I wish them a speedy recovery too.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
They'd have to pay me, to start, 350,000 a year, to police that ZOO. I'll stay retired. Back circa 1964 my dad was one of the first white officers on the Denver PD to have a black partner. Racism was never tolerated in our home. But by 1982 the reality of Affirmative Action had taken hold enough such that not a single one of the friends I grew up with in our extended LEO family went on the job. I had the paperwork filled out just before turning 21, but when I was on a ride along shortly after my birthday we stopped for lunch. The consensus among those at the table was that if I had the chance to go back to school I should take it.... the job, or at least what was left of it, would still be there. Some of the best advice I ever got.
I'm an anon poster, not a news site. Look at the rest of their website, it's nothing but partisan hackery.
Lol. The way Hitler's Beer Hall Putsch was "mostly peaceful." Now that the ball is rolling, expect this to be the beginning of a nationwide trend, not an isolated incident facilitated by The Regime.
If I were 21 today, I'd never go back into it.... you were smart to avoid it. I talked my son out of following dad's footsteps. The job has changed drastically, over the years.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Because I suggested that vigilantes firing from rooftops isn't desirable? Yes, I am guilty of that, I suppose. Not sure why that is so heinous or considered grounds for being accused of "spin". Reuters filed a story, not much better than this one: The night started peacefully but about two dozen officers clad in riot gear later faced off with the protesters. At least two people were taken into custody. Gunshots rang out about midnight turning a scene of relative quiet into pandemonium. Many of the remaining few dozen demonstrators fled, some screaming. The line of police scrambled, with many taking defensive positions drawing their weapons and some huddling behind riot shields, according to a video published online. Belmar said the shooter was among the demonstrators standing across from the officers. "I don't know who did the shooting, to be honest with you right now, but somehow they were embedded in that group of folks," he said. Protesters at the scene, however, said on social media that the shots did not come from where they were standing. "The shooter was not with the protesters. The shooter was atop the hill," activist DeRay McKesson said on Twitter. "I was here. I saw the officer fall. The shot came from at least 500 feet away from the officers," he said. I'd like to know more about the firearms used. If it was rifle ammo, then maybe the shots rang out from the Grassy Knoll, as the protesters said. If the slugs are from a pistol, most likely it came from the protester ranks. Apparently, ballistics is a forgotten police science in Ferguson.
No.... because I NEVER SUGGESTED IT WOULD BE... but I suggested it might be necessary.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
First we'd have to define "thugs," and whether they could be considered (professional) assassins in this case. Only extreme naivete would dismiss this possibility considering the Regime's overt race-baiting since Day One. It has been painfully obvious that one major MO of The Regime has been to create a race war (for that matter, every which way to divide & conquer.) With barely 2 years left with which to do so, the pace must be stepped up, and more blue crackahs are gonna have to go down. Sharpy and Soros? In this case, scapegoats. Sharpy in particular appears to be scripted for potential martyrdom.
Yep. Community Poo-leasing in action
Apparently, ballistics is a forgotten police science in Ferguson. Do you think ANY serious, honest investigation will be forthcoming in this case?? (come on - really.)
Odds: 1,000,000-1. FOR. Wish there was a way to direct their anger towards the White Hut.
Armed vigilantes on rooftops can fire on protesters. Or cops. Or both in succession. Recall Manson's dreams of race war and how to instigate it. No, I'm not climbing on the roof any time soon. Neither should anyone else. Damn, you really have gone native after your Escape From New York.
I wouldn't dismiss it. It could be angry locals, white or black. It could be KKK trying to start a major incident. Or Sharpton's crew and/or the New Black Panther thugs. It's easy to toss around scenarios when we have poor news reporting and so little evidence. Bad articles like this are a Rorschach test. Just vague enough for any of us to project what we want to see in them. C'mon, you know you find that whole Shots Rang Out From The Grassy Knoll theory attractive. : )
It's hard to imagine they'll fail to do ballistics tests and identify the type of bullets and guns used. Maybe they'll be those 5.56 NATO steel-tipped NATO rounds that BATFE wants to ban. But it would be hard for that cop to take one to the face and still have a face left. I'm leaning toward pistol rounds, fired within 20'. Given that there were a few dozen cops in riot gear only feet from the protesters, it seems hard to imagine that someone didn't see a flash from the gun or something to indicate where the bullet originated. Maybe they were having a donut break and wear too busy to watch the crowd. I still don't grasp why the cops went out in riot gear on their front step. It seems purposeless to me. "Hey, you darned protesters, get off our lawn!" Seems dumb but maybe you had to be there to get why the supervising officer sent them out.
Sharpie just fills the role of "darkie field boss". He does what he is told to do by the people that pay him and promise him protection from prosecution.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Maybe Sharpie,but not the New Black Panthers. They are bigger posers than rappers,and total cowards unless they are armed and outnumber the unarmed whites by at least 10 to 1. They show up at media events to get on teebee and maybe score some white ass from guilt-ridden lefties who want to "prove" they aren't racists.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
The actions of these animals are providing the ammo needed for future politicians to write more grey area gun laws. Even though I'm not a Ferguson Zoo native, I take their assault upon their community as an assault upon my rights.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
I think they are willing to engage in man-to-man fighting against elderly white women voters. That is when they are most courageous.
I think the Ferguson unrest is a result of flash mobs which assembled from across the St. Louis metro area and even drew thugs from across the country. I think most every thug and petty criminal and gangsta-wannabe in the metro area made a beeline for Ferguson, thinking their numbers would protect them and they could riot and loot to express their political ideology. The original protesters were not the real troublemakers and many of them did help to defend local businesses from looters. Increasingly, police in metro areas have to find ways to deal with flash mobs that can assemble in well under an hour from Twitter/Facebook. The key elements is just how many "protesters" assembled. No way a dinky burg like Ferguson had that many locals involved. I think the big crowds were all from outside of Ferguson. And most of the rioting/looting.
Just watched the news conference. The St Louis County Chief said it was pistol ammo, (based on the officers wounds) and that some cops saw muzzle flashes up on the knoll, possibly 125 yards away. (which doesn't add up) As is usual for police work, another SNAFU..
Maybe they'll be those 5.56 NATO steel-tipped NATO rounds that BATFE wants to ban. But it would be hard for that cop to take one to the face and still have a face left. I like the way you're thinking here. Of course your theory that 5.56 wouldn't leave much face would obviously disprove that this round was used, but I wouldn't expect "investigators," the media, and the Regime to dismiss rhetoric and propaganda that would be so useful. I'm leaning toward pistol rounds, fired within 20'. Given that there were a few dozen cops in riot gear only feet from the protesters, it seems hard to imagine that someone didn't see a flash from the gun or something to indicate where the bullet originated. In a universe where there's an honest investigation. law, and justice? Yeah. ("Remember: SELMA!!!!") I still don't grasp why the cops went out in riot gear on their front step. It seems purposeless to me. "Hey, you darned protesters, get off our lawn!" HA! Well, there's two trains of thought -- strap it on, OR, play it passively (which would be perceived as weak.) Look -- Ferguson is Ground Zero for "The Beginning."
As is usual for police work, another SNAFU.. Okay, that's as clear as mud. : ) I'll go with pistol ammo since we have those in hand. If a rifle was shot from the Grassy Knoll (I'm still hopeful!), there should be damage to the building or slugs in the lawn that you can dig out.
Hey, a SNAFU will only hurt the police department. I'm sure they are pulling out all the stops to find the shooter(s) Sometimes it isn't possible to fire up the crystal ball and conveniently shit out an instant suspect. When looking for an armed black asshole as a suspect, in Ferguson, the possible suspects are endless.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Scripts. Roles. Players. AGENDA. Did Newtown add up? 9/11? JFK? New police chief. New blue "witnesses." At face value, I give the actual truth of any given matter 3-cents on the dollar. (just sayin'.)
If they fired from the crowd under fluid nighttime conditions and managed to hit two cops, I assume they had to be close. Or they were really terrific shots with a pistol. Given the gunslinging skills of your average homeboy, I'm thinking they were close, not expert pistoleros from Da Hood. [Notice how I deftly managed to reply to myself while only pretending to reply to you? LOL.]
Bad articles like this are a Rorschach test. Just vague enough for any of us to project what we want to see in them. Tis all true :-) My Press Conference: "The evidence suggests.....that SOME body got HACKED!! NO more questions until we run some IP numbers and ID the posters...er...I mean alleged ballistics of alleged shooters."
More accurate. We've been through lots of these stories where the reporting was awful, facts were scarce. Only later, after all interest has died down, do you get any real facts or investigation. I assume they called in MHP and FBI. So we might get some decent forensics at least. Also, there's a chance they left brass behind. Maybe brass with fingerprints.
I'm putin' *you* in charge of dis investigation. :-) 1) Either these gunslingin' "peaceful protesters" are so brazen that they fear absolutely NOTHING, and operate with total impunity. 2) (see #1.) [Notice how I deftly managed to reply to myself while only pretending to reply to you? LOL.] I'd play it safe, too. You're sounding like a k00k. ;-)
There are some pictures available on the St. Louis County Police FB page. A riot helmet with blood on it and an opened asp
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
You've been saving that up. I can tell.
A riot helmet with blood on it and an opened asp What was your *initial* opinion of this incident? And how has it changed after considering all the dynamics? (OR *has* it at all after all?) Oh, there's blood alright; Not questioning that blue was targeted; I just question ALL of the "Official" reports thus far, as well as into the foreseeable future of Ferguson (an "occupied" town.)
That wuz just too easy, Mr. DC Mayor.
My opinion only: It is time for the police to make friends with the various Militias, they cannot fight the upcoming race war alone, and the members of the militias will not help at this time. A race war between the forces of govt and the non whites is something the Militias are willing to take a wait and see attitude on, fighting for control of the country whatever/whoever is still standing after the race war is close to over, picking up weapons, ammo, and other supplies left after skirmishes and battles, by both sides. The above is My opinion only, since Sept 25, 2014, when I turned 70 and a half I have no active role in any Militia in Maine or any other state.
The job has changed drastically, over the years. I joined the Dept of Internal Security back in 67, by 76 I had, had enough, turned in my papers and badge and never looked back.
WELCOME TO THE PARTY PAL!
"Se La Bonton Ruela"
("We sing about God because we believe in Him. We are not trying to
offend anybody, but the evidence that we have seen of Him in our small little
lives trumps your opinion about whether or not He exists". ~ Jeff Foxworthy)
Maybe if they are alone and need walkers to move.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Good assumption,given the fact that the typical black thug almost always missed the guy he is shooting at and hits children 10 feet away from them.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest The zoo animals will reap what they sow... when they force a little roof top Justice.
#6. To: GrandIsland, Y'ALL (#1)
They'd have to pay me, to start, 350,000 a year, to police that ZOO. I'll stay retired.
#7. To: TooConservative (#5)
Like that is a desirable
#8. To: TooConservative (#2)
Any proof of that or will the accusation be enough to flack this sad-sack hatchet job?
It may be that the thugs deliberately shot cops just to provoke them into massacring the crowd to create another incident. Sharpton's crew is fully capable of it.
#9. To: Stoner (#4)
Hope the injured officers recover OK.
#10. To: GrandIsland (#1)
(Edited)
They are highly recruiting... being leaned on to hire more black officers. They are looking mostly for already certified officers from other departments.
#11. To: tpaine (#8)
"Any proof of that or will the accusation be enough?" ;-)
#12. To: tpaine (#0)
One protester said it was mostly peaceful until the shots rang out.
#13. To: VxH (#10)
Some of the best advice I ever got.
#14. To: GrandIsland (#7)
See, every once in a while, you spin. Not as much as some others... but you do spin.
The violence grew out of a Wednesday night demonstration in which several dozen protesters gathered in front of the Ferguson police department, just hours after Police Chief Thomas Jackson resigned.
#15. To: TooConservative (#14)
Because I suggested that vigilantes firing from rooftops isn't desirable?
#16. To: TooConservative, tpaine (#2)
It may be that the thugs deliberately shot cops just to provoke them into massacring the crowd to create another incident.
#17. To: GrandIsland (#13)
(Edited)
The job has changed drastically, over the years.
#18. To: TooConservative (#14)
I'd like to know more about the firearms used. If it was rifle ammo, then maybe the shots rang out from the Grassy Knoll, as the protesters said. If the slugs are from a pistol, most likely it came from the protester ranks.
#19. To: Stoner (#4)
Sounds like Ovomit is still community organizing / agitating there.
#20. To: GrandIsland (#15)
No.... because I NEVER SUGGESTED IT WOULD BE... but I suggested it might be necessary.
#21. To: Liberator (#16)
First we'd have to define "thugs," and whether they could be considered (professional) assassins in this case. Only extreme naivete would dismiss this possibility considering the Regime's overt race-baiting since Day One.
#22. To: Liberator, Grand Island (#18)
Do you think ANY serious, honest investigation will be forthcoming in this case??
#23. To: tpaine (#8)
Seriously though, I agree this smells like a put up job, but by forces a LOT higher up than 'Sharptons crew'.
#24. To: TooConservative (#21)
Or Sharpton's crew and/or the New Black Panther thugs.
#25. To: TooConservative (#20)
Damn, you really have gone native after your Escape From New York.
#26. To: sneakypete (#24)
They are bigger posers than rappers,and total cowards unless they are armed and outnumber the unarmed whites by at least 10 to 1.
#27. To: GrandIsland (#25)
Even though I'm not a Ferguson Zoo native, I take their assault upon their community as an assault upon my rights.
#28. To: TooConservative (#14)
I'd like to know more about the firearms used. If it was rifle ammo, then maybe the shots rang out from the Grassy Knoll, as the protesters said. If the slugs are from a pistol, most likely it came from the protester ranks.
#29. To: TooConservative (#22)
(Edited)
It's hard to imagine they'll fail to do ballistics tests and identify the type of bullets and guns used.
#30. To: tpaine, GrandIsland (#28)
Just watched the news conference. The St Louis County Chief said it was pistol ammo, (based on the officers wounds) and that some cops saw muzzle flashes up on the knoll, possibly 125 yards away. (which doesn't add up)
#31. To: tpaine (#28)
As is usual for police work, another SNAFU..
#32. To: tpaine, TooConservative (#28)
The St Louis County Chief said it was pistol ammo, (based on the officers wounds) and that some cops saw muzzle flashes up on the knoll, possibly 125 yards away. (which doesn't add up)
#33. To: Liberator (#29)
I'm leaning toward pistol rounds, fired within 20'.
#34. To: TooConservative (#21)
It's easy to toss around scenarios when we have poor news reporting and so little evidence.
#35. To: GrandIsland (#31)
Sometimes More often than not it isn't possible to fire up the crystal ball and conveniently shit out an instant suspect.
#36. To: TooConservative (#33)
If they fired from the crowd under fluid nighttime conditions and managed to hit two cops, I assume they had to be close. Or they were really terrific shots with a pistol. Given the gunslinging skills of your average homeboy, I'm thinking they were close, not expert pistoleros from Da Hood.
#37. To: Liberator (#36)
#38. To: Liberator (#36)
I'd play it safe, too. You're sounding like a k00k.
#39. To: GrandIsland (#37)
There are some pictures available on the St. Louis County Police FB page.
#40. To: TooConservative (#38)
#41. To: tpaine (#0)
#42. To: GrandIsland (#13)
If I were 21 today, I'd never go back into it.... you were smart to avoid it. I talked my son out of following dad's footsteps.
#43. To: tpaine, All (#0)
"What about the rights of the police who they are endangering
with their race baiting?"
#44. To: TooConservative (#26)
I think they are willing to engage in man-to-man fighting against elderly white women voters.
#45. To: TooConservative (#33)
If they fired from the crowd under fluid nighttime conditions and managed to hit two cops, I assume they had to be close.
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