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Title: 6.5 million over age 112 still drawing SS
Source: CNS news
URL Source: http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article ... urity-numbers-are-112-or-older
Published: Mar 9, 2015
Author: S. Jones
Post Date: 2015-03-09 12:54:48 by BobCeleste
Keywords: None
Views: 3772
Comments: 15

Many people are living longer, but not to age 112 or beyond -- except in the records of the Social Security Administration.

The SSA's inspector general has identified 6.5 million number-holders age 112 -- or older -- for whom no death date has been entered in the main electronic file, called Numident.

The audit, dated March 4, 2015, concluded that SSA lacks the controls necessary to annote death information on the records of number-holders who exceed "maximum reasonable life expectancies."

"We obtained Numident data that identified approximately 6.5 million numberholders born before June 16, 1901 who did not have a date of death on their record," the report states.

Some of the numbers assigned to long-dead people were used fraudulently to open bank accounts.

And thousands of those numbers apparently were used by illegal immigrants to apply for work:

"During Calendar Years 2008 through 2011, SSA received 4,024 E-Verify inquiries using the SSNs of 3,873 numberholders born before June 16, 1901," the report said. "These inquiries indicate individuals' attempts to use the SSNs to apply for work."

“It is incredible that the Social Security Administration in 2015 does not have the technical sophistication to ensure that people they know to be deceased are actually noted as dead,” said Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), chairman of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee.

“Tens of thousands of these numbers are currently being used to report wages to the Social Security Administration and to the IRS. People are fraudulently, but successfully, applying for jobs and benefits with these numbers. Making sure Social Security cleans up its death master file to prevent future errors and fraud is a good government reform we can all agree on,” Johnson said.

Sen. Tom Carper (D-Del.), the committee's ranking member, called the findings a "major problem" that wastes taxpayers' money, exposes citizens to identity theft and undermines confidence in government: ...

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#1. To: BobCeleste (#0)

“It is incredible that the Social Security Administration in 2015 does not have the technical sophistication to ensure that people they know to be deceased are actually noted as dead,” said Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), chairman of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee.

Oh for God's sake - are we really supposed to be THAT gullible? They don't "lack the technical sophistication", they lack the WILL. This backdoor is left open intentionally.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-03-09   13:00:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

Oh for God's sake - are we really supposed to be THAT gullible? They don't "lack the technical sophistication", they lack the WILL. This backdoor is left open intentionally.

Or are the 6.5 million part of a politically protected class of democrat voters?

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-03-09   13:35:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: BobCeleste (#0)

and undermines confidence in government: ...

How is that possible?

Or are they using negative numbers now?

Rufus T Firefly  posted on  2015-03-09   14:35:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: BobCeleste (#0)

"6.5 million over age 112 still drawing SS"

That's $100 billion per year.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-03-09   14:55:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: BobCeleste (#0)

The SSA's inspector general has identified 6.5 million number-holders age 112 -- or older -- for whom no death date has been entered in the main electronic file, called Numident.

This only points out one thing... mass fraud.

Children and grandchildren are living off a dead relatives SS.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-03-09   15:08:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: misterwhite (#4)

"6.5 million over age 112 still drawing SS"

That's $100 billion per year.

Chicken feed when it comes to buying votes for the democrat and it's slaves.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-03-09   15:12:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: GrandIsland (#5)

Children and grandchildren are living off a dead relatives SS.

And voting democrat.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-03-09   15:12:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: BobCeleste (#0)

The SSA's inspector general has identified 6.5 million number-holders age 112 -- or older -- for whom no death date has been entered in the main electronic file, called Numident.

The audit, dated March 4, 2015, concluded that SSA lacks the controls necessary to annote death information on the records of number-holders who exceed "maximum reasonable life expectancies."

And probably still voting early and 'often' for leftist candidates.

"Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever." (1 Peter 1:23)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-09   15:39:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: BobCeleste (#0)

It seems pefectly acceptable to me. SSA is waiting for each participant to notify the bureau about their own death; of course the notification must be signed by the participant.

"During Calendar Years 2008 through 2011, SSA received 4,024 E-Verify inquiries using the SSNs of 3,873 numberholders born before June 16, 1901," the report said. "These inquiries indicate individuals' attempts to use the SSNs to apply for work."

The department didn't catch 0bama, though; he applied several decades earlier.

Pridie.Nones  posted on  2015-03-09   15:45:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: BobCeleste (#7)

And voting democrat.

Voting Republican isn't any better.

Vikings or Huns - pick your oppressor... they both suck.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-03-09   16:16:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: redleghunter (#8)

And probably still voting early and 'often' for leftist candidates.

yup, remember, one cannot serve Truth and Honesty and lies and deception at the same time, for their behavior belies their god.

need we wonder who clinton serves?

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-03-09   16:18:08 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Vicomte13 (#10)

Voting Republican isn't any better.

As long as politicians love money, power and having sex with pre teen children more than they fear the people and their ultimate face to face confrontation with Christ, Christ as Judge, Jury and Executioner, nothing will change.

Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits,WHY do we have deficits?

Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?

You and I don't propose a federal budget. The president does.

You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.

You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.

You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bankdoes.

One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority.They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a president to do one cotton-pickingthing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.

Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits. The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes.Who is the speaker of the House? Nancy Pelosi.She is the leader of the majority party. She and fellow House members, not the president, can approve any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.

If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red .

If the Army & Marines are in IRAQ, it's because they want them in IRAQ

If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way.

There are no insoluble government problems.

Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not letthem con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like "the economy," "inflation," or "politics" that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

They, and they alone, have the power.

They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses.

Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees.

We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!

What you do with this article now that you have read it.......... is up to you.
Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper.


Why I voted for Dr. Chuck Baldwin.
Most of you voted for either George Bush or AlGore in 2002, take fifty minutes to see why you should have joined me.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-03-09   17:53:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Vicomte13, BobCeleste (#1)

These are not 6.5 million people over 110 who are drawing SS checks. They just aren't noted as dead in their computer system.

The IRS has always had truly terrible software. Every revamp comes out promising to fix things but it never really gets much better.

The bigger complaint here is that illegals and others have used these SS numbers to avoid reporting income to the IRS. If they would weed them out of their system, these scammers couldn't pull this scam any more. As it is, the computer doesn't even flag reports of wages being registered to someone over a century old.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-09   18:33:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: TooConservative (#13)

"These are not 6.5 million people over 110 who are drawing SS checks."

According to the government audit, "SSA issued approximately 6.4 million of the SSNs to process benefit claims filed before March 1972, including 48,746 SSNs issued to process death claims."

Doesn't "to process benefit claims" mean to write a check?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-03-10   11:10:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: misterwhite (#14)

I heard on TV today that there are apparently tens of thousands of checks still being sent out.

So, a much bigger scandal than the initial reports. And a growing scandal when you start to calculate how much has been wasted over the years. SS will, at present, go broke in 2024. And they don't care enough to do the most basic credibility checks on ongoing fund liabilities? It's just crazy and irresponsible.

You almost have to think there are some insiders looting the SS from the inside, that there is collusion by employees or ex-employees to defraud the SS fund.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-10   13:10:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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