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Title: Ted Cruz stands alone after the King Corn summit
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URL Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/%5Ehttp ... ne-after-the-king-corn-summit/
Published: Mar 8, 2015
Author: Jazz Shaw
Post Date: 2015-03-08 13:30:12 by A K A Stone
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Views: 900
Comments: 9

Yesterday we covered the acid test of prospective candidates for 2016 in Iowa when it comes to ethanol subsidies and the Renewable Fuel Standard. At that time I promised that I would report back to you on how the 2016 hopefuls did in this admittedly daunting challenge to conservative politicians. I’m sorry to say that, as the WSJ reported for us, the results were less than impressive in most cases.

Let’s start with the bad news. First up… Rick Perry.

[T]he former governor of a petroleum-rich state [Governor Perry] suggested he didn’t think it would be fair to end the RFS while oil companies continued to benefit from tax breaks. “I don’t think you pull the RFS out and discriminate against the RFS and leave all these other subsidies,” he said.

Jeb Bush acted like the RFS is a bad toy, but had no plans to put it back in the cupboard.

“The markets are ultimately going to have to decide this,” said Mr. Bush, who declined to set a firm deadline for ending the fuel standard imposed a decade ago by his brother, former President George W. Bush. “Whether that’s 2022 or sometime in the future I don’t know,” he said.

Chris Christie left no room for doubt.

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie was clearer about his position, saying he “absolutely” supported the fuel standard.

Mike Huckabee is at least consistent.

Mike Huckabee argued that support for ethanol is good national security policy, helping to reduce U.S. dependence on oil imports. He then quipped his support for the corn-based fuel wasn’t about pandering to Iowans because of their important role in the presidential nominating process.

Rick Santorum also stuck to his unsatisfactory 2012 answer.

Former Senator Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, who won the 2012 Iowa Republican caucuses, said ethanol “creates jobs in small-town and rural America, which is where people are hurting.”

From the same Bloomberg article, Lindsey Graham just played to the crowd.

South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham expressed strong support for ethanol in his appearance. “Every gallon of ethanol you can produce here in Iowa is one less gallon to have to buy from people who hate your guts,” he said.

Perhaps most disappointing, Scott Walker:

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker backed the RFS, saying that while he tends to oppose government intervention, a marketplace issue exists for ethanol. He said consumers do not have the same access to corn-based fuel as gasoline, and because of that there’s a need for the standard.

“Right now we don’t have a free and open marketplace, and so that’s why I’m going to take that position,” he said.

I’ve been building up some early hopes for you, Governor Walker, but I must say this was a big let down.

And then there was this guy…

When asked if he would support the Renewable Fuel Standard he just said no. And then he put out some hard truths which seemed to earn him the respect a difficult answer deserved.

“I recognize that this is a gathering of a lot of folks where the answer you’d like me to give is ‘I’m for the RFS, darnit;’ that’d be the easy thing to do,” he said. “But I’ll tell you, people are pretty fed up, I think, with politicians who run around and tell one group one thing, tell another group another thing, and then they go to Washington and they don’t do anything that they said they would do. And I think that’s a big part of the reason we have the problems we have in Washington, is there have been career politicians in both parties that aren’t listening to the American people and aren’t doing what they said they would do.”

And the crowd applauded, giving Cruz the warmest welcome so far.

Hot air reached out to the Cruz campaign about how he managed such an answer.

“Ted Cruz is straightforward about what he believes, whether he is in Iowa, Texas, or Washington DC. We need more leaders who tell the truth about what they will do and the response to that kind of honesty is very positive.”

I have to say, this was a potential game changer for me. I know that I probably put off some of you with my seemingly endless fascination with energy issues in general and ethanol subsidies in particular. It’s a sort of wonky subject, but I feel it’s an important one. And this forum in Iowa was, in my view, a test of character for the nascent candidates on a matter of vital interest.

I’ve expressed doubts in the past about the long term viability of Ted Cruz on the national stage, particularly given the horribly effective way the media has sold the “crazy wingnut” stories to the public. But this guy has demonstrated the kind of intestinal fortitude that is far too often lacking in GOP leaders, and he certainly showed those qualities once again in Iowa. Take this as a benchmark for the coming campaign. There weren’t many clear standouts here, but the Best in Show was clearly a winner.

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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker backed the RFS, saying that while he tends to oppose government intervention, a marketplace issue exists for ethanol.

A marketplace exists for child porn and snuff films too,you asshat. Should they be subsidized and should the American people be forced to buy them against their will after already paying for them via the federal and state subsidies?

He said consumers do not have the same access to corn-based fuel as gasoline, and because of that there’s a need for the standard.

On what planet does he live? I can't remember the last time I was offered the option to NOT buy ethanol.

Walker just shot himself in the foot for me. He is obviously clueless and just mindlessly repeating what his handlers have told him to say.

On the other hand,Cruz just stepped up to the plate.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-03-08   14:25:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: sneakypete (#1)

On what planet does he live? I can't remember the last time I was offered the option to NOT buy ethanol.

This varies by state.

I never buy ethanol-tainted gas. While it did dominate sales for some time years back here in farm country, leading to pure gas being available only at co-ops and gas stations catering to farmers (who hate it, including corn farmers), there has been a marked increase in pure gas availability in just the last year.

Some customers, like me, were quite militant about telling gas vendors that we didn't want our gas diluted with corn.

When I filled today, the pump had the usual Green ethanol symbol on one hose, the other hose was prominently marked "corn-free". And this is one of the biggest stop-n-shop chains in the state with a big regional presence.

A tiny victory.     : )

I follow this issue and recall a story about a station in Georgia that did gangbusters business selling pure gas as almost the only source for pure fuel in the metro area. Mobs of customers were after it.

I know a guy from Texas and we mentioned it one day when I said he needed to shop around a bit to find some pure gas at local stations for his little chainsaw. He was surprised to learn we had any pure gas here in the Plains (the corn heartland). I was surprised that he couldn't buy it at all in the hill country of central Texas, supposedly a bastion of individuality and lack of market regulation.

You might check a site called Pure-Gas.org. They try to maintain a state-by-state listing of user-contributed reports of where undiluted gas is available. People who have small engines (lawnmowers, etc.) or classic cars or motorcycles still want it and often plan their trips specifically around the availability of non-corn gas to fill up with. There are other similar web sites as well.

BTW, if you live where it is hard to buy, your best bet is a local airport. You can bet that Harrison Ford didn't have any corn in his plane's engine when he crashed. He had the good stuff. Takeoffs are, after all, the most dangerous part of flying small planes and required maximum power and reliability.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-09   6:05:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: TooConservative (#2)

People who have small engines (lawnmowers, etc.) or classic cars or motorcycles still want it and often plan their trips specifically around the availability of non-corn gas to fill up with.

You can still buy leaded gas at airports that service private prop planes. You can even get 110 octane there if you want it and are willing to pay the price.

Besides not rotting your rubber gas lines and rusting your metal gas cans,it's also great because it doesn't go flat over the winter so you don't have to run your mower engines dry and then drain the tanks. When summer comes just fire them up and start cutting grass.

The down side is despite the insane prices they charge you per gallon,there are no road taxes paid on it,and they won't let your car or truck anywhere near the pumps. You have to carry your 5 gallon can to the pump and then back to your car. No problem for most people,but if you are a geezer with arthritic knees and hands,and have a bad back,it can be a problem.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-03-09   9:19:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: sneakypete (#3)

You can still buy leaded gas at airports that service private prop planes.

Back at LP we had a thread on this. I, like many others, were unaware you can buy a lead solution at Amazon to add some lead to gas for vintage engines. You probably recall that thread. I seem to recall that it was you who recited a litany of reasons why some of these old engines really need lead to run properly and not tear themselves up.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-09   9:33:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: TooConservative (#4)

Back at LP we had a thread on this. I, like many others, were unaware you can buy a lead solution at Amazon to add some lead to gas for vintage engines.

You don't have to buy it at Amazon. You can buy it at any auto parts store,Wal-Mart,K-Mart,etc,etc,etc anywhere in the country. It is a standard item they stock. Look in the area where they have fuel additives like FI cleaner on the shelf.

IIRC,my local chain grocery store and Dollar General even stock it.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-03-09   17:23:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: sneakypete (#5)

You don't have to buy it at Amazon.

I was just recalling that someone linked to Amazon's product page on the earlier thread. As with many things involving memory, we tend to recall certain specific details. It's how we all "file away" our long-term memories, as compared to short- or medium-term memory.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-09   17:35:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: sneakypete, A K A Stone (#1)

On the other hand,Cruz just stepped up to the plate.

Cruz was the standout.

I think he should have gone much further. Instead of suggesting corn farmers should give up ethanol, he should have expanded his argument to them about how much more they are paying for electricity to irrigate with and for personal use due to outrageous solar/wind subsidies.

In short, don't ask the farmers to give up their ethanol subsidy and the rural towns to give up their ethanol plant jobs and still expect them to pay those higher electricity bills from scammy solar/wind prices.

The road to forced purchases of Obamacare was in many ways paved by federal forced subsidy of ethanol/solar/wind.

I have no objections to ethanol/solar/wind if you take the subsidies out and stop scamming the public. I'd like to hear Cruz and Paul and other GOP candidates come out more forcefully on this. If you can't say it on the campaign trail, you'll never pass it as president (unless you go as a lawless president like Obama has done).

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-09   19:24:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: TooConservative (#7)

Instead of suggesting corn farmers should give up ethanol, he should have expanded his argument to them about how much more they are paying for electricity to irrigate with and for personal use due to outrageous solar/wind subsidies.

He should have also talked about how ethanol is poisoning the ground water.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-03-09   19:42:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: sneakypete (#8) (Edited)

He should have also talked about how ethanol is poisoning the ground water.

And depleting at breakneck speed the Ogallala Aquifer, one of the greatest known freshwater sources.

And has directly contributed to the flood of illegals as food prices, particularly in Central/South America where corn is a major staple food, have skyrocketed as a result. While corn that has been processed for ethanol results in a mash that can be fed to cattle in feedlots, it does take a lot of corn off the market. This drives up food prices domestically and overseas.

You don't just pay more for ethanol at the pump. It drives food prices up too.

Burning corn for fuel does make a lot of sense if you want poor people in the Third World to starve.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-09   19:55:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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