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Title: 2 Nemtsov suspects detained in Russia, prompting skepticism
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Yahoo
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/russia-2-susp ... r-boris-nemtsov-092959570.html
Published: Mar 7, 2015
Author: JIM HEINTZ
Post Date: 2015-03-07 15:00:17 by Tooconservative
Keywords: Nemtsov, Putin
Views: 2331
Comments: 11
MOSCOW (AP) — Russia's security service head said two suspects in the killing of leading opposition figure Boris Nemtsov have been detained, but the short and vague announcement Saturday prompted only skepticism and weak satisfaction from his comrades. Federal Security Service director Alexander Bortnikov, in comments shown on state television, said the two suspects were from Russia's North Caucasus region, but gave no details other than their names. He said they were "suspected of carrying out this crime," but it wasn't clear if either of the suspects was believed to have fired the shots that killed Nemtsov as he and a companion walked over a bridge near the Kremlin on Feb. 27. No charges were immediately announced. Bortnikov didn't say where the detentions took place, how they were conducted or what led agents to the suspects. In a separate statement, the country's top investigative body praised "the reaching of the first successes in such a short period," but shed no further light. The lack of details appears likely to reinforce suspicions of the investigation's sincerity. Nemtsov's killing shocked Russia's already beleaguered and marginalized opposition supporters. Suspicion in the opposition is high that the killing was ordered by the Kremlin in retaliation for Nemtsov's adamant criticism of President Vladimir Putin. The 55-year-old Nemtsov was working on a report about Russian military involvement in the eastern Ukraine conflict. But Russia's top investigative body said it was investigating several possible motives, including that he was killed in an attempt to smear Putin's image. It also said it was looking into possible connections to Islamic extremism and Nemtsov's personal life. Many believe that Nemtsov's death in a tightly secured area near the Kremlin wouldn't have been possible without official involvement, and could be an attempt to scare other government foes. Putin, who had dubbed Nemtsov's killing a "provocation," made no comment on the detentions announced Saturday. One of Nemtsov's closest allies in the opposition, Ilya Yashin, said on Facebook that "It's hard to judge whether these are the real performers of if the investigation went down a false track." In any case, he said, "it's extremely important that the matter not be limited to detention of the shooters, whether these are the real killers or not. The key task is the identification and detention of who ordered" the attack. "For the time being, it's very skimpy information, which tells us little, but it's good that the first results of the investigation has appeared," another opposition leader, former Prime Minister Mikhail Kasyanov, was quoted as telling the news agency Interfax. In some previous killings of Kremlin critics, especially the murder of journalist Anna Politkovskaya in 2006, there has been wide criticism that those who ordered the killing haven't been identified or prosecuted. The North Caucasus region from which the suspects reportedly come includes Chechnya, where separatist rebels fought two wars against Russian forces over the past two decades and which now is in under the tight control of Kremlin-backed leader Ramzan Kadyrov. Kadyrov has been widely criticized for brutality against opponents, including summary executions and abductions, and is a vehement defender of Putin. He blamed Western security services for Nemtsov's killing. The suspects were identified as Anzor Gubashev and Zaur Dadaev. No further information was given about them, but opposition figures unearthed a statement from the Chechen government from 2010 in which a Zaur Dadaev was among the police troops awarded medals. Four Chechens were among the five convicted in Politkovskaya's killing, which was widely believed to be in retaliation for her criticism of Kadyrov and Russia's actions in Chechnya. Kremlin critics say the spiteful nationalist propaganda on state television, which cast Nemtsov and other liberals as Western stooges, helped prepare the ground for his killing. Nemtsov was walking with a young Ukrainian woman, Anna Duritskaya, when he was shot. The woman has returned to Ukraine after questioning by police and the state news agency RIA Novosti on Saturday quoted her lawyer Vadim Prokhorov as saying she hasn't been called back to Russia for testimony in connection with the detentions.
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#1. To: All, Pericles (#0)
Apparently, the security video of the assassination shows a vehicle with Inguishetia plates. Old Russian riddle: Maybe it loses something in translation. : )
I am not a Russia expert by any means but that joke sounds plausible in Russian one assumes.
Probably the CIA needing to work their shenanigans again as with the Ukraine last year.
It's very typical of Russian humor. They are more witty than they get credit for.
The FBI didn't start out as the Russian Orthodox State- establishment's Oprichniki Secret Police. "Andropov’s deep-cover officers propelled him onto the Kremlin throne, crowning a five-century tradition of secret samoderahaviye. That tradition started in 1564, when Ivan the Terrible began ruling the country with the help of his Oprichnina, meaning “separate court”, which was in effect a secret political police force answerable only to himself. When Peter the Great ascended to the throne at the end of the 17th century, he set up his own political police, the Preobrazhenskiy Prikaz, so secretly that the exact date of its creation is still a mystery. Peter unleashed his new instrument of power against everybody who spoke out against him, from his own wife to drunks who told jokes about his rule..."
The FBI has nothing to do with international relations other than domestic USA law enforcement; true, their research may cross international borders based on terrorism activities but the chief worldwide conspirator instigating shenanagans is the CIA.
Correct. Mostly. The comparison of the FBI with the Oprichniki is just another example of tooConvertible's ignorant flatulence. There are more accurate choices. As you've pointed out, the CIA is most comparable - with the Secret Service being an obvious runner up. But, the CIA's purposeful roots are far different than those of the Oprichniki. "AND THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE" The degree to which the organization deviates from that purpose is, and should be, a matter for moral consideration. If you think things are out of control now - wait until the transhumanist/postgenderists are driving the enterprise without opposition to their ERRORS.
Fine. These clandestine groups are pure terrorists and live under the same colour of law.
Evidently not entirely Aside from a relatively polite financial arse probing by the IRS after visiting DC to seek and speak the truth, I didn't feel as "terrorized" as, say... http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/Alexander_Litvinenko
The police state of America hasn't entirely matured to the level or sophistication that you may otherwise know; like a good wine, give it time to manifest continuous fear in America. The writing is on the wall, throughout America.
Q: A Chechen, a Dagestani, and an Inguish are riding in a car. Who is driving?
The FSB are Russia's equivalent of the FBI in America.
A: An FSB man.
#2. To: TooConservative (#1)
#3. To: TooConservative (#1)
The FSB are Russia's equivalent of the FBI in America.
#4. To: Pericles (#2)
I am not a Russia expert by any means but that joke sounds plausible in Russian one assumes.
#5. To: Pridie.Nones (#3)
The FSB are Russia's equivalent of the FBI in America.
#6. To: VxH (#5)
#7. To: Pridie.Nones (#6)
(Edited)
The FBI has nothing to do with international relations other than domestic USA law enforcement;
of whether or not his services are being used
as a means to accomplish evil ends -
and to act (or NOT) accordingly.
#8. To: VxH (#7)
But, the CIA's purposeful roots are far different than those of the Oprichniki.
#9. To: Pridie.Nones (#8)
(Edited)
Fine. These clandestine groups are pure terrorists and live under the same colour of law.
... must've felt.
#10. To: VxH (#9)
#11. To: Pridie.Nones (#10)
(Edited)
The writing is on the wall, throughout America.
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