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Title: Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God
Source: Blue Letter Bible
URL Source: http://www.blueletterbible.org/stud ... n/jonathan_edwards/sinners.cfm
Published: Mar 7, 2015
Author: Jonathan Edwards
Post Date: 2015-03-07 00:07:19 by redleghunter
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(A Sermon Preached at Enfield, July 8th, 1741 at a Time of Great Awakenings, and Attended with Remarkable Impressions on many of the Hearers.)

Their foot shall slide in due time.— Deut. 32:35.

In this verse is threatened the vengeance of God on the wicked unbelieving Israelites, who were God’s visible people, and who lived under the means of grace; but who, notwithstanding all God’s wonderful works towards them, remained (as Deut. 32:28) void of counsel, having no understanding in them. Under all the cultivations of heaven, they brought forth bitter and poisonous fruit; as in the two verses next preceding the text.—The expression I have chosen for my text, their foot shall slide in due time, seems to imply the following things, relating to the punishment and destruction to which these wicked Israelites were exposed.

1. That they were always exposed to destruction; as one that stands or walks in slippery places is always exposed to fall. This is implied in the manner of their destruction coming upon them, being represented by their foot sliding. The same is expressed, “Surely thou didst set them in slippery places; thou castedst them down into destruction (Psalm 73:18).”

2. It implies, that they were always exposed to sudden unexpected destruction. As he that walks in slippery places is every moment liable to fall, he cannot foresee one moment whether he shall stand or fall the next; and when he does fall, he falls at once without warning: Which is also expressed in “Surely thou didst set them in slippery places; thou castedst them down into destruction: How are they brought into desolation as in a moment? (Psalm 73:18-19)”

3. Another thing implied is, that they are liable to fall of themselves, without being thrown down by the hand of another; as he that stands or walks on slippery ground needs nothing but his own weight to throw him down.

4. That the reason why they are not fallen already and do not fall now is only that God’s appointed time is not come. For it is said, that when that due time, or appointed time comes, their foot shall slide. Then they shall be left to fall, as they are inclined by their own weight. God will not hold them up in these slippery places any longer, but will let them go; and then, at that very instant, they shall fall into destruction; as he that stands on such slippery declining ground, on the edge of a pit, he cannot stand alone, when he is let go he immediately falls and is lost.

The observation from the words that I would now insist upon is this.—“There is nothing that keeps wicked men at any one moment out of hell, but the mere pleasure of God.”—By the mere pleasure of God, I mean his sovereign pleasure, his arbitrary will, restrained by no obligation, hindered by no manner of difficulty, any more than if nothing else but God’s mere will had in the least degree, or in any respect whatsoever, any hand in the preservation of wicked men one moment.—The truth of this observation may appear by the following considerations.

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And now you have an extraordinary opportunity, a day wherein Christ has thrown the door of mercy wide open, and stands in calling and crying with a loud voice to poor sinners; a day wherein many are flocking to him, and pressing into the kingdom of God. Many are daily coming from the east, west, north and south; many that were very lately in the same miserable condition that you are in, are now in a happy state, with their hearts filled with love to him who has loved them, and washed them from their sins in his own blood, and rejoicing in hope of the glory of God. How awful is it to be left behind at such a day! To see so many others feasting, while you are pining and perishing! To see so many rejoicing and singing for joy of heart, while you have cause to mourn for sorrow of heart, and howl for vexation of spirit! How can you rest one moment in such a condition? Are not your souls as precious as the souls of the people at Suffield, where they are flocking from day to day to Christ? Subscribe to *Bible Study Ping*

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#2. To: redleghunter (#0)

Hellfire sermons and the very idea of hell itself -- except for Hitler and Stalin -- are increasingly unpopular over the last century.

Edwards would not be too surprised at this outcome.

Tell me, what draws people to Christianity: love of God or fear of hell?

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-07   2:51:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: TooConservative (#2)

what draws people to Christianity: love of God or fear of hell?

Some people are saved because of fear of punishment, some because of hope for reward, some because of love of God.

A Pole  posted on  2015-03-07   3:26:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A Pole, redleghunter, Liberator (#3)

Some people are saved because of fear of punishment, some because of hope for reward, some because of love of God.

Which of these means of drawing people to God do we see most clearly in scripture? We can leave aside the Pharisees and their obvious hostility to Jesus and His repeated condemnations of them as Jesus knew they were hardened enemies and scripture records none of them except Saul of Tarsus ever converting and then only by dint of a miracle on the road to Damascus where Saul was going to persecute more Christians.

Would you consider Jesus a hellfire preacher?

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-07   3:54:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: TooConservative, liberator (#4)

Would you consider Jesus a hellfire preacher?

Matthew 25.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-07   9:04:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: redleghunter (#16)

Matthew 25.

Did Edwards precisely convey or did he exceed the message of the NT in his famous sermon?

I do find proofs-by-parable to be somewhat less certain than more direct statements by Jesus and His primary apostles. They are less concrete.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-07   9:20:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: TooConservative (#19)

I do find proofs-by-parable to be somewhat less certain than more direct statements by Jesus and His primary apostles. They are less concrete.

If we want concrete, Paul gives us a mountain of such in Romans. He kicks off the first chapter of the epistle clearly pointing out judgement and Grace.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-07   9:30:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: redleghunter (#25)

If we want concrete, Paul gives us a mountain of such in Romans. He kicks off the first chapter of the epistle clearly pointing out judgement and Grace.

While Romans is Paul's masterpiece, it is still -- as with his other epistles -- a letter to a specific congregation with whom he has relations. So while we cannot dismiss Paul or the other epistles, we should place them in perspective with the rest of the NT canon.

Is the message of the Gospels a message of love or of fear?

Can a person get to heaven solely by fear-induced obedience?

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-07   9:55:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: TooConservative, redleghunter (#32)

Is the message of the Gospels a message of love or of fear?

What's your opinion?

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-07   10:05:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Liberator, A Pole, redleghunter (#36)

What's your opinion?

I think the NT tells us that love, not fear, is the key to the Pearly Gates. The chances of fear alone getting you into heaven seem pretty remote in my reading.

Love of God, leading to obeying God and loving others, is far more elevated in scripture than some mere commonplace religion of static obedience. Which was exactly the kind of religion practiced by the Pharisees and Jewish religious establishment at the time. I think that to suggest salvation is possible based on the fear of God alone misreads many direct sayings of Jesus.

Salvation by fear-alone is as suspect to me as the notion of salvation of works-alone.

You can see how I keep circling back to the Reformation. This is a fundamental problem in any discussion between Romans, Prots and Orthos, just as it was centuries back.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-07   10:33:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: TooConservative, A Pole, redleghunter (#39) (Edited)

Nice explanation, TC.

Salvation by fear-alone is as suspect to me as the notion of salvation of works-alone.

Fair point, but in Edwards' defense, he seemed to be appealing to an option and realization that for some he needed to push the START button. For others, it caused pause enough to hit the, 'MAINTAIN WARP-FACTOR 9, MR. SULU!'

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-07   10:58:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Liberator, redleghunter, A Pole (#42)

Fair point, but in Edwards' defense, he seemed to be appealing to an option and realization that for some he ndeeded to push the START button. For others, it caused pause enough to hit the, 'MAINTAIN WARP-FACTOR 9, MR. SULU!'

My point is that this one sermon does not really represent the entirety of the message of the New Testament canon. Jonathan Edwards might, were he still around, explain that his message was directed toward a particular congregation and their laxity and complacency. And he might defend it on the same grounds as those we would justify Paul's various epistles (other than Romans perhaps) to address problems and errors and rising heresies in local churches which Paul established or among whom he had a considerable reputation as an apostolic authority despite the fact that he was not a personal disciple of Jesus.

In short: Christianity is vastly more carrot than stick.

Dang, I'm going to run out of hoary worn-out clichés at this rate.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-07   11:05:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: TooConservative, liberator (#45)

My point is that this one sermon does not really represent the entirety of the message of the New Testament canon. Jonathan Edwards might, were he still around, explain that his message was directed toward a particular congregation and their laxity and complacency. And he might defend it on the same grounds as those we would justify Paul's various epistles (other than Romans perhaps) to address problems and errors and rising heresies in local churches which Paul established or among whom he had a considerable reputation as an apostolic authority despite the fact that he was not a personal disciple of Jesus.

A fair assessment.

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