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Title: Why I would never work for Global Aerospace Logistics under any circumstances.
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Published: Mar 6, 2015
Author: A K A Stone
Post Date: 2015-03-06 09:55:41 by A K A Stone
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Comments: 13

They have had at least one person you arrested for complaining about them.

That is enough reason that I would never work for that company. Not that I could anyway.

NEVER NEVER NEVER!

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/...cebook-posts-job-land-US- contractor-Emirates-jail.html

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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

That is enough reason to never work for that company.

You mean, other than the fact they pay 2-3 times as much as you could make in the States?

You want American freedom of speech? Stay in America.

BTW, keep in mind how easy it is to get sued for libel in our ally Great Britain, supposedly a Western democracy. And truth is no defense in many such cases there.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-06   10:22:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: A K A Stone, TooConservative, CZ82 (#0)

Would like to know the contract a bit better for this company. Also, if a US military contract those civilians are usually under some sort of SOFA agreement. Unless for cases of murder, rape etc. or such felony type crimes.

That is why being an overseas employee (especially in Muslim lands) it is important to read the fine print.

We had a missile repair service representative contractor who got in some hot water in Kuwait. We were in Iraq but kept him in Kuwait so he could handle our maintenance depot level parts requests. He had his wife visit him in Kuwait. After a long flight she had a bad headache and wanted some Tylenol. Now this guy could have just gone on any of the 4 US Army bases in Kuwait went to the PX and get his wife Tylenol. No, instead he went into a Kuwaiti pharmacy asking for Tylenol. The pharmacist was polite and told him she needed a doctor's prescription for any 'drugs' even Tylenol. Of course genius boy decided to argue with the pharmacist and then the Kuwaiti cops were called. Of course the smartest thing he did was call a US Army officer to the site and good news is the Kuwaiti cop waited for him. Cooler heads prevailed but the cop insisted he needed to see a Kuwaiti doctor get a prescription and return to the pharmacist. The Army officer (did not know him at the time) was smart enough not to suggest to just let the contractor go and get it at the Army base. If he suggested such, both would have probably been arrested. So genius boy ended up spending about $200 USD on a five minute visit to a Kuwaiti doctor and then spent another $40 USD for 30 count Tylenol we can get at the corner store.

Just a minor type incident which shows when you are working in a foreign country you better know even the most little nuances.

The Army of course does a much better job of helping Troops avoid these circumstances. Issuing specific general orders helps a lot to avoid these instances.

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-06   10:57:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: TooConservative (#1)

You want American freedom of speech? Stay in America.

Yes that is the failure of not reading the fine print in those contracts. You have folks who only look at the vast compensation package of 2-3Xs their US salary (and some huge tax breaks too!) not knowing they are no longer in Kansas Toto.

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-06   11:06:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: redleghunter (#2)

We had a missile repair service representative contractor who got in some hot water in Kuwait.

Nice anecdote. Most people seem to somehow blithely assume these Islamic hellholes, however wealthy, are like visiting some European spa and you can just do whatever you like.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-06   11:44:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: TooConservative (#4)

Nice anecdote. Most people seem to somehow blithely assume these Islamic hellholes, however wealthy, are like visiting some European spa and you can just do whatever you like.

Well there are areas where the authorities do no harass 'tourists'. Bahrain is one. One only has to go to where all the Saudis go in Bahrain to break every Qur'an edict and see no morality police there.

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-06   12:05:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: redleghunter (#5)

Even the Saudis have sharply curtailed their morality police in the last few years (along with guaranteed female representation in legislature and moves toward letting Saudi women drive). Whether the Saudi succession will mean these policies will continue is another matter. The Saudis revert to dogmatic Wahhabism by default, it seems.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-06   12:13:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: redleghunter (#5) (Edited)

Well there are areas where the authorities do not harass 'tourists'.

UAE isn't one of them. The Brits even mounted an official campaign to warn their own citizens against misbehaving in UAE.

WTOP, 2014: Britain’s message for UAE visit: Nice, not naughty

This prosecution of a Westerner in UAE is far from an isolated case. Since this guy lived there long enough to own a car and apartment, he could not have somehow thought the First Amendment protected him so unconditionally. He should have known better than to go back after badmouthing a powerful UAE company. Or just waited until he quit and got out before badmouthing them. He's going to learn a very expensive lesson about this.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-06   13:57:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: TooConservative (#7)

This prosecution of a Westerner in UAE is far from an isolated case. Since this guy lived there long enough to own a car and apartment, he could not have somehow thought the First Amendment protected him so unconditionally. He should have known better than to go back after badmouthing a powerful UAE company. Or just waited until he quit and got out before badmouthing them. He's going to learn a very expensive lesson about this.

Bad mouthing your boss in the US on social media is not a good idea either. Sure we have the freedom to do so here, but the boss also has the freedom to fire that person.

But yes, something tells me this guy should have known better. His best defense is that his physical condition led him to his comments. Apologies work over there too.

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-06   14:16:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: redleghunter (#8)

I have to admit that I'm just lacking in sympathy all around.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-06   14:49:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: redleghunter (#8)

Bad mouthing your boss in the US on social media is not a good idea either. Sure we have the freedom to do so here, but the boss also has the freedom to fire that person.

Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

Pridie.Nones  posted on  2015-03-06   20:57:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: TooConservative (#1)

That is enough reason to never work for that company.

You mean, other than the fact they pay 2-3 times as much as you could make in the States?

There are things in life more important than money. Self-respect and living free to make your own decisions,to name two.

Any company that has "Global" in the name is NOT your friend,but a servant of the state.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-03-06   23:46:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: sneakypete (#11)

Any company that has "Global" in the name is NOT your friend,but a servant of the state.

Corporations like to go multinational with the intent of escaping the control of any nation and its laws.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-07   2:08:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: TooConservative (#12)

Corporations like to go multinational with the intent of escaping the control of any nation and its laws.

Close,but one step short of the target.

They want to BECOME the governments of nations they own and control in order to create their own laws.

While avoiding all that troublesome "public voting nonsense",of course.

That doesn't mean that corporations are evil artificial beings. They are artificial beings,and they are either evil or useful depending on the human beings that control them. And make no mistake about it,they need to be controlled by law,and the people writing these laws need to be put into office by the PUBLIC,not the corporate board.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-03-07   6:02:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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