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Title: W.Va. Senate OKs bill to allow concealed carry without permit
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The Charleston Gazette
URL Source: http://www.wvgazette.com/article/20150227/GZ01/150229285
Published: Mar 3, 2015
Author: Eric Eyre
Post Date: 2015-03-03 18:58:33 by Hondo68
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Keywords: inherent right, God given CCW, natural rights
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Senators approved a bill Friday that could make West Virginia the sixth state to allow residents to carry a concealed firearm without a permit. After reading aloud from the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, senators voted 32-2 for a bill (SB347) that allows people 18 and older to tote concealed guns. “The bill eliminates the crime of carrying a concealed weapon in West Virginia,” said Sen. Charles Trump, R-Morgan. The legislation next goes to the House of Delegates. Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Vermont and Wyoming are the only states that allow residents to carry a hidden gun without a permit. West Virginia already allows open carry of a handgun without a permit. West Virginia law enforcement officials have expressed concern about the bill. They said the legislation could put officers more at risk. They also noted that the weapons-permit fees generate funds for sheriff’s departments across the state. Last year, the permits raised $3.4 million for the departments. However, senators who supported the bill kept coming back to the Second Amendment. “This is a United States constitutional right,” said Robert Karnes, R-Upshur. “The Second Amendment recognizes this inherent right.” Sens. Corey Palumbo, D-Kanawha, and Ron Miller, D-Greenbrier, voted against the bill. Sen. Mike Romano, D-Harrison, supported the concealed-carry permit repeal, but first offered what he called “common-sense” revisions that his colleagues ultimately rejected. Romano wanted to require that residents be at least 21 years old before they could carry a handgun without a permit. “To carry a .357 Magnum, we really should require them to be 21 years of age,” Romano said. But other senators said a 21-and-up age limit was “arbitrary.” “At the age of 18, we’re talking about parents of small children,” Karnes said. “And we’re going to say an 18-year-old who is able to enter into the contract of marriage, to have children, is not responsible enough to defend the family that he has?” Romano also wanted to require people to take a handgun safety course before they could carry a concealed weapon. Karnes argued that the training requirement was a “backdoor licensing scheme,” and senators voted down the amendment. Romano later voted for the bill that didn’t include any of his suggested changes. “I concluded long ago that the permitting process through the sheriff’s department is simply a hurdle for law-abiding citizens who carry a gun,” Romano said. “Criminals will carry a gun regardless of the process.”
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#41. To: hondo68, GrandIsland, tpaine, redleghunter (#0)
So what would you think of a mandatory one time class that would teach you how to carry and use a handgun responsibly? Especially the legal aspects of your actions if you have to use it. There are some people out there who have no clue whatsoever and would be more dangerous to innocents than to bad guys.
There are some people out there who have no clue whatsoever and would be more dangerous to innocents than to bad guys. I think everyone if they have one brain cell, should take a certified NRA safety and shooting class. It's just responsible gun ownership and citizenship. Did I say mandatory? No! Just responsible. Especially for those who have not handled guns in their civilian, military or law enforcement lives. Nothing worse than some idiot who just got a 'new toy' going around like John Wayne.
Many states have training for all young people getting hunting licenses. Like between ages 10 to 30. Above 30, they don't have to take the class. To actually hunt, a 10yo has to be accompanied by a trained hunter who is certified and is at least 18yo and he can only take out one apprentice hunter at a time. I find this a little restrictive but most states that go in this direction have very few complaints. Often, these classes are conducted by local sheriffs or deputies for free or for a modest fee. Some states have the same kind of system for bow certification and apprentice hunting for young bow hunters. I recall a friend of mine and how he bragged that his daughter out-scored and out-shot the dozen 10yo boys that she took the class with. But then, I also recalled her at age seven walking around in her little purple eyeglasses with her favorite dolly in one hand and her .22 rifle in the other, out to hunt with her dad. Couldn't have been any cuter.
#47. To: TooConservative (#46)
We need more young ladies like!
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestSenators approved a bill Friday that could make West Virginia the sixth state to allow residents to carry a concealed firearm without a permit.
#43. To: CZ82, hondo68, GrandIsland, tpaine (#41)
So what would you think of a mandatory one time class that would teach you how to carry and use a handgun responsibly? Especially the legal aspects of your actions if you have to use it.
#46. To: redleghunter, GrandIsland (#43)
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I think everyone if they have one brain cell, should take a certified NRA safety and shooting class. It's just responsible gun ownership and citizenship. Did I say mandatory? No! Just responsible. Especially for those who have not handled guns in their civilian, military or law enforcement lives.
Replies to Comment # 46. But then, I also recalled her at age seven walking around in her little purple eyeglasses with her favorite dolly in one hand and her .22 rifle in the other, out to hunt with her dad. Couldn't have been any cuter.
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