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Title: W.Va. Senate OKs bill to allow concealed carry without permit
Source: The Charleston Gazette
URL Source: http://www.wvgazette.com/article/20150227/GZ01/150229285
Published: Mar 3, 2015
Author: Eric Eyre
Post Date: 2015-03-03 18:58:33 by Hondo68
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Keywords: inherent right, God given CCW, natural rights
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Senators approved a bill Friday that could make West Virginia the sixth state to allow residents to carry a concealed firearm without a permit.

After reading aloud from the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, senators voted 32-2 for a bill (SB347) that allows people 18 and older to tote concealed guns.

“The bill eliminates the crime of carrying a concealed weapon in West Virginia,” said Sen. Charles Trump, R-Morgan.

The legislation next goes to the House of Delegates.

Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Vermont and Wyoming are the only states that allow residents to carry a hidden gun without a permit.

West Virginia already allows open carry of a handgun without a permit.

West Virginia law enforcement officials have expressed concern about the bill. They said the legislation could put officers more at risk. They also noted that the weapons-permit fees generate funds for sheriff’s departments across the state. Last year, the permits raised $3.4 million for the departments.

However, senators who supported the bill kept coming back to the Second Amendment.

“This is a United States constitutional right,” said Robert Karnes, R-Upshur. “The Second Amendment recognizes this inherent right.”

Sens. Corey Palumbo, D-Kanawha, and Ron Miller, D-Greenbrier, voted against the bill.

Sen. Mike Romano, D-Harrison, supported the concealed-carry permit repeal, but first offered what he called “common-sense” revisions that his colleagues ultimately rejected.

Romano wanted to require that residents be at least 21 years old before they could carry a handgun without a permit.

“To carry a .357 Magnum, we really should require them to be 21 years of age,” Romano said.

But other senators said a 21-and-up age limit was “arbitrary.”

“At the age of 18, we’re talking about parents of small children,” Karnes said. “And we’re going to say an 18-year-old who is able to enter into the contract of marriage, to have children, is not responsible enough to defend the family that he has?”

Romano also wanted to require people to take a handgun safety course before they could carry a concealed weapon. Karnes argued that the training requirement was a “backdoor licensing scheme,” and senators voted down the amendment.

Romano later voted for the bill that didn’t include any of his suggested changes.

“I concluded long ago that the permitting process through the sheriff’s department is simply a hurdle for law-abiding citizens who carry a gun,” Romano said. “Criminals will carry a gun regardless of the process.” (1 image)

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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)

They also noted that the weapons-permit fees generate funds for sheriff’s departments across the state. Last year, the permits raised $3.4 million for the departments.

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Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-03   19:07:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: TooConservative, Department of Homieland inSecurity (#1)

the weapons-permit fees generate funds for sheriff’s departments across the state

Isn't that something like a slave renting their freedom?

But they're still in the slave catcher database (Utah data center/DHS).

Hondo68  posted on  2015-03-03   19:21:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: hondo68 (#3)

Isn't that something like a slave renting their freedom?

Sounds a little like paying higher taxes (than almost anywhere else) for the honor of living in California.

What state do you live in?

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-03-03   19:24:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: GrandIsland (#4)

What state do you live in?

The California Republic. No CCW fees here. Everything is illegal, which is the same thing as nothing being illegal or enforceable.

It sucks, tell all of your friends. The good news is... most retired NY fags move somewhere else.

Hondo68  posted on  2015-03-03   20:18:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: hondo68 (#8)

most retired NY fags

That's right... California has the highest populations of fruits and nuts... you don't need any NY fags. Hell, your nazi metropolis even has cornered the market on serial killers.

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-03-03   20:27:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: GrandIsland (#9)

Hell, your nazi metropolis even has cornered the market on serial killers.

I give up.. Which California "nazi metropolis --- has cornered the market on serial killers"?

tpaine  posted on  2015-03-03   20:58:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: tpaine (#11)

You gotta stop defending that shithole.

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-03-03   21:16:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: GrandIsland (#13) (Edited)

You gotta stop defending that shithole.

The State itself is not a shithole.

The people that are trying to run it are... Most of our politicians are majority rule authoritarian socialists, --- a lot like your buddies here on LF.

Don't give me anymore of your SPIN

I don't post spin. You just can't handle the truth.

tpaine  posted on  2015-03-03   21:42:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#19. To: tpaine (#18)

The State itself is not a shithole.

Ranks top 5 in highest taxes

High crime

Huge huge huge state debt... lots of red

Ranks among highest in gangs, illegals.

High welfare, homeless and unemployment

Worst statist gun laws and ammo bans. Shit, even Glock Gen 3's and 4's are outlawed. Thumbhole stocks... 50 calibers.

Let's face it. It's a lost cause... it's like New York but with cold weather, earthquakes and smelly hippies.

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-03-03 21:57:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: tpaine (#18) (Edited)

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/XTmyXIf.jpg[/IMG]

You just can't handle the truth.

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