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Title: You can get free pancakes at IHOP today
Source: USA Today
URL Source: http://www.usatoday.com/story/money ... national-pancake-day/24302807/
Published: Mar 3, 2015
Author: Jessica Durando
Post Date: 2015-03-03 08:18:01 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 6014
Comments: 37

Don't flip out. But this Tuesday could be better than your last.

Breakfast lovers can get free pancakes today at IHOP restaurants as part of the restaurant chain's National Pancake Day festivities.

And naturally #NationalPancakeDay is trending on Twitter in the U.S.

IHOP started offering free pancakes in 2006 and has raised nearly $16 million for charities, according to the company.

This year, the goal is to raise $3.5 million with more than 1,500 stores participating.

How does it work?

Customers can receive a free short stack of Buttermilk pancakes and if they are so inclined leave a donation for Children's Miracle Network Hospitals or other charities associated with IHOP. Only folks that dine-in are eligible.

"Little did we dream, ten years ago, that thanks to the generosity of our guests, we would be able to raise $16 million dollars, one short stack at a time, and make a substantial difference in the lives of the children in our local communities," said Julia Stewart, interim president of International House of Pancakes, LLC.

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#1. To: Willie Green (#0)

They have a website for this: http://www.ihoppancakeday.com/.

The photo:

The picture shows 16 pancakes and the fine print tells you that you only get three rather tiny pancakes. Probably costs IHOP about 15¢ to lure people through the doors with this come-on.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-03   8:47:41 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Willie Green (#0)

BTW, this might well be a complete scam by IHOP. They may raise and eventually deliver the money to the charity as claimed but they might take a year or more to actually deliver the money.

In the meantime, they have the money you gave them for charity to use as an interest-free loan.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-03   8:53:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: TooConservative (#2)

...this might well be a complete scam by IHOP...

Yes, it may be a good PR stunt -
but boy are you negative!

It's a worthy cause, right?
So worthy that I WAS going to go to IHOP,
have a cup of coffee (which I would PAY for),
make a donation, and skip the pancakes.
(They'd raise my blood sugar too much -
diabetic - I can't eat them - regardless of how
much I LIKE them.)

But no, I will follow your Scrooge-lead and forget
about it. Okay? Sheesh...

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-03-03   13:31:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Chuck_Wagon (#3)

But no, I will follow your Scrooge-lead and forget about it. Okay? Sheesh...

So I am to blame that you can't go eat 3 tiny pancakes (and other stuff you'd buy at IHOP to go with it). And you really resent it. Fine.

Most people don't grasp how charities in America have become such total scams. Many spend more than half of what they raise on ever more advertising and nagging their donors into giving more until the donors get sick of them and then they sell their names and addresses and donation history to other scamming charities. Meanwhile, the top staff of these operations live like kings with first-class air travel and luxury hotels, charity-owned condos in Vail and Aspen, and salaries in the hundreds of thousands. What, all because they're qualified enough to make a few tearjerker commercials and run an operation by hiring a number of mailing-list experts?

Rebate programs work the same way. You pay more, they get to use your money for free until they get around to mailing you a rebate check. And they can dink around on doing that as well in many states, claim they lost the paperwork, etc.

And the churches do get in on the act as well.

There are only a few real charities left in the country.

BTW, you do realize this is almost certainly why Shatner couldn't cancel so he could attend Nimoy's funeral. He wasn't there for charity, he was there for a paycheck from the Red Cross, the same Red Cross that pays millions to its executives and has its big lodges in Vail, etc.

They aren't charities any more. They're just tax-exempt businesses. What they are selling is letting you feel good about yourself, however little of the advertised purpose of the charity is ever accomplished.

Other than in states that have more restrictive laws, it is generally legal in America to spend less than 10% of the take from any charity for the declared charitable purpose.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-03   14:54:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: TooConservative (#4)

Most people don't grasp how charities in America have become such total scams.

I tend to agree with you in general.

I see these SPCA commercials that I can't watch because I'm a pet lover.

I see these TV adverts for charities for vets with missing arms and legs and ask myself why don't their military benefits and health care cover this through our tax dollars and systems.

Here is one I'm trying to comprehend. Goodwill. Everything they get is free/donated, so their markup is infinity. I window shop there once a month or so and have purchased nice clothing for a few bucks each. Now they are promoting some sort of employment application training with computers to help unemployed folks find work. My gf thinks they are thieves for charging $2K for a mink stole they paid nothing for. I'm not sure. Your thoughts?

I give to my local church and have learned to politely say no to cold telephone calls.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-03-03   15:05:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Fred Mertz, Chuck_Wagon (#5) (Edited)

Here is one I'm trying to comprehend. Goodwill. Everything they get is free/donated, so their markup is infinity. I window shop there once a month or so and have purchased nice clothing for a few bucks each. Now they are promoting some sort of employment application training with computers to help unemployed folks find work. My gf thinks they are thieves for charging $2K for a mink stole they paid nothing for. I'm not sure. Your thoughts?

You and your girlfriend are entirely correct. It is nothing more than a tax-free business shielding itself from taxes by pretending to be a charity.

Then we get to how the ultra-wealthy use their foundations to launder money tax-free to their kids. Like the Xlintons. Billy and Hilly each put their half of the house in Chappaqua into a foundation, then they gave it tax-free to Chelsea and now they pay her rent to live in their own house. Warren Buffet does the same kind of thing despite all his billions.

Hopefully, Chuck won't be too offended that I mentioned these charity scams.

BTW, do you recall how charities decades back would ask for $10 or $15 or $25 per year? Then it became standard to go for $35 a year and you might get a bit of merchandise or a magazine or quarterly report. Then they started foundations and started begging people to include them in their wills. Now many of them have gone to a straight $19 a month. They won't even ask for anything less than that. Apparently, $19 a month in charities is like selling a used car for $9,995 and the price point is determined using the same metrics and the same consultants.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-03   15:21:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Fred Mertz (#5)

Now they are promoting some sort of employment application training with computers to help unemployed folks find work.

Almost forgot this. They almost certainly get paid stipends by your state to run those programs for the state. They get paid per head and for completion of training milestones.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-03   15:45:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: TooConservative, Fred Mertz (#4)

...such total scams...

Yes I'll go along with many - or even most -
being total scams, and I'm still receiving
appeals in the mail - my late father's mail -
from many of them.

I find it hard to believe that 'Feed The Children',
and the 'American Bible Society' are 'Total Scams'.

Maybe I'm a chicken ready to be plucked, eh?

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-03-03   15:52:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Chuck_Wagon, sneakypete (#8)

Well, if it feels good do it.

Last year an elderly lady friend passed away - a real saint. She had two or three charities mentioned in her obit. I gave to the local animal shelter, in her memory.

When Goldi-lox passed away I gave to that Florida animal rescue that took in her cat and found it a home - allegedly. sneakypete recommended it.

So, I guess, I'm sometimes a sucker...or a soft touch.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-03-03   15:58:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Chuck_Wagon (#8)

The single best way to Feed The Children around the world would be to abolish the ethanol program entirely. It has directly caused dramatic rises in corn prices, a staple food of the Americas and elsewhere. And the high prices for corn distort the market and demand for other grains globally.

Wiki: staple foods

I don't know the American Bible Society but there are a number of free bible orgs out there, producing bibles in every language. So ABS is like a lot of other old-time denominational bible societies. Looking at the ABS website, I see bibles for sale, many low-cost but some insanely overpriced.

Look at these rather crappy bibles they sell in the $300-$400 price range. Look at what they're offering on that page and try to tell me they aren't scamming the public.

There are people who seem to collect a lot of different bibles, almost like a compulsion they have. Some have 10-20 bibles on the shelf or around the house. I've never understood why they need so many. If they have more money, they go for the illustrated ones with leather bindings (with fine Corinthian leather that would impress even Ricardo Montalban).

I'm not a fan of fancy bibles. I do like the extensive study bibles a lot more but I mostly use the free electronic bibles on computer or tablet or cellphone now. America is actually drowning in excess bibles. I suspect most of the rest of the world is too other than in the more obscure languages in the Third World.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-03   16:23:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Fred Mertz (#9)

Well, if it feels good do it.

By all means. As long as you understand that you are quite often just making yourself feel good.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-03   16:24:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Chuck_Wagon (#3) (Edited)

skip the pancakes. (They'd raise my blood sugar too much - diabetic - I can't eat them - regardless of how much I LIKE them.)

They now have sugar-free maple syrup that is pretty damn good.

Yeah,you still have the sugar from the bread to deal with,but unless you are a raging Type 1 diabetic,you can get away with eating a small stack of pancakes,french toast,or waffles occasionally.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-03-03   16:25:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Fred Mertz (#5)

My gf thinks they are thieves for charging $2K for a mink stole they paid nothing for. I'm not sure. Your thoughts?

You didn't ask me,but MY thoughts are if the coat isn't a good buy at 2 grand,she shouldn't buy it.

I also think it is faulty logic to demand someone,even a charity,sell you something for far less than market value just because it was donated to them.

Would you demand someone that inherited a house from their parents sell it to you for 100 bucks because they got it "for free"?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-03-03   16:29:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Chuck_Wagon (#3)

They'd raise my blood sugar too much

Do you sometimes make the Buckwheat pancakes? Less carbs in those FWIK.

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-03   16:32:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: TooConservative (#10)

Okay.
I always thought that the high-priced corn alcohol
was high priced. But I've never bought a $300 Bible.

An Aramaic / Greek / English one for under $100 yes -
but $300 is right out.

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-03-03   16:34:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: sneakypete (#13)

I also think it is faulty logic to demand someone,even a charity,sell you something for far less than market value just because it was donated to them.

That's why poor people like me shop there. And my friends too. Walk in a Goodwill or thrift shop and see. Actually, you'll see a few nice vehicles in the parking lot.

My friend's wife volunteers at the local soup kitchen once a week. She sees nice cars and well off seniors - freeloading. It's a no question asked operation.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-03-03   16:34:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Fred Mertz (#9)

When Goldi-lox passed away I gave to that Florida animal rescue that took in her cat and found it a home - allegedly. sneakypete recommended it.

Fred,rest assured that I accurately reported what the animal shelter told me when I contacted them and tried to adopt Goldi's cat myself.

The animal shelter didn't suggest I or anyone else donate to them,either. It was the system op at LP that suggested people might want to donate to them in Goldi's name,and I did so myself.

When I die,half of my estate goes to juvenile diabetes research and treatment,and the other half goes to Feline Hope. I know the local Feline Hope isn't a scam because I have dealings with them on a semi-regular basis,and know for a fact it is ran by volunteers. As for the juvenile diabetes research and treatment goes,all I can do is hope a decent percentage of what is donated there in my name does somebody some good. All I know for a fact is I will be dead and not a dime of that money would help me in any way,so even if only 1 percent of my donation helps someone,that beats the hell out of 0 percent going there.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-03-03   16:35:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: TooConservative (#10)

The single best way to Feed The Children around the world would be to abolish the ethanol program entirely. It has directly caused dramatic rises in corn prices, a staple food of the Americas and elsewhere. And the high prices for corn distort the market and demand for other grains globally.

It also poisons the water tables.

It is nothing but a welfare program for corporate farmers.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-03-03   16:36:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: sneakypete (#17)

Fred,rest assured that I accurately reported what the animal shelter told me

No doubt whatsoever.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-03-03   16:38:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Fred Mertz (#16)

That's why poor people like me shop there. And my friends too.

Me,too. I buy a lot of used books there,as well as clothes and household appliances. I bought my couch there for 40 bucks,and my very nice toaster for 3 bucks.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-03-03   16:39:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Willie Green (#0)

You can get free pancakes at IHOP today

Can IHOP on this deal?

Percy Misanthrope  posted on  2015-03-03   16:39:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Fred Mertz, GarySpFc, *Military or Vets Affairs* (#5)

I see these TV adverts for charities for vets with missing arms and legs and ask myself why don't their military benefits and health care cover this through our tax dollars and systems.

Max VA disability at 100% gets a Vet in the ballpark of $36K a year. They do get full VA medical coverage as well. Also if their condition worsens, they get priority at VA nursing homes and assisted living.

$36K a year won't buy you a ramp accessible or handicapped accessible home nor will it support a family if the Vet is married with kidos.

What I don't know and maybe others in the Vet community can chime in on is if such a severely disabled Vet gets other government assistance from SS admin in addition to their VA disability. I'm thinking they don't. The only Vets who can live on 100% disability with a family to support (rates are adjusted a few bucks here and there based on dependents) are Vets who have a military retirement pension as well. Now most severely disabled Vets from OIF and OEF were medically retired regardless of years in service. 20 years is when a military type gets 50% of their base salary as a pension. It increases 2.5% every year after 20 years. However, the younger Vets with only 3-10 years in do not get 50%. They get an equivalent for time in service.

So a SPC (E4)(in his or her young 20s) at 100% VA disability along with a military retirement medical board assessment may take home $45K a year if they are lucky. Not much in supporting a family even in Texas or Florida etc.

That is where the charities kick in. Getting those devices and home assistance items the VA does not pay for. Also helping the spouse find a job, which is difficult given the Vet needs assistance and that costs money. Charities and military private organizations like AUSA provide scholarships to the children of disabled Vets if his/her 9/11 GI Bill does not cover the cost.

Hope this helps. Older Vets with a mature pension of over 20 or more years do a lot better with the offset of costs.

Another consideration is some of these young soldiers who will never work again based on their war wounds are uninsurable for life insurance. Most were too young to consider life insurance and the VA will only cover them so far after discharge.

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-03   16:47:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Fred Mertz (#16)

My friend's wife volunteers at the local soup kitchen once a week. She sees nice cars and well off seniors - freeloading. It's a no question asked operation.

Remember when the government was giving away free cheese? I couldn't believe all the Cadillacs and Lincolns parked all up and down both sides of the highway as the SS crowd showed up for the freebies between rounds of bridge and golf.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-03-03   16:51:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Chuck_Wagon, Fred Mertz (#15)

I always thought that the high-priced corn alcohol was high priced. But I've never bought a $300 Bible.

Maybe they still do some great work in poor countries with languages we never heard of but I'd take a dim view of them, judging just by that one page in their online store.

The bible societies were a staple of the nineteenth century Prot denominations to support translations and foreign missions. What we see today are the remnants of those operations.

I notice ads on Fox News where they are trying to revive Shriners for the usual $19 a month. But are there any actual Shriners left alive? My grandfather was a Shriner, helped with the circus and other charity stuff and there was a large and active local group. Today, I don't think there is a Shriner left around here. Huge decline in membership with no new recruits. The Masons are dying off too as are the local Knights of Columbus AFAIK. Also the Elks, Eagles, Lions who once played a vital role in these towns.

But someone seems to have gotten hold of the almost-forgotten Shriners brand name. Maybe the Shriners hospital administrators are trying their hand at the charities industry.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-03   17:00:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: redleghunter (#22) (Edited)

$36K a year won't buy you a ramp accessible or handicapped accessible home nor will it support a family if the Vet is married with kidos.

I don't know what the numbers are,but I do know that 100 percent disabled vets with dependents get more than single vets like me.

I suspect this is also true of service-connected disabled vets rated at less than 100 percent,but more than 30 percent disabled.

I have no problem with that at all. They need more money than single people.

I also know the VA has special grant programs to buy handicapped vehicles or convert your existing vehicle,and they also give out grants for home modifications. All this is in addition to your monthy disability check.

I am as critical of the VA as anybody,but I have to give them credit for being on the ball when it comes to special expenses related to the disability.

What I don't know and maybe others in the Vet community can chime in on is if such a severely disabled Vet gets other government assistance from SS admin in addition to their VA disability.

Yes,we do.I am on SS,and get the same SS check I would get if I weren't a 100 percent service-connected disabled vet. Before I turned 65 I was receiving SS disability in addition to my VA check. This was at a reduced rate compared to normal SS retirement. I got a pretty substantial raise once I turned 65 and qualified for the full payment.

I am not going to say how much I get each month or year,but I will note that just like with everyone else,how much you get isn't as important as how much it takes you to live. If you drink,gamble,are a junky,or insist on living beyond your means,no amount of money will be enough.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-03-03   17:01:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: redleghunter (#14)

Do you sometimes make the Buckwheat pancakes?

Yes - waffles.
Thanks for reminding me.

It's been a while now, actually.

And I do have a waffle maker - that WAS
top of the line - when I bought the
thing. I can't find a picture of the
thing online - probably too old.
It's a Cuisinart. It's in the basement.
Gotta go get it. Thanks!

Those were good waffles.

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-03-03   17:05:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: redleghunter (#22)

That is where the charities kick in. Getting those devices and home assistance items the VA does not pay for.

And yet Wounded Warriors, the big outfit, was recently revealed as spending only 56% of its take on anything connected to veterans.

Some vets complained that they went to them for help and all they got was a T-shirt or a cap.

They do have the outings with the treaded rugged-terrain wheelchairs and some handicapped skiing (some competing ski service is also provided by civvy orgs and the ski industry itself). And I read something about WW opening up some ski lodge (or at least a mountain lodge) that had a multi-million dollar price tag. If it isn't open yet, it will be this year according to the article.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-03   17:06:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: sneakypete (#25)

If you drink,gamble,are a junky,or insist on living beyond your means,no amount of money will be enough.

Very true.

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-03   17:07:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Chuck_Wagon (#26)

Buckwheat waffles? Now I will have to try that.

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-03   17:09:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: TooConservative (#27)

And I read something about WW opening up some ski lodge

I really think building a ski lodge is misdirecting funds that could be spent on more practical assistance.

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-03   17:10:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: redleghunter (#22)

I appreciate your perspective.

I think Jiminy Carter's Habitat for Humanity is very worthy cause FWIW. They have ReStores now which I check out on occasion.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-03-03   17:12:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: TooConservative (#24)

The Masons are dying off too...

My maternal grandfather was a Mason - died in the 1980s.
The old Mason guys came and did a ritual over his casket.
I don't think it was a good thing.

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-03-03   17:17:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: sneakypete (#18)

It also poisons the water tables.

And drains the Ogallala Aquifier, one of the world's largest freshwater sources.

It is nothing but a welfare program for corporate farmers.

While they do cash in (and at far higher rates than small farmers do), don't forget the pivot manufacturers and irrigation people. And outfits like John Deere who are possibly the largest single beneficiary, next to the slimy corporate ethanol operators and their sleazy investors.

I live in corn country. You can imagine how popular my opinion is around here.     : )

BTW, they really could care less if they leave a desert with poisoned groundwater for future generations. What did the future ever do for them anyway? LOL.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-03   17:20:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: redleghunter (#29) (Edited)

Buckwheat waffles? Now I will have to try that.

No reason not to. They're good!

EDIT:

Just add a wee bit more baking powder. Eh?

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-03-03   17:20:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: sneakypete (#23)

Remember when the government was giving away free cheese?

I do. I was in charge of the Wisconsin delivery. The cheeseheads became so dangerous that we had to stand at the Illinois border and roll cheese wheels into that insane asylum.

Percy Misanthrope  posted on  2015-03-03   17:31:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: redleghunter (#30)

I really think building a ski lodge is misdirecting funds that could be spent on more practical assistance.

Apparently, this new one is a very large mountain lodge. They also have their first project still running, a big rural place with multiple lodges and cabins. I think it is in Virginia. I can't recall for sure but I think it was for families that needed to stay close to Walter Reed or some other big hospital, like for outpatients who needed a place. Which does seem legit enough.

WW also does a certain number of houses fully equipped for paraplegics. I've seen vids and they looked very very luxurious. Then they stopped showing those homes in their vids and it made me wonder if they realized it didn't look so good to donors.

WW has some odd commercials when you look closely at how they sell their "product". Is the one with the weeping wife more effective than the ones where a vet suggests he would (or will) kill himself if it wasn't for WW? Is it risky in some parts of the country to include the black veteran? And how about the former country-western singer with his mournful song about "Say a prayer for peace"? Of course, if people actually did pray for and demand peace, we wouldn't have much need for WW. What we hear instead are constant calls for war by deranged and emotionally disturbed people like McStain and Lady Lindsey. And no one ever asks them about why the wars they demanded turn out so badly for the local brown people and our own soldiers. Like in Iraq and Af-Pak, both utter failures.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-03   17:39:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: sneakypete (#23)

Remember when the government was giving away free cheese?

Anyone who lived near the reservations learned not to answer the door when the monthly cheese dole was handed out.

Naturally, they wanted to sell you their cheese so they could buy some firewater.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-03   17:42:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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