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Title: Booting from flash drive (Win 7 - XP)
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Published: Mar 2, 2015
Author: Chuck_Wagon
Post Date: 2015-03-02 15:53:26 by Chuck_Wagon
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Just suppose that I wanted to create a machine that would FYI - I am planning to create this thing on a new Zotac So what I'm basically trying to do is create a 'disk-less' Thanks for any help / insight! ZBOX 1320-U:
boot from a USB flash drive - a relatively big flash drive -
32gb to 64gb - or whatever is required.
And I wanted this thing to boot either Win7 or XP.
Anybody here have any experience with such an experience?
'ZBox' with a Celeron processor and 4GB of memory (which I
have - the memory - not the Zbox).
computer. Shouldn't be fraught with problems - Eh? 
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#84. To: sneakypete, Chuck_Wagon (#68)
It'll probably be a while before I graduate to a quad-cane. But right now, wheels are taboo. I need something that stays firmly planted whereever I place it. I don't need it scooting away from me when I hop.
So why go through all the trouble of trenching ethernet?
We've been through that song and dance before, Willie. petey's gonna do it his way.
My assumption was that most people have a few spools of various gauges of wire on hand. Apparently not. Maybe that's only farmers and serious gardeners. I did look at Amazon. It came up as a 25' conduit and didn't offer me other lengths. Strangely enough, that particular page at Amazon brought my browser to a complete crawl, very rare. Maybe it didn't show me other options for different lengths of conduit. I only saw 25' which made me think you'd have to splice with conduit joiners. Also, using the wire method in 25' segments that I mentioned is much much easier than if you tried to thread wire through a 100' conduit.
Willie,that is exactly like the one I have,and if you will notice,those are brake levers on the handlebars that you can even engage as a "parking brake". Please note the padded "back bar" this one has so you can safely lean back while sitting in the seat,and have access to the brake controls if you are going down a incline while using your feet to get the wheels rolling. I may not need mine very often,but you can rest assured that it is one of the few items I have that is rarely used,but NEVER misplaced. I know exactly where it is at this very moment and don't ever have to spend any time looking for it. To me,the fact that you don't need one right at this moment means that now is the time for you to be looking through Craig's List,Amazon,Ebay,and all the local used item rags to shop around for a used one and save yourself a bundle of money. You might want to also check with any local geezer organizations to see if there are any for sale from the families of members that no longer have any use for them. Check with local DAV chapters,too. The one pictured is like the ones the VA issues. Go ahead and seek out the one like you posted the picture of that has the basket,the seat,and the brakes,though. Don't be temped to buy a cheaper model with fewer features or you will be sorry.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Because my shop has steel walls,and the "office" where I have my tv and desk located is a structure with insulated 2x6 walls. Wi-Fi signals won't penetrate. Wouldn't WiFi be a heckuva lot easier? No. See above. I've seen a variety of wifi signal boosters/repeaters and range extenders available if your reception is currently too poor. My reception out in the shop isn't poor,it's non-existent. A repeater that mounts to the outside wall MAY work,but if you read the reviews,not everybody is happy with them. I don't want to spend 50 bucks or more on a device and then do the work to install it and run inside lines,only to find out it doesn't work for me. I'd rather go ahead and spend 100 bucks or so to run a underground ethernet cable so I know for sure I have a solid connection and I can be done with it and move on to something else. Yeah,I am more than a little anal,and there is little I hate more in life that having to do something more than once. The older I get the less time I have,and the more I hate repeating work. Money comes and goes,but time is the one thing none of us will ever have more of.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Well I admit I came a little late to the party...
True,but if you don't want to buy extra connectors and boxes,you will follow links to see what else is available,and will discover you can also buy it in 100 foot lengths and save money. You can also do like I did and check the web pages of places like Home Depot,Lowe's,etc,etc,etc and see what kind of pricing they have. I got lucky and found it on sale locally in 100 foot lengths for a little over 30 cents a foot. Since I already had to go there to buy plywood and paint,it didn't even cost me any extra to go get it.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Okay... I was about to suggest an outdoor antenna to bring the signal into your shop, but since you've already considered that, there's no sense rehashing the subject. I don't have any first hand experience to make any recommendations anyway. Besides, I prefer the reliability of hardwired connections whenever possible also....
Yeah,there is that to consider. Do it once and be done with it.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Well I'm a still a pretty big guy, so I already know that I need a good sturdy model that will hold-up well for somebody my size & weight. So my other concern would be portability & how easy it would be to fold-up and put in either the trunk or back seat of my car.
I followed the three links you posted. I thought that was enough due diligence. Next time warn me that your three product links are only the departure point for a more extensive shopping quest. I only assumed that those were the products you purchased which is not unreasonable.
It's safe to say we really did beat that horse to death.
And here I was thinking that *I* am anal.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
You posted three links. Obviously, I was foolish to assume those had any connection at all to the products that you actually purchased.
Well my engineering expertise is all industrial/manufacturing, so I'm extemely biased in favor of shielded cable & conduit for anything electrical to begin with. I don't trust electricity and it really makes me cringe whenever I see slipshod residential wiring. LOL!
Well, trenching cable was certainly not pete's first choice. Nor any of the rest of us.
Well then get some waterproof/outdoor connectors and string it up like clothesline. pete can even save on his utility bill and keep his neighbors from whining by actually using it to dry his laundry! Dual-purpose ethernet! (Aren't you sorry you asked? LOL!)
Yeah but some people really want the grounds around their house neat and uncluttered. They have a point. Besides, the PVC clothesline thing is still far more susceptible to damage and might even attract undesired flocks of birds. And enough PVC to make a few of those poles tall enough and pete would have spent enough to pay to bury it. I think pete's neighbors are a mile or more away.
Well then instead of draping it between poles like clothesline, pete can hardpipe it like conduit the full distance... only it'd be 8~10' above ground instead of buried in a trench. Then he could drape some tarps or plastic sheeting over it and stake it out like a tent. That way he could use it like a covered walkway from his house to his shop, sheltered from the wind & rain. If it was clear plastic, he could also use it like a greenhouse for whatever vegetables or exotic orchids he might want to grow.... Hmmm... I wonder if there's some way to incorporate solar panels into this thing so he can generate his own electricity too?
While I don't picture pete as some fussy German neatnik, he doesn't strike me as someone who wants sloppy looking grounds around his house. Depending on his location, weather could play a big role in how reliable a cable suspended in the air would be. High wind areas, areas that get hurricanes or ice storms regularly, those would all argue against aerial suspension and for burying the cable in conduit.
Who said anything about sloppy? Perhaps a little vine-covered walkway would be more aesthetically pleasing: Open on one side, but some kind of trellis/fence for the overhang & other side would provide a windbreak and shade... the crushed stone walkway would help pete spot any snakes that are in his back yard, the conduit would be easily accessible, yet hidden along the overhang, and you could probably also incorporate some decorative outdoor lighting so he could see where he was going at night. If you're gonna do it, do it right or don't do it at all!
That's a lot of work to avoid a little 6" trenching.
It can be as simple or as elaborate as he wants to make it... there's no rush... just plan ahead and work toward the end goal at whatever pace he wants.
Which are all prime reasons why I dismissed the idea of a overhead line immediately. Along with the fact that even an overhead line would require digging to settle the posts in the ground,and then I would have to cut around the posts with a weedwhacker,and take care to make sure I didn't take the line down with my front end loader when moving stuff around in the yard. Bury it,cover it with gravel,and forget it.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Yes,it would. Especially to wasps who like to build their nests up high,as well as birds. Not to mention the snakes that climb up high to look for bird eggs. Summer before last I had a big snake fall off my tv antenna pole directly in front of me as I was walking to the house. Evidentially he had climbed the pole to look for bird eggs in the gutters,and was coming down as I was passing by,and he started paying more attention to me than he did to holding on to the pole. Maybe you are not aware of it,but snakes are pretty damn good at climbing. It's not at all unusual to find them wintering in attics in areas prone to having snakes. Do YOU want to walk under a heavily leafed area that you can't see through that might have a snake or two up there moving around,and possibly falling on your head? I am already considering a covered walkway,but it's definitely not in the budget this year. Truth to tell,I doubt it will ever get out of the "considering" category. Too much money for too small a return,plus it would block off an access point to my back yard for my front end loader.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
It might be cheaper and easier to move into the shop and bulldoze the house.
You are right. Especially since I have to remodel the entire house on the inside. I did the outside with all new siding and triple pane insulated gas-filled windows and a complete new roof a couple of years ago. Have one bathroom mostly done,and need to start on the other one. Not doing any of that until I get some spray-in insulation installed in the shop,and get my 31 Plymouth coupe on the road,though. IF nothing else goes wrong,I should be driving and enjoying it by the end of April.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Is that the spray on foam that hardens when it dries? I thought that was some expensive stuff. We had that insulation on and in our Quonset hut quarters in the Republic of Korea in the mid-80s. As I was departing they had plans to install Super Hooches which were modern facilities.
I'd kinda wondered if your wireless problems might be connected to this kind of problem. Or some gadget on the home place interfering. Lots of wireless devices made in the last decade occupy that 2.4Ghz band. Wireless house phones are well-known culprits that can degrade wireless speeds and some other wireless consumer devices intrude on this bandwidth and sometimes degrade it noticably. I had a wireless 2.4Ghz house phone I really liked, a Siemens. But I did eventually notice that large downloads would slow to an absolute crawl on my wireless laptop if I talked on that phone while doing a download at high speed. The phone being active very obviously interfered with the bandwidth the router could deliver wirelessly. With the newer 5Ghz wireless routers, you have better range but more problems penetrating walls and glass. Wireless is great to have in many, but not all, situations. Just a thought: a 100Mbps network connection should handle most any 720p video stream, even though trying to fast-forward or rewind a streaming movie could lag just a bit. For 1080p and up, you'll likely need a Gigabit router. However, unless you have a DSL or cable modem that has more than 100Mbps networking, it won't help you with Netflix or the others. So no need to do any upgrading to Gigabit routers/switches unless your entire bandwidth pipe is adequate. Lots of cablemodems and DSL modems are still 100Mbps so don't bother to upgrade unless you check and know you'll get better streaming performance. Probably you've read a bit about this on the Roku forums if you hang out over there. I did see an interesting bit that might excite the Roku crowd over at Slashdot. NVIDIA Announces SHIELD Game Console It's a way for Android (Google) to penetrate the living room better. And Nvidia (along with Asus and others) have tried to carve out a market share in the living room for some time. The fact that it can run Crysis 3 in 4K resolutions at 30fps is staggering. Apparently, this little wonder will cost $200 and comes with a decent wireless game controller. I'm thinking this is Google and Nvidia taking aim at Sony's PS3 and Microsoft's X-Box markets in a fairly serious way. It makes a lot of sense if you already are into Android cellphones. No doubt, it will allow you to use Android cellphones and tablets as remote controls or streaming clients. It can play and capture 4K video with full GPU encoding support, meaning it comes ready for hardware-based support for video telephone apps like Skype. Just add a webcam and mic for 4K video telephone. Only a couple of years ago, such computer horsepower would cost $2000 and up, workstation stuff. Now it's available for 1/10 the cost. And tiny. And only sips electricity instead of making your power meter spin faster since workstations and very high-powered gaming rigs can easily add $20-$40 a month to your power bills. More, even, if you use them constantly for rendering or encoding or similar uses.
Hmmm... well then we'll nix the trellis & vines, and go back to using solar panels for the roof to boost your return on investment. And then we can enclose both sides of the walkway with screening to keep the birds/snakes and other critters out. You'll still have to spray to control the wasps, spiders, ants, cucarachas and whatever other undesirable creepy-crawlies you got in your neck of the woods. And then you can also put in a couple extra wide screen doors like this: That ought to give you plenty room to drive a little bobcat into your backyard.
Is that the spray on foam that hardens when it dries? I thought that was some expensive stuff. I am hoping I can get a insulation company to buy the "blanket roll" insulation that is 4 feet wide and comes in really long rolls. This stuff is quick and simple to put up because they just unroll it and as it unrolls they use plastic "buttons" on the bolts that hold the building together to hold the insulation to the roof. If I can't manage that,the only other option is to use the expensive spray in stuff you mentioned. The good news about that stuff is it sprays directly on and sticks right away,so the labor bill is much cheaper. Which may be why insulation companies don't like using it. It's not such a big deal in the summertime to keep the uninsulated shop cool,but it's a gold-plated bitch to keep it warm in the winter after the sun goes down. The sun radiates heat,and the 250k propane furnace puts out plenty of heat to radiate to all the cars and tools in there to help keep it warm during the day,but at night the building walls and roof don't do anything but bleed heat away. Of course they do the same thing on cloudy or rainy days,too. Still,you can only do one thing at a time unless you win the lottery,so I decided to spring for the furnace and getting it installed first.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I think I read that Roku recommends a minimum 3.0 Mbps for 1080p HD steaming, so I doubt if any hardware on your home network would be a bottleneck. All the traffic bottlenecks are upstream... The ISPs like Comcast & AT&T have to upgrade their infrastructure to provide more bandwidth. Internationally, the USA is only #11 in List of countries by Internet connection speeds. And no doubt some regions of our country are a lot crappier than others.
Not a problem. I only use a cell phone. I have a wall phone that is 2.4 ghz,but never use it or even answer it. It's the number I give those places you are required to have a phone number to register,so I give them the dead land line number. At one time I had a old rotary phone plugged into it. As for most of the other stuff you wrote,you might as well have been writing in Greek for all I understood.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Willie,my "little Bobcat" is a 58 hp 9800 lb Ford diesel with a 7 foot bucket that will lift 3500 lbs 10 feet off the ground. I use it to strip cars and to move and load heavy car parts around,like engines and transmissions,but I have used it to pick up an entire car body and chassis and set it on my trailer. I can use this thing to stand a car right up on it's rear bumper so I can walk under it to unbolt engines and transmissions. No more crawling around under cars on the wet ground. If things go according to plans I will no longer need it in another 2 years or so,and then I can sell it and just go back to using my little tractor (1957 Ford 640 w/4 cyl gasoline engine) for pulling stuff around in the yard and bush-hogging. It only weighs about 2400 lbs.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
These comparisons are often very unfair. Europe ranks higher overall because they went for very high wireless internet speeds in metro areas but vast swaths of Europe are surprisingly low-tech. Some of the Asian countries that look so good on rankings have 95% of their population in a handful of metro enclaves. A big difference between, say, Taiwan or Korea and a continental market like America. And the EUros have actually admitted their shortsighted develop and reliance on wireless and started to do more to emulate the American broadband model. Despite being considered leaders for years, they have had to grapple like everyone else with the problems of more uniform distribution over large areas. Of course, broadband service is a local thing, as you mention.
That's a little bit bigger than I anticipated.
In short, Google/Nvidia are launching a platform based on their cellphones and Google Play Store and all its apps that can play games as well or better than the latest consoles for less than half the price. A device more powerful than the majority of desktop computers in the $800-$1000 range. And all integrated with Google's services and apps, like Google Drive and the Chrome browser (imagine your web pages on a huge screen in 4k resolutions, not 480p or 720p or 1080p but in 2160p resolution). Current streamer boxes like Roku and AppleTV and others kinda stagger on 1080p. This thing plays and even records 2160p video. Roku has hung on by offering strong value and good design. This kind of box can outflank it easily and take on both Amazon and Apple directly. As you mention, one of the problems is having an ISP with the bandwidth to play super-HD 2160p video on it.
Oddly enough,that is just what I was thinking.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I mentioned that? I'll be damned! Did I say anything else that sounded informed?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I have one wheels,a seat,and a basket,and
But I can see where something like this would be mighty helpful while I build up both my endurance and confidence in using a prosthetic leg.
#85. To: sneakypete (#76)
I grew up poor and had to work hard. Now I prefer to work smart.
Wouldn't WiFi be a heckuva lot easier?
I've never had use for them myself, but I've seen a variety of wifi signal boosters/repeaters and range extenders available if your reception is currently too poor.
#86. To: Willie Green (#85)
So why go through all the trouble of trenching ethernet?
Wouldn't WiFi be a heckuva lot easier?
#87. To: sneakypete (#83)
I guess I could if I wanted to spend more than the 40 bucks the Klein fish tape cost me to buy the fence wire,then do more work to straighten it out and lay out 100 feet of it to run through the conduit.
You didn't look at the conduit link,did you? It's flexible plastic conduit that bends,is waterproof,and comes in 25 feet to 100 feet lengths.
#88. To: Willie Green, Chuck Wagon (#84)
But I can see where something like this would be mighty helpful while I build up both my endurance and confidence in using a prosthetic leg.
#89. To: Willie Green (#85)
(Edited)
So why go through all the trouble of trenching ethernet?
#90. To: Fred Mertz (#86)
We've been through that song and dance before, Willie.
petey's gonna do it his way.
I tried tracing back through the conversation to catch up, but I guess I didn't go back far enough.
#91. To: TooConservative (#87)
I did look at Amazon. It came up as a 25' conduit and didn't offer me other lengths.
#92. To: sneakypete (#89)
A repeater that mounts to the outside wall MAY work,but if you read the reviews,not everybody is happy with them.
#93. To: Willie Green (#92)
Besides, I prefer the reliability of hardwired connections whenever possible also....
#94. To: sneakypete (#88)
Don't be temped to buy a cheaper model with fewer features or you will be sorry.
I'm not overly concerned about the cost... Insurance paid for my current wheelchair... so I assume it'll help pay for this newer contraption.... But I'll have to look into that to make sure... the prosthetic leg itself is quite expensive, so they might not want to pay for anything fancier than a plain walker or set of crutches, which I already have.
#95. To: sneakypete (#91)
True,but if you don't want to buy extra connectors and boxes,you will follow links
#96. To: Willie Green (#92)
Okay... I was about to suggest an outdoor antenna to bring the signal into your shop
#97. To: TooConservative (#95)
I followed the three links you posted. I thought that was enough due diligence. Next time warn me that your three product links are only the departure point for a more extensive shopping quest. I only assumed that those were the products you purchased which is not unreasonable.
#98. To: sneakypete (#97)
#99. To: TooConservative (#96)
It's safe to say we really did beat that horse to death.
So although I think the wifi would be easier, I also agree with his reasoning for digging the trench.
#100. To: Willie Green (#99)
#101. To: TooConservative (#100)
Well, trenching cable was certainly not pete's first choice. Nor any of the rest of us.
You can even use some surplus PVC plumbing to help prop it up along the way:
Plus it's easier than digging a trench!
#102. To: Willie Green (#101)
Well then get some waterproof/outdoor connectors and string it up like clothesline.
#103. To: TooConservative (#102)
Besides, the PVC clothesline thing is still far more susceptible to damage and might even attract undesired flocks of birds.
#104. To: Willie Green (#103)
Well then instead of draping it between poles like clothesline, pete can hardpipe it like conduit the full distance... only it'd be 8~10' above ground instead of buried in a trench. Then he could drape some tarps or plastic sheeting over it and stake it out like a tent. That way he could use it like a covered walkway from his house to his shop, sheltered from the wind & rain. If it was clear plastic, he could also use it like a greenhouse for whatever vegetables or exotic orchids he might want to grow....
#105. To: TooConservative, sneakypete (#104)
While I don't picture pete as some fussy German neatnik, he doesn't strike me as someone who wants sloppy looking grounds around his house.
#106. To: Willie Green (#105)
#107. To: TooConservative (#106)
#108. To: TooConservative (#104)
Depending on his location, weather could play a big role in how reliable a cable suspended in the air would be. High wind areas, areas that get hurricanes or ice storms regularly, those would all argue against aerial suspension and for burying the cable in conduit.
#109. To: Willie Green (#105)
Perhaps a little vine-covered walkway would be more aesthetically pleasing:
#110. To: sneakypete (#109)
I am already considering a covered walkway,but it's definitely not in the budget this year.
#111. To: TooConservative (#110)
It might be cheaper and easier to move into the shop and bulldoze the house.
#112. To: sneakypete (#111)
Not doing any of that until I get some spray-in insulation installed in the shop...
#113. To: sneakypete, Willie Green (#111)
I did the outside with all new siding and triple pane insulated gas-filled windows and a complete new roof a couple of years ago.
A 4K AndroidTV box with some of the top heavyweight console games ready to play in 4K. Run the same game on your cellphone or your Shield box, pay only once to buy it on Google Play Store. All your cellphone's Android apps instantly available on your TV. NVIDIA held an event in San Francisco last night at GDC, where the company unveiled a new Android TV streamer, game console, and supercomputer, as NVIDIA's Jen Hsun Huang calls it, all wrapped up in a single, ultra-slim device called NVIDIA SHIELD. The SHIELD console is powered by the NVIDIA Tegra X1 SoC with 3GB of RAM, 16GB of storage, Gig-E and 802.11ac 2x2 MIMO WiFi. It's also 4K Ultra-HD Ready with 4K playback and capture up to 60 fps (VP9, H265, H264) with encode/decode with full hardware processing. The company claims the console provides twice the performance of an Xbox 360. NVIDIA demo'ed the device with Android TV, streaming music and HD movies and browsing social media. The device can stream games from a GeForce powered PC to your television or from NVIDIA's GRID cloud gaming service, just like previous NVIDIA SHIELD devices. Native Android games will also run on the SHIELD console. NVIDIA's plan is to offer a wide array of native Android titles in the SHIELD store, as well as leverage the company's relationships with game developers to bring top titles to GRID. The device was shown playing Gearbox's Borderlands The Pre-Sequel, Doom 3 BFG Edition, Metal Gear Solid V, the Unreal Engine 4 Infiltrator demo and yes, even Crysis 3.
#114. To: sneakypete (#109)
Yes,it would. Especially to wasps who like to build their nests up high,as well as birds.
Not to mention the snakes that climb up high to look for bird eggs.
Too much money for too small a return,plus it would block off an access point to my back yard for my front end loader. 
#115. To: Fred Mertz (#112)
Not doing any of that until I get some spray-in insulation installed in the shop...
#116. To: TooConservative (#113)
Probably you've read a bit about this on the Roku forums if you hang out over there
#117. To: TooConservative (#113)
I had a wireless 2.4Ghz house phone I really liked, a Siemens. But I did eventually notice that large downloads would slow to an absolute crawl on my wireless laptop if I talked on that phone while doing a download at high speed. The phone being active very obviously interfered with the bandwidth the router could deliver wirelessly.
#118. To: Willie Green (#114)
(Edited)
That ought to give you plenty room to drive a little bobcat into your backyard.
#119. To: Willie Green (#116)
Internationally, the USA is only #11 in List of countries by Internet connection speeds. And no doubt some regions of our country are a lot crappier than others.
#120. To: sneakypete (#118)
I've run out of ideas.
Maybe you ought to just bury your ethernet, cover it with gravel and forget about it.
#121. To: sneakypete (#117)
As for most of the other stuff you wrote,you might as well have been writing in Greek for all I understood.
#122. To: Willie Green (#120)
Maybe you ought to just bury your ethernet, cover it with gravel and forget about it.
#123. To: TooConservative (#121)
As you mention, one of the problems is having an ISP with the bandwidth to play super-HD 2160p video on it.
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