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Title: Obama Threatened to Shoot Down Israeli Jets Attacking Iran
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URL Source: http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ob ... eli-jets/2015/03/01/id/627575/
Published: Mar 1, 2015
Author: g richter
Post Date: 2015-03-01 20:24:06 by out damned spot
Keywords: Obama, Iran, Israel
Views: 21856
Comments: 102
President Barack Obama threatened to shoot down Israeli planes in 2014 if they were sent to bomb Iranian nuclear facilities, according to reports attributed to a Kuwaiti newspaper. According to the website Israel National News, the Bethlehem-based news agency Ma'an cites Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Jarida. Al-Jarida reports that the alleged threat from the White House forced Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to cancel the planned attack. President Barack Obama threatened to shoot down Israeli planes in 2014 if they were sent to bomb Iranian nuclear facilities, according to reports attributed to a Kuwaiti newspaper. According to the website Israel National News, the Bethlehem-based news agency Ma'an cites Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Jarida. Al-Jarida reports that the alleged threat from the White House forced Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to cancel the planned attack. An Israeli minister on good relations with the Obama administration reportedly tipped Secretary of State John Kerry to the plan and that Obama vowed to shoot down the planes when they crossed over U.S.-controlled airspace in Iraq. Al-Jarida quoted "well-placed" sources saying that Netanyahu, Minister of Defense Moshe Ya'alon and then-Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman made the plans for airstrikes after consulting top commanders. In addition to the attacks, Netanyahu and his ministers decided to try to thwart any nuclear deal between the United States and Iran over fears that a nuclear Iran is a threat to Israel's existence, the newspaper said. Israeli pilots reportedly trained for weeks on the mission and even were able to fly into Iranian airspace without being detected by radar. Israel's fears of nuclear attack are not new. In 2007, an Israeli airstrike took out a suspected nuclear site in Syria. A 1981 airstrike took out a suspected nuclear reactor in Iraq. Israel National News quoted a Daily Beast interview from 2009 in which former President Jimmy Carter's national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski urged Obama to take on any threat to Iran from Israel. "They have to fly over our airspace in Iraq. Are we just going to sit there and watch?" Brzezinski said. "We have to be serious about denying them that right. That means a denial where you aren’t just saying it. If they fly over, you go up and confront them. They have the choice of turning back or not." Brzezinski even suggested, "No one wishes for this but it could be a Liberty in reverse." That was an allusion to an incident in the 1967 Six Day War in which Israeli jets and torpedo boats attacked the USS Liberty in international waters. Israel later called the attack an incident of "friendly fire." Netanyahu is set to address a joint session of Congress on Tuesday over the Iranian nuclear threat. Most Democrats have said they will not attend and Obama has said he will not meet with the prime minister since the talk will occur two weeks from Israeli elections.
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#1. To: out damned spot (#0)
That would be a reasonable assumption.
A nuclear Iran would be a check on Sunni Muslims also. And that is also good.
For how long? How long do you think it would take Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, etc. to acquire nukes of their own (if they already do not have them) once Iran gets one?
The Arabs already have nukes, Pakistan is storing them for them.
It is not too much of a stretch to think that the nukes have already been distributed given the extreme distrust within the region even among so-called tribal brethren.
It is not too much of a stretch to think that the nukes have already been distributed given the extreme distrust within the region even among so-called tribal brethren. So it makes perfect sense for Iran to defend itself with nukes against the Sunni Muslims and the Zionist Israelis and the Americans - just ask Qaddafi what giving up WMD did for him....
If you say so, Sparky. The last I checked no-one in the Mideast is threatening to wipe Iran off the map a la Iran's stated goal for Israel.
The propaganda that Iran or Ahmedinejad threatened "to wipe Iran off the map" has been thoroughly debunked. http://www.counterpunch.org/tilley08282006.html Is Iran's President Really a Jew-hating, Holocaust-denying Islamo-fascist who has threatened to "wipe Israel off the map"? Putting Words in Ahmadinejad's Mouth By VIRGINIA TILLEY Johannesburg, South Africa In this frightening mess in the Middle East, let's get one thing straight. Iran is not threatening Israel with destruction. Iran's president has not threatened any action against Israel. Over and over, we hear that Iran is clearly "committed to annihilating Israel" because the "mad" or "reckless" or "hard-line" President Ahmadinejad has repeatedly threatened to destroy Israel But every supposed quote, every supposed instance of his doing so, is wrong. The most infamous quote, "Israel must be wiped off the map", is the most glaringly wrong. In his October 2005 speech, Mr. Ahmadinejad never used the word "map" or the term "wiped off". According to Farsi-language experts like Juan Cole and even right-wing services like MEMRI, what he actually said was "this regime that is occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time." What did he mean? In this speech to an annual anti-Zionist conference, Mr. Ahmadinejad was being prophetic, not threatening. He was citing Imam Khomeini, who said this line in the 1980s (a period when Israel was actually selling arms to Iran, so apparently it was not viewed as so ghastly then). Mr. Ahmadinejad had just reminded his audience that the Shah's regime, the Soviet Union, and Saddam Hussein had all seemed enormously powerful and immovable, yet the first two had vanished almost beyond recall and the third now languished in prison. So, too, the "occupying regime" in Jerusalem would someday be gone. His message was, in essence, "This too shall pass." [snip] http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2006/jun/14/post155 Jonathan Steele By Robert Mackey http://fair.org/extra-online-articles/lost-in-translation/ Iran never threatened to wipe Israel off the map By Steve Rendall Posted by Glenn Kessler
That is true, he never used those exact words. I gather you do not believe that with just a little bit of reading between the lines of him and others that Iran does not have that intent?
That is true, he never used those exact words. I gather you do not believe that with just a little bit of reading between the lines of him and others that Iran does not have that intent? Iran has not started any offensive wars in living or historical memory - despite claims Iran is looking to initiate the end times by crazed American end-timers. How many wars has the USA initiated since the fall of their puppet Shah? And I am a Shah supporter - I am anti-Islamist Iran but Islamist Shia Iran is better than Sunni Saudi Arabia is for women and Christians (and surprisingly Jews) with those minorities given seats in the Iranian parliament. As bad as the embassy hostage taking was by Iranian radicals - it fell short in comparison to what Saudi jihadis did on 9/11. I find Iran acts in a rational manner despite neocon foaming at the mouth about how Iran is ruled by a jihad suicide cult.
You're a fool. The Hezbollah war a few years ago when Israel had to send them back to the stone age. Iran proxies.
The Hezbollah war a few years ago when Israel had to send them back to the stone age. Iran proxies. That is a stretch, stretch. And let us say that that is so - what Hezbollah did was a minor action (a military raid) that Israel decided meant war. Hezbollah stated they did not expect a war over that raid. Again, it shows Iran is more reserved in such engagements.
Hezbollah is actually stronger than ever. Their missile inventory is now more advanced and much larger than ever. It is widely estimated that they have at least 30,000 missiles in stock and it is likely they have up to 45,000. All of them pointed toward Israel. A lot of these are small dumb missiles but many of them are much more sophisticated. Obviously, they can use the small missiles to shield their main missiles from Israel's anti-missile defenses. And Hezbollah felt strong enough to send militia units to reinforce Assad. Not exactly hiding in a stone age.
More like "almost all". Here are some Hezbollah jihadists launching one:
That's mostly true - the missiles launched back then were upgraded bottle rockets for the most part - more an annoyance than a threat - though I am sure the Hezies now may have deadlier stock.
#79. To: Pericles (#77)
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest" a nuclear Iran is a threat to Israel's existence "
#2. To: Stoner, out damned spot (#1)
#7. To: Pericles, out damned spot, All (#2)
A nuclear Iran would be a check on Sunni Muslims also. And that is also good.
#11. To: SOSO (#7)
For how long? How long do you think it would take Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, etc. to acquire nukes of their own (if they already do not have them) once Iran gets one?
#12. To: Pericles (#11)
The Arabs already have nukes, Pakistan is storing them for them.
#13. To: SOSO (#12)
The Arabs already have nukes, Pakistan is storing them for them.
#14. To: Pericles (#13)
So it makes perfect sense for Iran to defend itself with nukes against the Sunni Muslims and the Zionist Israelis and the Americans -
#53. To: SOSO, Pericles (#14)
If you say so, Sparky. The last I checked no-one in the Mideast is threatening to wipe Iran off the map a la Iran's stated goal for Israel.
August 28, 2006
Lost in translation
The Guardian (UK)
14 June 2006 07.49 EDT Israeli Minister Agrees Ahmadinejad Never Said Israel ‘Must Be Wiped Off the Map’
April 17, 2012 7:11 pm
New York TimesLost in Translation
FAIR (Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting)
June 1, 2012 Did Ahmadinejad really say Israel should be ‘wiped off the map’?
Washington Post
at 06:00 AM ET, 10/05/2011
#55. To: nolu chan, Pericles (#53)
The propaganda that Iran or Ahmedinejad threatened "to wipe Iran off the map" has been thoroughly debunked.
#64. To: SOSO, nolu chan, TooConservative, misterwhite, A Pole (#55)
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The propaganda that Iran or Ahmedinejad threatened "to wipe Iran off the map" has been thoroughly debunked.
#69. To: Pericles (#64)
Iran has not started any offensive wars in living or historical memory
#70. To: A K A Stone (#69)
You're a fool.
#71. To: Pericles, A K A Stone (#70)
The Hezbollah war a few years ago when Israel had to send them back to the stone age.
#76. To: TooConservative (#71)
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"It is widely estimated that they have at least 30,000 missiles in stock ... A lot of these are small dumb missiles ..."
#77. To: misterwhite, TooConservative (#76)
Replies to Comment # 77. the missiles launched back then were upgraded bottle rockets
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